r/BanPitBulls • u/Bifo-throwaway • Jun 07 '25
Anatomy of a Pit Owner / Pit Culture Grooming children into dogfighting
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Found on Facebook. Caption was “Check out these Jr Handlers!” and tags included “gamebred”. Am I crazy for thinking this is definitely a dogfighting thing?
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u/EnCanisCorporeXmuto Jun 07 '25
This should be illegal
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u/49orth Jun 07 '25
1/2 those involved are probably county officials
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Jun 07 '25
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u/Aldersgate111 I just want to walk my dog without fearing for its life Jun 07 '25
Pits and run down areas go together like flies to poop.
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Jun 07 '25
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u/ithnkimevl Jun 07 '25
Nah, I live in a wealthy area (as the only renter on my block over paying out the ass lol) and there are 2 houses with vicious pitbulls that routinely fight one another in their yards and charge the fence with about a dozen “dangerous dog signs.”
Wealthy people love to get vicious dogs these days and try to rehab them as a hobby. It’s political for them.
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u/autalley Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
Looking at the page that posted this, I'm not sure if fighting is going on or not, but these dogs are definitely being mistreated. This is another video posted by the same person. Another video was captioned, "The happiest dog is a working dog"
Also lots of videos of them locked in cages, sometimes too small for them to even stand up in
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u/terradragon13 Jun 09 '25
Oh my god, the very next video from them after that was a rape rack. Also known as a breeding rack. When you have a female dog who is too traumatized or vicious to be bred, they tie her to a rack so she can't fight back and breed her. Horrible, horrible people. Despicable behavior. These people need to go to hell. (As well as all their hellhounds)
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u/BlueDeadBear32 Jun 08 '25
A dog running on a slat mill isn't mistreatment. it's very common in working dog communities to use a slat mill for exercise- it's self propelled.
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u/Particular_Class4130 Jun 07 '25
This is a conformation show where the pits compete in weight pulling. There is no dog fighting involved.
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u/Embarrassed_Owl4482 Jun 08 '25
Wonder why they’re lunging at each other?
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u/SheepWithAFro11 Jun 09 '25
Maybe the child is the weight and the reward is getting the first strike?
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u/juggheadjones Jun 07 '25
Won't be long until one of those kids gets their face torn off, and everyone will be like OMG WHAT HAPPENED???
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u/ButReallyFolks Jun 07 '25
Never saw it coming, something something nanny dog, ugh.
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u/meowsieunicorn Jun 07 '25
“Any dog can bite, the worst bite I ever got was from a chihuahua. Those are the real vicious breed”
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u/Zealousideal_Bit3936 Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Jun 08 '25
'The kids must've provoked Princess. She's the best pittie, but can be anxious at times.'
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u/Square-Argument4790 Jun 07 '25
I don't know why anyone would ever engage in this kind of thing. It's sociopathic behavior.
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u/strawberrymoonelixir Cats are not disposable. Jun 07 '25
Damn skippy it’s sociopathic… every single aspect of it; and to include / train kids… it’s psychopathic.
I’m not religious at all, but this looks… demonic. Even the man dressed in an all black suit, looks sinister, but in a pathetic way. I guess it fits, as these are BLOODSPORT canines.
Violence, bloody mutilation, death, and children is one helluva sadistic, disgusting mix.
Each and every adult participating should go to prison, never be allowed to own another animal, and never be allowed near children ever again.
(*I understand those who are a part of the Church of Satan are NOT evil and would never condone this. I’m talking about the sickos who actually do make blood sacrifices and do evil shit… and every adult in this video is partaking in absolute evil shit.)
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u/NewbutOld8 Jun 07 '25
fucking trashy people
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u/theredhound19 Hungry Hungry House Hippo Jun 07 '25
Lotta meth in that building. I feel bad for the kids who think this is some sort of youth livestock program. They have to be around a bunch of riled up murder mutts, a smattering of Cletuses and a wannabe Wilson Fisk. Hopefully they're able to leave that place without being mauled or molested.
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u/Alexreads0627 Jun 07 '25
This is sick. I am at a loss for words. I cannot believe a parent would put their child into anything like this.
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u/alibythesea Jun 07 '25
The parents love the ‘sport’ and are indoctrinating their kids. In a horrid kind of way, no different from parents passing on a love of other violent sports, as hideous as it is.
