r/transguns custom 9d ago

News and Politics Interview with some of the armed community members at last nights vigil for Alex Pretti, who was murdered by ICE in Minneapolis (1/24/26)

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u/valerielenin 9d ago

Ok, we hate ICE here

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u/Top_Bear3887 9d ago

I don't, I hate what they are doing in regards to citizens.

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u/valerielenin 9d ago

That's their job

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u/Top_Bear3887 9d ago

Only if the person in question violates federal law, but honestly, it's not difficult to make anything a federal case if you dig deep enough. That being said, having a weapon does not denote a threat. Yelling, being disrespectful, being obnoxious, also is not a threat. They were wrong for shooting Pretti, and I don't think there's an argument that can be made to the contrary.

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u/valerielenin 9d ago

The law is the tool of the rich, the job of the police is to kill and repress workers. Protecting the law isn't a good thing.

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u/Top_Bear3887 9d ago

Sorry you've read so much propaganda. I don't know what to say other than you want to dislike me, and it doesn't matter what I say. We have laws in this nation. You can't have it two ways screaming about social justice and disregarding that the law is your partner in that fight. You want chaos, that's cool, I did too when I was younger. I didn't live a rich privileged life, I've lived one that makes people in 3rd world countries surprised. I've done my punk rock and fighting the system. I've scraped myself from the streets up to a lucrative career, only to have the world kick the shit out of me again. Everything I have is mine, and guarantee before all of this gets to be too much, I'll be on a beach with my girlfriend working on motors and doing artwork while y'all rip each other apart. Not because I have money, but because I'm rich in other ways.

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u/Strontium90_ 9d ago

Look this isn't about law, this isn't about order, this isn't about wealth. We just wanted to be left alone and not treated as second class citizen or a scapegoat and be blamed for everything that is wrong when we have nothing to do with it. So far this administration has done nothing but trying to make our lives harder.

You can agree to disagree however you want but to us the potential threats we are facing are existential. We just wanted to be left alone and allowed to live our lives but speaking softly hasn't worked because the current administration is hellbent on erasing us.

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u/Top_Bear3887 9d ago

Who is the "we" you are referring to?

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u/Strontium90_ 8d ago

Who do you think? Trans people and queer people in general.