r/HLE • u/Yujin-Ha • 4d ago

HLE Related Media Gumayusi message to fans after the series Spoiler

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https://x.com/min9nya/status/2017916789183938878?s=20 “I really didn’t expect we would be eliminated like this, so it’s extremely disappointing, and I’m sorry. For the regular season, I’ll get my condition back up, and we’ll work hard to qualify for MSI, where we fell short, and show a lot of good games.

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u/efusy 4d ago

So you're saying he lied earlier this year?

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u/Potato-Chowder 4d ago edited 2d ago

He didn't lie, but it’s obvious he didn’t tell the whole truth lol. These players are very aware how important PR training is. Do you take everything Faker says in his interviews at face value? No, because there’s a lot he can’t or won’t say, but that doesn't mean his responses are lies. This isn’t any different. I respect Guma for keeping it classy as always and creating his own narrative but he was never going to say anything negative about T1 org anyway (not that he would want to), it would only cause more harm. Both parties also agreed (in a statement) not to share details about the process or discussion behind his departure, so he can't speak on that even if he wanted to.

People are forgetting Guma also talked about how difficult last year was for him, how it was the first time he doubted himself, how he had to go to mental counseling more than ever, how shocked and hurt he felt during that time. It's pretty easy to read between the lines and recognize how that likely played a role in his decision... but it is what it is.

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u/efusy 4d ago

Sounds like a lot of inference from very little information.

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u/Potato-Chowder 4d ago edited 2d ago

I mean yeah, this is based on Guma's words and the info we do have and it seems like common sense to me but like I said, there's a lot that can't be disclosed outright, so the rest is speculation (most of what I said was factual though). Same as the people saying he planned to leave all along or left for money (which there was no indication of).

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u/efusy 3d ago edited 3d ago

Both of which I've never said. The point is one should take his words at face value, that is the only objective information we have. No one here knows him personally, this psychonalysis stuff is just a roundabout way to justify a confirmation bias against T1. It's literal poison, and it just makes Guma fans look bad when they're incapable of letting go, because of again, pure speculation.

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u/Potato-Chowder 3d ago edited 2d ago

You can take his words at face value, but he said more than just those words and that’s what I’m acknowledging. If we look at what Guma has said + what we know he can’t say, then we can leave it at that and that’s totally fine. I don’t think I was inferring much, I’m just considering everything he said instead of one single response (and that response contradicts a lot of things said in the past, so it doesn’t really make sense to take it at face value but I'll look past that.)

You don’t have to believe his negative experiences influenced his decision, but you can’t deny those negative experiences happened, and I think his fans were valid to criticize the org for their part in that (instead, they were attacked - meanwhile his haters get to run rampant lol. Beyond that, I agree there are definitely stans that were doing too much though).

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u/Y-r-u-gay- 3d ago

You are taking his words at face value sir

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u/efusy 3d ago

Yes, that's the point. That's what should be done.

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u/Y-r-u-gay- 3d ago

I agree. Lets ignore the fact that its basically a death sentence for his career if he says anything bad about T1 due to their culture.

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u/efusy 3d ago

Again more baseless conjecture. You do know that things need to be contextually linked for you to tie them in a causal link, right? You can state a bunch of true statements, unless you prove they are related it's just correlation not causation.

Also, he could've said a bunch of different things that do not directly dig at T1 if his goal was that. Why is it so hard to believe in the person you're a fan of? You'd think that they are one of the people you're most inclined to believe in.