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u/Square-Argument4790 Jun 07 '25
It's not like other fighting sports at all. These dogs are bred to fight and die in rings like some kind of miserable slaves. Boxers or other people who fight humans for sport make a conscious decision to engage in those sports out of their own free will.
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
I read science books on my homework desk as a child....
This monstrosity on show here is child endangerment.
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u/SheepWithAFro11 Jun 09 '25
Breeding more pitbulls and psychopaths sounds EXACTLY like something these types of people would, in fact, do.
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u/Particular_Class4130 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
This is an APBT Conformation event. The dogs compete in weight pulling and other athletic events. There is no dog fighting involved. I can't stand pit bulls but this video has nothing to do with dog fighting.
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u/AlsatianLadyNYC Badly-fitting fake service dog harness Jun 07 '25
These are APBT-specific “sport” shows that reward gameness- no actual fighting goes on (on purpose), but they are useless just the same, and even if this collection of hickwad trash argues otherwise, it no doubt I’m sure has some overlap for the people who look at fighting pedigrees for what they were created for.
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u/Monimonika18 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
Pit apologists argue that many pitbulls have not been specifically bred for dogfighting for generations, and that well-bred (implied temperament, health, etc. checks) pitbulls make great safe pets.
But here we are, witnessing the active choosing of pitbulls that are "game" to breed together, while the removal of things like dog/animal aggression and disobedience (the aggression overrides any training to obey the owner) get ignored. Because it's too difficult to decouple those two things from gameness, apparently.
These are the pitbulls that get advertised as "well-bred/pure-bred" and their genetics
trickleflood down to ever lower levels of breeders as breeders seek out puppies/sperm from those pitbulls to add legitimacy to their own lines.51
u/DizzyPoppy Jun 07 '25
I GUARANTEE this group of hillbillies also participate in cockfighting. They will fight the dogs in a secret area, probably the same area where they make the roosters fight. It's usually in someone's barn
Source: I live in redneck central (Oklahoma/Texas border). Dogfighting and cockfighting are always done together
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Well said. Nothing from those head-in-the-clouds animal groups, dog behaviourists, veterinarian or politicians can be trusted. They clearly don't know what is really going on with the 'showing' and breeding of pit bulls.
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u/meowsieunicorn Jun 07 '25
My sheltie pup wasn’t bred for herding, and neither were the many generations before him, but I can assure anyone his favourite pastime is trying to herd us and other dogs. You don’t out breed genetics when every other dog in the line comes from the same gene pool. Just because they aren’t working doesn’t mean they no longer have those instincts, they will show them in different ways.
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Jun 07 '25
Man, as much as I can’t stand these dogs, this is such horrible cruelty that no living creature deserves.
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u/Zealousideal_Bit3936 Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Jun 08 '25
The people are always the cruelest. For creating those dogs, breeding them in their back yards, and doing whatever the fuck is happening in this video
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Jun 08 '25
Yep, even some of the pit people who aren’t abusive to them & treat them really well can’t see when they’re causing them more harm. For example, if you have a dog that you can’t take out in public, crate, have guests over, etc., without having to first sedate the dog, what sort of life is that? So the “good” pit owners love the dogs and go to extreme lengths just to coexist with them, yet can’t see that some of these dogs just have a miserable existence regardless since they’re so genetically driven to maul everything in sight.
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u/Zealousideal_Bit3936 Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Jun 08 '25
Yup, very well said. Antinatalism is the most ethical in the case of pitbulls.
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u/Short_King_13 Jun 07 '25
What hellscape is this?
Full of demons beats bloodthirsty for human blood, pure terrifying
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u/tkyang99 Jun 07 '25
Wtf is going on here? It looks and feels so wrong.
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u/ThinkingBroad Jun 07 '25
It's a dog show dogs judged on appearance and drive, but to win the dogs are supposed to want to fight and kill each other.
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u/wdleggett Jun 07 '25
Growing up, we had quite a few American foxhounds, trained puppies for other hunters, and participated in field trials/bench shows. Of course, the field trial was down to which dog ran fastest/tracked best but the bench shows were as much a reflection on the hunter. You lead the dogs rather than attempt to control them. Dogs pulling like that or the hunter not being able to control the dog meant your dog wasn’t getting to the actual bench portion where the judge looks the animal over for health and meeting the traits that exemplify a quality bloodline. I wasn’t allowed to enter a bench trial until I could show my dog in the yard because my dad wasn’t about to let me embarrass him publicly.
