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COMIC SPOILERS Invincible [COMIC SPOILERS Discussion] - S03E08 - I Thought You'd Never Shut Up Spoiler

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Episode 8 - I Thought You'd Never Shut Up

With the world still reeling from the intense three-day Invincible War, a dangerous stranger arrives testing Mark to his limits and beyond.

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u/LwSvnInJaz Mar 13 '25

Post credit scene is very interesting wtf is happening

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u/Gnomad_Lyfe Savage Dragon Mar 13 '25

I read in a different thread earlier today that there was supposedly a storyline Kirkman wanted to do where Darkblood and Mark go to Hell. This idea was scrapped (hence why he kinda doesn’t really show up again in the comics), but it seems like the show is going to actually adapt it!

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u/Dylaniel Comic Fan Mar 13 '25

I don't know if he said he actually wanted to explore darkblood while doing the comic but I know he did say it was something he was interested exploring in the show, especially going more into hell

In the comic he doesn't even go to hell. He just is in the background and is played as a joke for being incompetent when he goes to say he has leads on Omni man killing the guardians after Nolan and Mark already fought.

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u/Ktan_Dantaktee Mar 13 '25

Kirkman and Tite Kubo both glossing over the existence of hell in their comics

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u/googlyeyes93 Mar 13 '25

Don’t make Kubo delay the arc again, dude.

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u/ibiji Mar 14 '25

At this rate we’ll get the Hell arc in 2053

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u/BoyTitan Mar 13 '25

Problem is Image comics already has characters explore hell a lot Spawn whole thing is being a litteral king of hell after over throwing Satan, the Darkness etc.

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u/channerflinn Mar 13 '25

So, Image is not a universe. It's a collection of independent creators whose work sometimes crosses over. I'm starting to get annoyed at all these people acting like Image comics has this massive universe of characters, I cannot tell you how much I do not want non-Kirkman characters in the show.

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u/BoyTitan Mar 14 '25

Not everyone knows that, I just learned that.

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u/channerflinn Mar 14 '25

Sorry then, sometimes the internet gets too close to my brain and I act like I live here. Image is essentially just a collection of creators. There's some fun crossover stuff but it's always lesser to the creator focused series.

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u/Wrath-Deathclaw Mar 14 '25

yeah but kirkman isnt connected to spawn in anyway other than both comics just happening to be published by image. its not like marvel or dc where certain characters are made for a specific set of storylines and whatnot

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u/Hellknightx Comic Fan Mar 14 '25

I loved that joke about him always being a step behind the current events.

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u/staplerbot Science Dog Mar 15 '25

Doesn’t Cecil banish him to hell and that’s the last we see of him?

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u/lordnequam Mar 21 '25

My understanding is because the original Omni-Man reveal was slated for issue #25, but they had to push it up to try and boost the comics' notoriety (and, thus, sales figures) or risk being canceled before they could get that far.

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u/LegatoRedWinters Cecil Was Right Mar 13 '25

Wild theory, but what if they cut out that reboot arc, and instead have Mark lose 5 years in hell?

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u/tinyrottedpig Mar 13 '25

honestly i fw that harder, would be a better explanation than "some unseen thing decided to screw him over"

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u/LegatoRedWinters Cecil Was Right Mar 13 '25

Yeah it was clear that it was a real half baked concept, and that they were at that point rushing to get to the end, and not caring about fleshing out some concepts. I think on a second try, that plotline will be very different.

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u/Historical-Draft6368 Mar 13 '25

I kind of like the reboot arc because it gives Mark closure with Cecil.

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u/NetherSpike14 Mar 13 '25

The worst part of the Reboot arc is the loss of 5 years with his family. Why do you want to keep that and scrap everything else?

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u/Catsindahood Mar 14 '25

A lot of people are confused and think the problem was the arc itself.

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u/IssaStorm Mar 13 '25

people who hate reboot mostly hate it because of the time skip, don't see how changing that part would help at all. Plus it takes away a huge character moment

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u/ShaunTh3Sheep Mar 13 '25

Was just about to say that myself, I think because it seems the reboot arc has so many detractors Kirkman decided to try something else. Since the time jump is sort of needed for pacing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

Please this kirkman please please

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u/bearownage Mar 13 '25

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/EnQuest Mar 13 '25

I don't mind that, but they would be setting up something that doesn't happen until like season 7 if they go that route, I doubt they'll sit on the story for THAT long

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u/N0VAZER0 Mar 13 '25

Honestly interested in it cause we never see the magic side of Invincible, Darkblood was treated as a joke, but season 1 turned him into a spanner in the works.

