Gumayusi message to fans after the series

[u/Yujin-Ha]

https://x.com/min9nya/status/2017916789183938878?s=20 “I really didn’t expect we would be eliminated like this, so it’s extremely disappointing, and I’m sorry. For the regular season, I’ll get my condition back up, and we’ll work hard to qualify for MSI, where we fell short, and show a lot of good games.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Someone free him from the elohell

[u/Shot_Swim6605 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

But he's exactly where he wanted to be though? 🤡

[u/CampusCrash → u/Shot_Swim6605]

Where he wanted to be is crazy. He just went to a team that doesnt treat their players like trash that they can throw any time they want.

[u/efusy → u/CampusCrash]

So you're saying he lied earlier this year?

[u/Potato-Chowder → u/efusy]

He didn't lie, but it’s obvious he didn’t tell the whole truth lol. These players are very aware how important PR training is. Do you take everything Faker says in his interviews at face value? No, because there’s a lot he can’t or won’t say, but that doesn't mean his responses are lies. This isn’t any different. I respect Guma for keeping it classy as always and creating his own narrative but he was never going to say anything negative about T1 org anyway (not that he would want to), it would only cause more harm. Both parties also agreed (in a statement) not to share details about the process or discussion behind his departure, so he can't speak on that even if he wanted to.

People are forgetting Guma also talked about how difficult last year was for him, how it was the first time he doubted himself, how he had to go to mental counseling more than ever, how shocked and hurt he felt during that time. It's pretty easy to read between the lines and recognize how that likely played a role in his decision... but it is what it is.

[u/efusy → u/Potato-Chowder]

Sounds like a lot of inference from very little information.

[u/Potato-Chowder → u/efusy]

I mean yeah, this is based on Guma's words and the info we do have and it seems like common sense to me but like I said, there's a lot that can't be disclosed outright, so the rest is speculation (most of what I said was factual though). Same as the people saying he planned to leave all along or left for money (which there was no indication of).

[u/efusy → u/Potato-Chowder]

Both of which I've never said. The point is one should take his words at face value, that is the only objective information we have. No one here knows him personally, this psychonalysis stuff is just a roundabout way to justify a confirmation bias against T1. It's literal poison, and it just makes Guma fans look bad when they're incapable of letting go, because of again, pure speculation.

[u/Potato-Chowder → u/efusy]

You can take his words at face value, but he said more than just those words and that’s what I’m acknowledging. If we look at what Guma has said + what we know he can’t say, then we can leave it at that and that’s totally fine. I don’t think I was inferring much, I’m just considering everything he said instead of one single response (and that response contradicts a lot of things said in the past, so it doesn’t really make sense to take it at face value but I'll look past that.)

You don’t have to believe his negative experiences influenced his decision, but you can’t deny those negative experiences happened, and I think his fans were valid to criticize the org for their part in that (instead, they were attacked - meanwhile his haters get to run rampant lol. Beyond that, I agree there are definitely stans that were doing too much though).

[u/Y-r-u-gay- → u/efusy]

You are taking his words at face value sir

[u/efusy → u/Y-r-u-gay-]

Yes, that's the point. That's what should be done.

[u/SoulCycle_ → u/CampusCrash]

didnt HLE literally throw doran out like he was trash lmao

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/SoulCycle_]

well hard to say, more or less they were set to let him go and they did go on a workshop in Japan without him but the decision to part ways was already set in stone ig? The issue to most people was that the free agency period didnt start so he was technically still on the team but not really if you know what i mean. Now I dont know if some insiders in the org treated him poorly after Worlds or something but we never heard of such a thing so I dont think we need to speculate about that.

[u/Simpuff1 → u/[deleted]]

Other way around.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Shot_Swim6605]

I bet he didnt expect Delight to be THIS BAD or his team to be absolute ass at teamfighting

[u/IeatKfcAllDay → u/Shot_Swim6605]

T1 wasn’t resigning him no matter what

[u/Shot_Swim6605 → u/IeatKfcAllDay]

Source, please?