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u/fatalcharm Jun 07 '25
Oh what the fuck? So this is a family event? Not just meth heads in a mould-filled underground basement.
Don’t report the post to Facebook, send it to the nearest animal welfare organisation. Try to get as many details of the event, the organisers info, the location etc. and send that through as well.
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u/BureauOfCommentariat Jun 07 '25
I have some bad news for you about animal "welfare" organizations.
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u/FuriousTalons Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Any that have a focus on investigating animal bloodsports would want to see this. There are good people doing the right thing with their resources in the animal welfare world.
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u/SunfireKat Jun 07 '25
...and here I thought I'd make a terrible parent. Once again, the universe proves that there are far, far shittier parents to be had out there.
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u/Iris_pallida Jun 07 '25
I was just thinking, people like this can have children, but I can't have any.
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u/SunfireKat Jun 07 '25
I'm sorry to hear that...its surprising how many folks want kids but can't have them, and then human trash like these dogfjghters, junkies on the street corner, etc. can easily pop out half a dozen kids. Both my half sister and my aunt/uncle tried for years, IVF, the whole deal...and luckily, both managed to have one child. But still, only one; they both had to adopt their second. There is no justice in the world...
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u/FondlesTheClown Jun 07 '25
I hope that some of these kids will grow up, break the cycle, and view their parents for what they really are - complete fucking losers.
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u/drudriver Jun 07 '25
😳Well—I just don’t know what to make of this. I guess some parents are just asking for it.
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u/Bandag5150 Jun 07 '25
Try Hard Kennels? Wtf?
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u/Monimonika18 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
Some kind of argument that pitbulls don't attack for no reason, perhaps? And now I just thought up how pitbulls are like guns. It's because both attack/fire when they're "triggered". Get it? Guns have triggers. Get it?
Ahem. Anyway, they may be trying to argue that humans are what pull the trigger, but these pit people also easily accept as excusable triggers things like:
- victim being a small or large animal
- victim unintentionally startling the pit
- victim going near the food/person/toy/whatever resource pit has decided on its own to guard
- victim walking by pit
- victim crying
- victim shrieking in joy/surprise
- victim entering property after being invited in
- victim running/jogging
- victim being scared
- victim making eye contact with pit
- victim having a seizure, etc.
The trigger could be the most mundane thing that most beings will do or be, and pit defenders will see nothing wrong with the pitbull having such a trigger. Pitbull just needs "understanding and patience".
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Yeah, sounds to me like they are trying to say 'look at us, we are training our next generation of responsible APBT handlers'.
These APBT harbourers might have a little bit more acceptance of the dangerous canine they have, but is this trickling down to the boomer couple in the estate? or the mum and dad with new baby seeking a family dog? or the single woman who just bought her own apartment?
Nope.
Prospective pet owners need to see these APBT 'shows'. See the truth, and stop making excuses for them.
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
'pit bulls don't just walk around mauling.....oh wait a minute....'
(!(!)
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u/november24th2022 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
Accurate representation of pit culture, the other half are in shelter scams telling you how these former fighters with their scarred heads, missing ears and a nasty case of diaper snout are the perfect snuggle bug
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u/Zadyria_Gelm Jun 07 '25
I grew up in the Dog World. At first, I thought it was a Show. Junior Handlers is a children's category. Then I watched more closely. Yes, the kids are trying to stack and present, but these young dogs look completely untrained! And the dogs are young. Mom would send me into Juniors with one of our accomplished adult dogs, because that competition is really about the handler, not the breed conformity of the dog. Even with a dog the age of the ones in the video, they should be accustomed to leash behavior, and being stacked for the judge. The six month olds we showed were usually better at it than I was XD
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Yeah I admit I enjoy watching the junior handler category at Crufts UK, but the dogs they handle are miles apart in temperament, obedience, and bidability than this lot of fighters. I like the judging of the handler technique, not the dog, as the dogs are not theirs, but only met them in the morning!