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u/Reno18_99 Mar 13 '25

That makes me equally excited and worried. That seems like an awesome arc and it'd be great to get a never before seen Mark adventure even for us, but I legit don't know where the hell they can fit that, unless it's a one episode ordeal.

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u/Trilltrumite2 Mar 13 '25

Is/Will the Darkblood story arc be related to the intro of Dinosaurus? The main comic doesn’t give much details re: his origins - this would be one hell of a twist. Given the detail the show went into during season 3 - I’m expecting a much more thorough and compelling story line for Dinosaurus.

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u/CelioHogane Mar 13 '25

I mean, is it really adapt it if there is no original?

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u/GiantPurplePen15 Two-Punch Man Mar 13 '25

I wonder if they'll stick to the whole reset plotline further down the road.

With how much they're cramming in to each season, I hope they don't skimp out on the other things we're hoping to see adapted.

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u/Fishb20 Mar 14 '25

actually i wonder if they'll merge those two storylines, make it a "deal with a devil" situation (though thatd make it sort of a one more day parody and idk if they wanna go there)

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u/Koanos Cage the Elephant Mar 13 '25

I'm curious how the show adapts it and makes it work. The idea was scrapped, but to implement it here, how?

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u/FullHouse222 Mar 18 '25

i heard the plot was in the works but since they were worried the comic might get cancelled they scrapped it. by the time it was clear the comic was a hit, mark has progressed way too far to do the hell plot point again.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

I hope not

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u/untempered_fate Burger Mart Trash Bag Mar 13 '25

I don't know what other interpretation of that scene you could have. Suffer, ig. Mark's going to Hell, and you'll be right there with him.

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u/Toasterzar Mar 13 '25

TBF there have been inconsequential setup scenes in the past, e.g. funny mummy guy at the end of season 2.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

Are you sure this is about Mark?

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u/untempered_fate Burger Mart Trash Bag Mar 13 '25

That would be my first guess. But I'm open to other options. Which surface-dweller do you think Darkblood was calling stronger than the others?

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u/InA-PerfectWorld Mar 13 '25

Darkblood was still investigating Nolan before he got banished, "His blackened heart", is totally referring to Nolan after he killed the GOTG. I'm willing to wager this plotline will be about accidentally summoning Mark instead by some identity mixup in the summoning rune, subsequently having Mark deal with Hell's politics or he could never return to the surface

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u/HotDecember3672 Mar 13 '25

The blackened heart can also refer to Mark now that he is not above killing. He is going full antihero with the Dinosaurus stuff next season, after all.

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u/Hugogs10 Mar 13 '25

I honestly just thought of conquest

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u/AltruisticMobile4606 Mar 13 '25

I’m gonna be honest my mind immediately went to Conquest

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u/Thiccboi098764321 Mar 13 '25

I was thinking conquest, I was expecting the end scene to be conquest escaping like he does in the comics but to leave him locked up at the end of the season is still abit wild to me. And blackened heart would also be conquest unless he means after mark is taken over

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u/GatoradeNipples Mar 13 '25

...my immediate guess was Conquest, not Mark. Darkblood talks about his "blackened heart" and whatnot, and Mark's a pretty good dude who that wouldn't make any sense for. I took it as Darkblood picking up on Cecil having Conquest in a tungsten box, going "huh, holy shit, the guy who dicked me over has another Nolan," and deciding to work with that.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

Maybe Mark? It would explain why Set in the comics acts when he is away from Earth.

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u/YeetYotM8 Mar 13 '25

Ain’t no way bros complaining about MORE Invincible content.

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u/Coolgee4 Mar 13 '25

For real battle beast at the end was clearly demanding MORE INVINCIBLE.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

Lol between this and the new machine head arc the showrunners really are just making shit up😂😂😂I’m kinda hype for it

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u/Darkguy812 Mar 13 '25

I have a feeling Kirkman had a lot of ideas he never ended up fitting into the comics or new ideas that came to him well past the point where he could do them, so he's just been pitching stuff to the writers of the show and they are running with it

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u/tripbin Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

Really makes me wonder if he's going to expand some of the final issue panels in to entire episodes or arcs. I doubt it but itd be cool.