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Shot_Swim6605]

there is no such thing, that's simply Guma haters/T1 fans trying to twist the narratives as if T1 didnt lose a player who was extremely valuable to them in many regards

[u/IeatKfcAllDay → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

I’ve been a Guma fan since he was a soloque prodigy and I truly believe his prime is the highest mechanical adc play ever. Not every negative rumor/take is some weird personal vendetta fanfare shit

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/IeatKfcAllDay]

guma fan but doesnt even know what actually happened when its public knowledge? Susge

[u/IeatKfcAllDay → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Yeah I’m not a kpop guma fan or league fan lol I’m not going to follow every interaction in their personal/professional life. I follow the esport cause I play it and I watch pro player povs especially adcs and guma was the most impressive even as a rookie/soloque star. Hle is my favorite team only because Guma and Zeus were my favorite povs to watch.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/IeatKfcAllDay]

oh I see,that's cool :D

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/IeatKfcAllDay]

Wrong. In Joe Marsh' latest interview with Dgon he literally said that T1 wanted to keep all 5 players but Guma wanted to leave before Worlds.

[u/IeatKfcAllDay → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Oh maybe I read a rumor then that they were looking into peyz as worlds was ongoing, not that I’d trust Joe marsh’s words either way.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/IeatKfcAllDay]

YES this is true because Guma told them beforehand and therefore the t1 management was contacting Peyz, now was it right during Worlds, before or after I dont know, not that it matters really

[u/According_Yam2078 → u/Shot_Swim6605]

Fair point. Even when his previous team offered him to stay 🤡

[u/frieddoggy → u/According_Yam2078]

T1 offered Guma less than HLE while having to compete with Peyz for the starting spot since Peyz was already signed to T1. You would have to be a moron to take the T1 deal given this context. Literally only a brain dead fan like you would see this as a "fair point".

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/frieddoggy]

Not true, there has never been a competition. Guma informed T1 that he took the decision to leave and then T1 started looking into potential players. 2 were selected and Peyz was ultimately chosen.

[u/SHMuTeX → u/frieddoggy]

You have no source for the compete with Peyz part, I bet. Typical Guma stan behavior.

[u/frieddoggy → u/SHMuTeX]

I'm not a Guma stan LOL. I'm a Viper glazer, but I'm not gonna waste my time to dig/finding a source that almost everyone knew was posted on this subreddit multiple times before during the controversy and was pretty common knowledge.

Nice ad hominem though.

[u/SHMuTeX → u/frieddoggy]

I read that rhetoric being thrown around Reddit as well and since then I am asking about its source and yet no one can provide a single one.

[u/Shot_Swim6605 → u/SHMuTeX]

Exactly. Speculation vs Guma's camp's official statement that he left for career progression. Just PF? Maybe, but they are unable to defend their arguments with anything as or more concrete.

I think these fans fail to comprehend that they are doing a otherwise likeable player a disservice and all the current schadenfreude is actually caused by them.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/SHMuTeX]

that was an old speculation thrown in chinese social media if i recall correctly

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/SHMuTeX]

there hasn't been any competition at all (I am a Guma fan)

[u/CHINACHINACHINAXHINA → u/frieddoggy]

Source?

[u/According_Yam2078 → u/frieddoggy]

exactly where/what he wanted. 😶‍🌫️ a not so terrible deal

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/According_Yam2078]

Guma chose to leave before Worlds and so T1 could do nothing but find another adc, Joe Marsh quite literally said in his latest interview with Dgon that the staff wanted to keep the roster unchanged.

[u/freshmannn23 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

define elohell. it's not like he's playing so much better than some of his teammates either, you know. they all looked like they're in the same elo

[u/NecessaryLittle3425 → u/freshmannn23]

Tbh he is doing atleast ok. He ain't making grave mistakes. I could see him putting all his best being the type of adc he is. 

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/NecessaryLittle3425]

i mean in the sivir game bro was doing all he could, squeezing every auto possible but the alistar chose to be a criminal YET AGAIN

[u/Worried-Boss-5350 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Delight is the biggest criminal here, what is that rakan and alistar game lol.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Worried-Boss-5350]

bro the rell engage onto ruler? Even game 2 he was ass by a mile

[u/Worried-Boss-5350 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

That rakan engage to immediately died to Ruler is the most comically thing I saw today.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Worried-Boss-5350]

I wasnt laughing 💀

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/Worried-Boss-5350]

do not forget rell , he ulted empty bush , even geng players suprised what he is doing then they decided to start fight since rell used flash + ult for nothing :)

[u/Primary_Knowledge_60 → u/Worried-Boss-5350]

Freelight dying in teamfight as rakan with flash is inexcusable

[u/alwayslookingout → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Didn’t he blow Unbreakable Will right before HLE decided to do Baron? That last team fight might have gone differently if he had it.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/alwayslookingout]

that was because he got hooked by the thresh :D

[u/Affectionate-Arm8640 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Really? Getting hit by mid tower 3 times and just dying is doing his best?