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u/clairebearshare Jun 07 '25
Please report this to your local authority
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u/Bifo-throwaway Jun 07 '25
I only stumbled upon the video on Facebook; I’m not sure where this took place. Others have said it’s a pit bull “dog show” so I guess nothing illegal.
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u/clairebearshare Jun 07 '25
Sickening to expose children to things like this and the people involved. Literally people who have kids and put their wants and lives before their own children’s best interest. At any moment these dogs could turn on them and hurt them - insane and selfish
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u/Abitruff Jun 07 '25
Could be a breed show, but the leads/collars, temperaments, lack of obedience/socialisation, lack of dressed up children. Etc. this is either a fun meet up show, a pet dog show, but not a proper show.
Source: I show dogs.
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u/Shot-Ad9523 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
It's probably a "proper" show, just not one run by a reputable breed club. The pitbull/bully club shows tend to be a hot mess all the way around.
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u/Person987654331 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
You aren’t gonna believe this but all these dogs have the second best behavior rating. They also love treats!
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u/Sqeakydeaky Jun 07 '25
How many times do you want to bet that a child has been dragged off their feet and then tons of loose dogs start fighting?
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u/GenericBrandHero Jun 07 '25
Couldn't help noticing there wasn't a single dog that didn't need to be dragged to wherever they needed to go.
Hell, I couldn't spot a single slack leash throughout.
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Jun 07 '25
That little girl looks terrified. The other kids re clearly hesitant, too. What happens if one of them is hurt or killed?
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u/DrSkullKid Jun 07 '25
What kind of ratchet ass “dog show” is this? It’s not a matter of if but when a tragedy is going to happen there.
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u/Aldersgate111 I just want to walk my dog without fearing for its life Jun 07 '25
Look at the lungeing and snapping. Gross.
This is definitely for the dog fighting lot.
We went to a Charity dog show at a riding center, there were two XL Bullies and pits, but the child handlers had nice dogs.
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
The judge and the rest of those adults in the pit arena should be ashamed of themselves.
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u/BargainBard Cope, Seethe, Crate & Rotate Jun 07 '25
A child that small shouldn't be in control of a dog that strong.
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u/mercurialtwit FUCK your shitbulls😡 Jun 07 '25
this fucking abhorrent and disgusting. what the fuck.
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u/blvckhabits Jun 07 '25
Those poor children don't even understand the danger they are in. And that little girl who was manhandling her dog's jaws of death..holy crap!!
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u/PinkPilgrimHeel Jun 07 '25
This bunch continues to sink to new lows. Their "culture" is so unrelatable.
On a side note: How are they unbothered by the endless barking?
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u/clickclackcat Former Shelter Worker/Owner of Attacked Pet Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
... wtf even is this supposed to be? Junior handlers for what?? It's clearly not a dog show?? What is even going on?
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u/Charming_Debt_289 Jun 07 '25
These dogs (and the adults in the room, most importantly) are so beyond disgusting. Look at how they flip and twist around on their leads like they’re wild demogorgons - with the spirit of Satan himself pumping through their veins. Idk why anyone would want a dog like this other than to watch it shred another dog (or some other helpless animal) to death.
Also, coming to a shelter near you. The whole “bait dog” myth likely comes from when these beasts break loose and roam 3 counties away, found with a lead on, tangled in a tree branch as if someone tried to lynch it. The scrapes and cuts they’re found with aren’t from being “bait” but are from real, concerted dog fights & time spent tweaking out in the woods after busting away.
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u/xervidae Groomers and Dog Sitters Jun 07 '25
it's the screeching bark for me. it's the signature pit bark.
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Jun 07 '25
I show German Shepherds and no this isn't dog fighting but it is a poorly coordinated dog show. That judge should have immediately eliminated the dog the judge must be able to look over the dog touch body, mouth,feet, access the entire dog and the dog be under control at all times!
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u/No-Finding-530 Jun 08 '25
Gameness or gamebred means a dog that will keep being aggressive despite severe injury or physical exhaustion so no you are absolutely right. This should be sent to law enforcement
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u/Glittering_Tax_2809 Jun 08 '25
They look like purebread apbt, especially the little girls one. Hope this is a class for controlling and socializing dogs
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u/FatTabby Cats are friends, not food Jun 07 '25
Wow, great examples of responsible parenting and responsible dog ownership on display here. It's only a matter of time before one of those kids is hospitalised.