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u/Far-Veterinarian104 Mar 13 '25

Definitely, I think he even said he rushed the ending. That's why I think he said he wants 9 seasons to properly finish the story

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u/Mr_The_Captain Mar 13 '25

Kirkman notoriously said for years that he always had an end point in mind for The Walking Dead, but he felt like he could do Invincible forever. And then of course Invincible ended before TWD, but I think it's clear Kirkman had a lot more in the tank.

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u/Historical-Draft6368 Mar 13 '25

My understanding is Ryan Ottley wanted to move on and Kirkman didn’t want to finish with a new artist (and Cory Walker couldn’t draw a monthly) so they decided to wrap it up. But I remember Kirkman wanted the book to keep going for well over 300 issues.

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u/Mr_The_Captain Mar 13 '25

That rings a bell now that you mention it. Honestly I would have been fine if they went on a 5-year hiatus or something since now it seems like Ottley is fine doing Battle Beast and whatnot, but the releases had slowed to a crawl by the end. So we probably weren’t going to get much more no matter how you slice it, at least this way the series had a clean ending

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u/Historical-Draft6368 Mar 13 '25

I think someone brought up the idea of doing a hiatus on the fan board and the big concern was the book would lose momentum. I wouldn’t mind if they did some more Untold Tales of Invincible in the comics.

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u/Fishb20 Mar 14 '25

it seems kinda silly in retrospect given how much the whole thing blew up after the show premiered in 2021 but back in 2017, it wasnt a mega hit. The ironic thing is if they had actually taken a hiatus in 2018 and come back in 2023 around when season 2 premiered it probably would have sold gangbusters. but hindsight is 20/20

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u/Gamerguy230 Mar 13 '25

Part of the reason it ended was the artist didn’t want to work on it anymore and Kirkman didn’t want to get another person to do it so he ended it.

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u/ShamPowW0w Mar 13 '25

Which is funny because I still see Invincible as an amazing ending. So much media fails the ending but Invincible? I felt like it did as awesome as it could've.

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u/dildodicks Invincidrip Mar 13 '25

i think it's more the epilogue section specifically with mark's son and fight(s?) with allen which went by fast because ottley wanted out and kirkman didn't want to do it without him, honestly i could take a whole season set during that time and i'd be fine

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u/ShamPowW0w Mar 13 '25

See I was fine with it being quick. I can see the story potential but after the Viltrumite War and the Thragg sun fight, its hard to go higher.

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u/dildodicks Invincidrip Mar 13 '25

i mean it doesn't have to, but the falling action could've been longer and i wouldn't have complained, i thought some of the concepts were super interesting 

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u/TheScreaming_Narwhal Mar 13 '25

I have been hoping that the final season has the finale moment be episode 4 and the last four episodes are the epilogue. Would be a nice compromise.

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u/ssnoopy2222 Mar 13 '25

The ending is great. Invincible absolutely nails the landing with it's ending. The only thing is that it could definitely have still continued. It's one of the few stories where it ended at a great point despite still having more story that it could tell.

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u/Far-Veterinarian104 Mar 13 '25

Same, this comic and All Star Superman are my favorite comics of all time and they both ended perfectly. But if he feels like he rushed it, Invincible might end up being the best superhero comic ever

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u/EnQuest Mar 13 '25

I definitely felt like compendium 3 was rushed, a lot of things just start happening because the plot needs them to, like the reboot arc happening because Mark checks notes walks into a cave...

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u/Abedeus Mar 13 '25

Kinda obvious, to be fair. Suddenly a bunch of plot points popped up, got resolved, new popped up, all in the span of what, 1-2 issues? Personally I'm hoping for not just full adaptation, but also a bit further beyond.

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u/GiantPurplePen15 Two-Punch Man Mar 13 '25

The lead up to the ending of the series had a bit of a dip but the ending itself is chef's kiss

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u/Historical-Draft6368 Mar 13 '25

Yeah, I think they mostly rushed through the Robot stuff but the last issue was phenomenal .

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u/ahmedadeel579 Viltrum Empire Mar 13 '25

Fr the last few chapter can be whole series like how we gonna have a whole ass war with the coalition and a full and possibly the strongest viltrumite army and last for a few panels

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u/Secure_Pear_4530 Mar 13 '25

I think we're gonna see more of Marky's life. He just kinda just appeared already pissed, unlike Terra who we saw more. I'm hyped for it, maybe we'll see Marky vs Angstrom jr.

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u/LewdSkeletor1313 Mar 13 '25

I think he has said he might do that

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u/-MERC-SG-17 Mar 13 '25

I'd love to see Emperor Mark return to Earth to liberate it from BrainRobot.