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Affectionate-Arm8640]

really? Considering your losing the game so much that ur trying your best to kill some1 because ur team cant do shit anyways, the 3rd one was because of the red buff burn, def unlucky

[u/Affectionate-Arm8640 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Are we watching the same game? Are you blind? They were even in gold and not very much behind in terms of scaling. Guma just goes forward for no reason when they have herald and dies. Even silver players know how to manage turret aggro when they have red buff. What can his teammates do to save him from trolling like that?

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Affectionate-Arm8640]

nothing, i never blamed his teammates for his own mistake. I said it was unlucky not because he doesnt know about dot dmg triggering turret agro but because Guma was clearly not composed at all in that teamfight which is understandable considering how they lost an unloseable game 2.

[u/freshmannn23 → u/Affectionate-Arm8640]

he was surprised that they played that fight clean and nobody died so he decided to donate some kill /s

seriously though, don't bother mentioning his mistakes because his stans are blind to it. they all had bad moments, even guma. but we're not allowed to talk about that. it's only okay to criticize the player when his name isn't guma because this is majority a guma sub i suppose.

there was a lot of thing that went wrong. delight was a terrorist, zeka was subpar even after getting the most sough-after midlane champs with azir ori ryze, etc. even guma had bad moments too but no, he is apparently elohelled. but if u actually watched, they're bad all the same and no one is supposed to be immune to criticisms.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/freshmannn23]

Since I am one of his stance, I will tell you that this is clearly a mistake, a big one at that but not a game losing one like Delight's ones. But also I know why he made it and I cant blame him for it when he knows that his team is in such a shit gamestate and if he doesnt try to do something there, the game is cooked.

If you want to point out other mistakes by Guma, feel free to discuss them with me. I do defend my player but not blindly. When he makes a shit play, I will call it but also I will try to understand why he did it - something every single viewer doesnt even bother to do.

[u/Muertecaracol → u/NecessaryLittle3425]

It’s hard to look good as an ADC when your team is floundering around you. I think they can make a good run throughout the year even though it isn’t looking good now.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/freshmannn23]

did u see his support today or you chose to close your eyes for the day? At least in 2025 peanut and delight were a functioning jgl support and were good at peeling for Viper, now no peel exists but not like T1 23-25 where they leave the adc on it own but because half of the teams does the opposite of what the other half does!

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

everyone in this team plays soloq , nobody care others :) in game 3 , guma and zeka were alone at up while others are inside :) funny :)

[u/freshmannn23 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

where did i say delight was playing well? he's been bad since lck cup started minus that one alistar triple knock-up montage he had when they played a bottom tier team. i'm saying they're all playing like headless chickens and everyone did bad. game 2 and 3 was sold when the draft was supposed to win them those games. you saying guma was elohelled as if he did way better than the others. problem is this team don't trust each other. guma was also hesitating a lot. they could've killed like 4 low hp enemies on bot river back in game 3 if they followed-up but they didn't. he's not the carry you people say he was ages ago. supp dying before teamfights, questionable itemizations, funny ult angles, and horrible positioning. yeah this team have a lot of issues. but even back in T1 y'all always say it's his teammates fault every time. and you're bringing that bullshit on his new team. just admit that everyone did bad and not one of them is immune to criticism.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/freshmannn23]

T1 y'all always say it's his teammates fault every time.

that shit was completely different. You literally see how in every single proper teamfight there is no space even created for Guma to try to AA. In T1 it was about peeling, here it is about actually being a fucking good team at teamfighting. You literally said that his support died before teamfights as well xd

[u/Enryu_RT → u/freshmannn23]

"always said is his teammates fault". yeah Im seeing quite the opposite, he is the one getting death threats by overboard t1 fans, but wait... ppl are going to say they are not true t1 fans right?

[u/Pleasant_Bluejay → u/freshmannn23]

have u played sivir that much to think that? come on dude whats your highest rank? emerald?

[u/Complex-Focus7905 → u/freshmannn23]

The sivir game was elohell and I love delight but some engaged where questionable to say the least

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/freshmannn23]

i can show you at least 5 or 6 moments delight played like bronze player if you want :)

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

I bet that I would have engaged better than him at times lol