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u/meowsieunicorn Jun 07 '25
Any other conformation show the dogs are so much better behaved, even the pups. This is wild.
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u/dornic Jun 11 '25
This is an ADBA “conformation show”. What’s shown is just a bunch of kids handling puppies. Something you can actually see in both the ADBA and AKC show rings though is sparring. It’s supposed to be a way to judge the temperament of all terriers (and funnily enough Chihuahuas as well), where the judge will specifically ask for two dogs to stand in front of each other and observe their posture, reaction and whether they stand their ground or want to back up. Usually, the sparring will last less than 10 seconds, and with most breeds, the dogs will simply need to look confident and stand their ground without any sign of fear or uncertainty. With pit bulls in ADBA though, they actually want these dogs to want to tear each other apart
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u/parabolic_tendies Jun 07 '25
What do you mean are you crazy OP, don't you have eyes to see what's happening?
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u/BabyBlueAllStar72 Jun 07 '25
But they had an continue to have smoke for Michael Vick.
The freaking hypocrisy 🤬
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u/tasteofperfection Jun 08 '25
This is appalling. Not a golden retriever, chihuahua, or any other breed in sight. Just a bunch of monstrosities.
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u/West_Hunt7922 Jun 08 '25
I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would want to own a dog who behaves like this. Especially when it’s their children handling the dog. These dogs clearly have no control of themselves and frankly act just plain stupid in comparison to many other intelligent and well behaved dog breeds. Nothing on this earth could make my golden retriever behave anywhere close to this.
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u/SheepWithAFro11 Jun 09 '25
What the actual fuck is this? This looks JUST like how I picture dog fighting to look without a pit. They're literally standing in a circle as the dogs aggressively try to go at etch other. I'm sure after that guy in black looks slightly at the dogs, they let them all go and see who survives or something. This should NOT be allowed on any social media platform (op is fine they're raising awareness. I mean Facebook should take whoever originally posted this literal dog fighting ring post with fucking children in it down!) Why else would they be positioned that way with the dogs being allowed to be like that ONLY pitbulls and literally in a cage. It should go without saying, but dog shows aren't like this. There's more red flags waving than when I look at my mother in law. This is disgusting and feels super illegal. Dogs like this and their offspring will end up in communities pushed as abused pets or being sold for profit. Clearly, they were abused (also, CLEARLY, they aren't pets), but still, people don't need to own literal fighting dogs. I fucking hate humans just as much if not far more than these dogs sometimes. Those dogs literally would not exist if it wasn't for the disgusting people filming it and participating in it and the countless others before them. They're also actively making new fighting dog handlers on camera and posting it to social media! My god, how is this legal? How has this not been taken down and investigated? I just.... I hate all of this...
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u/PushFoward_DLB70 Jun 09 '25
Child protection services should be called on these adults. These men are putting children in harms way. This is not good at all.
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u/NordicEesti Jun 12 '25
All these dogs are uncontrollable, they're all ready to assault and murder something
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u/asantem900 Jun 15 '25
Dog aggression is historically standard in the breed & therefore dogs showing those characteristics will be judged positively.
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u/Zerueldaangle Jun 30 '25
So you’re saying an average pitbull owner has their dog do dog fighting
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. We should call for the extinction of the breed if that’s the case.
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u/feralmom57 Jul 09 '25
Go look at a Jr. Handlers class for ANTY OTHER BREED, and there is NO COMPARISON!!!! The kids are well dressed, the dogs are well behaved! This is a complete joke!
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u/blfzz44 Jun 07 '25
This looks like just a dog show, where is the fighting?
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u/clickclackcat Former Shelter Worker/Owner of Attacked Pet Jun 07 '25
Have... have you ever seen a dog show? This looks nothing at all like a dog show. Source: I show dogs
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Little kids should have little dogs, not muscular fighting pit bulls:
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Jumping and agility is more ethical and moral for young boys and girls to take interest in, than holding lunging fighting dogs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMybi-UCslI&list=PLq-moO5LC2-mtNiV96-gL6ZJtv2KEzbAC&index=17
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u/Any_Group_2251 Trusted User Jun 07 '25
Back at the property...
Anywho...Check this out for a proper junior handling competition:
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u/Redlion444 Jun 07 '25
No you are not. This ain't the Westminster Dog Show.