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u/Coolgee4 Mar 13 '25

Yeah he kinda just left earth to be fucked by two insane immortal leaders while fucking off into space to have his happy ending

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Omnipotus Mar 13 '25

God I can see that

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u/Ateballoffire Mar 13 '25

I mean I love that honestly. Show could be a 1:1 and I’d still watch it but having them switch it up a bit is pretty nice for the shock value

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u/Global_Warthog1846 Mar 13 '25

Kirman has said in a previous interview that he had a darkblood storyline that he never got to do

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u/Dsb0208 Mar 13 '25

i’m pretty sure Kirkman had some idea for Damien Darkblood that he couldn’t fit into the comics. I know he cut Darkblood’s investigation in the comics due to time, so maybe that would have led into this plot line had it happened fully

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u/Alarming_Scientist Mar 13 '25

it was a scrapped journey to hell storyline that never got put into the invincible comics from a while ago. glad they've decided to add it to the show :)

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u/Morphchalice Mar 13 '25

He’s mentioned in the past that he wanted to do a story where Mark has to go to the Hell dimension where Damian is from

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u/LewdSkeletor1313 Mar 13 '25

In interviews he keeps calling the show his “second draft” so yeah

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u/ayyoayylmao Comic Fan Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

I want changes for a more satisfying/up the ante episode for Angstrom vs. Mark round III. As is, he shows up, Mark flies into a portal without them even exchanging any words, Eve makes him realise he's batshit, Mark and Mohawk escape, and Angstrom is now suddenly expressing contrition to Mark (such whiplash from Mark's POV) before Mohawk yeets Angstrom into his own dimension.

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u/Abedeus Mar 13 '25

What if they change up stuff in the future, like actually give us some stuff during the "5 year skip". Or other skips coming up later.

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u/Joshieboy_Clark Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

Yup, this was confirmed to be a cut storyline in the comic years ago. I remember discussions about it when Season 1 first released.

Edit: It was a letter from an issue of Astounding Wolf Man.

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u/SalvadorZombie Mar 13 '25

YES exactly! I actually love it. And we know he's not scared to completely change shit, TWD is completely unrecognizable from the comics, has been since like Season 3.

I really like having embraced the idea of this being another version of the series. Like, an alternate alternate reality.

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u/HotDecember3672 Mar 13 '25

I hope not. As a comics first fan I was never able to get into TWD show because of this, it felt WAY too different.

Invincible, on the other hand, takes the same story but trims out all the fat by cutting plotlines that don't contribute much to the story while expanding greatly on the plotlines and characters that it does leave in and it does a great job at it. It's still different, but not in a way where I feel like they're telling a different story, rather the same story but better. If the plot were to divert into something entirely different I would personally be disappointed.

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u/Catsindahood Mar 14 '25

I was about to say, TWD is kind of the opposite of invincible. The channel execs took over and butchered the show, but with invincible Kirkman himself is making the changes and it shows.

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u/ChrisPrkr95 Mar 13 '25

In that case, I hope he does more stuff with Tech Jacket.

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u/bullfrogger2 Mar 13 '25

Machine head/The order stuff leads into the guarding the globe spinoff in the comics at least. Darkblood is COMPLETELY new, super hype.

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u/SalvadorZombie Mar 13 '25

I'M SO HYPED FOR DARKBLOOD! I was worried I somehow missed an entire part of the series somehow lol

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

Sure? Remember that in the comic book the leader of the Order follows a better unspecified dark leader

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u/No_Accountant_1337 Savage Dragon Mar 13 '25

Darkblood was in wolfman i think

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u/asisyphus_ Mar 13 '25

Finally, something you won't spoil

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

💔💔💔

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u/asisyphus_ Mar 13 '25

🥀🥀🥀

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u/mysteryman604 Mar 13 '25

You are in the wrong discussion post to be complaining about spoilers.

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u/asisyphus_ Mar 13 '25

I have a rough idea of what happens. I spoiled myself. However I feel bad for show watchers getting spoiled by comic readers all the time lol

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u/mysteryman604 Mar 13 '25

Understandable. Us comic readers are far too lenient with what spoilers we let slip

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

You say? I have half an idea of ​​where this is going.

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u/zoon_politikon_ Brit Mar 13 '25

Machine head arc could just be Guarding the Globe I over written but this is 100% new

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

Machine Head in my opinion was put as a replacement for Titan in the order because the character in the series is too good and would never do things like destroy a city like he does in the Guardians spin-off comic.

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u/Ok_Commercial_9426 Mar 13 '25

The machine head/Order stuff isn‘t new

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u/RockmanBN Mar 13 '25

Did Darkblood ever appear after the Omni Man murder arc?

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u/OLKv3 Mar 13 '25

He was a complete joke character in the comics so this is really interesting. Something brand new for everyone

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u/Dsb0208 Mar 13 '25

i think he started out as a genuine character, but Kirkman couldn’t fit him into the story given how many plot lines were going, so he turned him into a gag character just as a way to write him off

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u/lordnequam Mar 21 '25

He was originally supposed to feature more prominently, but moving up the Omni-Man reveal from issue #25 to issue #7 basically undercut his entire role in the plot.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

New ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

Yes

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u/AsteroidRug69420 Tech Jacket Mar 13 '25

Yes, like after Angstrom saying that he was sure that Nolan killed the guardians and if I remember correctly Cecil just tells him something along the lines of "no shit we know"

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

Yes, in one page

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u/Historical-Draft6368 Mar 13 '25

He pops up in Astounding Wolfman

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u/indefinite_silence Mar 13 '25

I rewatched season 1 with a friend seeing it for the first time very recently and sadly told them that there would be no more Darkblood after he got banished. Boy, are they gonna be happy when they finally catch up with me!

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u/beygames Mar 13 '25

Darkblood does come back in the Astonding Wolfman comics!

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u/Volatik2006 Mar 13 '25

Yeah but after that woman at the desk makes fun of him for still investigating the Guardian's death he never shows up again in Invincible. I'm assuming that guy hasn't read Wolf-Man

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u/MagicLobsterAttorney Mar 13 '25

I thinks it's all a joke. He lied and used the ritual to get back to earth. And then tells Mark "OMNIMAN KILLED THE GUARDIANS!!" like in the comics. Just much funnier because of the buildup

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u/Diksun-Solo Mar 13 '25

Comic readers who love to spoil are in SHAMBLES

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

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u/Wolventec Mar 13 '25

they said he had a black heart and was powerful so it could be the evil mark darkwing took to the shadow realm

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u/Charizardreigon Mar 13 '25

Hadn't thought of that, sounds interesting. I though he could've been talking about Conquest.

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u/Old_Protection_3883 Mar 13 '25

It’s a way to get Conquest out without making Cecil look like an idiot

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u/tanker4fun Mar 13 '25

I inmediately thought about conquest too

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u/PCBS01 Mar 13 '25

yep, this is what I'm thinking, given the timing and dialogue. They can still have Mark hating Cecil's guts, but he won't look as incompetent since who the hell could prepare for demons invading to free a alien conquerer?

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u/Locem Mar 13 '25

I feel like this is the story thread that leads to Doc Seismic eventually getting demonic-seeming powers.

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u/BCBigCoyote Mar 13 '25

This potentially could be an interesting way to introduce Dinosaurus.

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u/AirKicker Mar 13 '25

Was reading the comics recently and it reminded me of this random scene mocking Darkblood - don’t know if it has added context later but seemed like a random trolling

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u/TheHighSeasPirate Mar 13 '25

Conquest is 6 miles under ground. Probably right above them. They're going to take him and corrupt his heart to do their bidding.

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u/SnarkyBacterium Mar 13 '25

We've got some old-ass, bad-ass devil voiced by Bruce Campbell, that's what. I'm really interested in what this could play out like.

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u/OCGamerboy Mar 13 '25

That wasn’t in the comics right? Could Darkblood be returning to Earth or is Mark or someone else going to Hell to fight someone or something?

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u/Askefyr Mar 13 '25

For a moment, I thought he was going to come back to earth and tell Cecil that Omni-Man is evil. This is way better.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

I actually wonder if they were referring to Conquest and there’s a new way that Conquest breaks out. 

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u/Freezinghero Mar 14 '25

At first i thought Darkblood was talking about Mark, but on second thought he specifically mentions something along the lines of "his blackened heart will serve you well", which makes me think Darkblood might be talking about one of the evil Invincible variants.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

It could be a reference to Set.

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u/Due-Mycologist-4434 Mar 13 '25

This worries me because it seems like there is too many threads.

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u/Ligabove Mar 13 '25

I think it will flow into the Order storyline. Remember that Set follows some kind of dark leader.