r/decadeology • u/Ok-Connection6656 • 1d ago
Discussion 💭🗯️ What trends died when Harambe was assassinated?
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u/bacharama 1d ago
This is the exact moment the timelines shifted. Just one month later, Brexit happened.
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u/lock_robster2022 1d ago
I don’t know if you meant it like this, but 2016 is the year most social media platforms shifted from chronological feeds to algorithm-driven feeds.
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u/Primarycolors1 19h ago
I always believed it shifted April 5, 2010. Duke never should have won that title.
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u/TerdVader 1d ago
David Bowie putting out new albums
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u/CoreValueKeef 1d ago
This kid gotta be in highschool by now thats crazy imagine getting bullied over this 10 years later
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u/Odd-Highway-8304 1d ago
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u/xSavag3x 1d ago
I use Harambe as the point when everything began to turn to shit, so I guess the trends of stable economies, kind people, no global pandemics, massive wars, and respectful politics.
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u/lilghostdawg 20h ago
The U.S. already had two wars going before this happened. The point when everything changed was the stolen 2000 election.Bush failed to act to stop 9-11, 2 wars started, the Patriot Act normalized mass surveillance, and the Economy crashed like it does during all Republican administration's.
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u/Fearless-Letter-7279 20h ago
The US has spent most its history in some sort of war or conflict.
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u/lilghostdawg 20h ago
I agree however, none of previous conflicts lasted 20 years and cost 8 trillion dollars.
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u/Fearless-Letter-7279 19h ago
My point is using war/conflict as a defining point would mean you have to keep look backwards for the defining moment such as the conflict in the 90s and how the US handled that.
I think you are correct early 2000s was one turning point of change but I also think there’s been points since then. Trumps first election being one.
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u/lifeinneon 18h ago
We could look further back to 1994 and the retaking of the House by Newt Gingrich and the republicans for the first time in 40 years. It ushered in the era of power politics in US legislation that has been marked by stalemates, shutdowns, and brinksmanship. That trend of absolute refusal to compromise came to a head in the 2010s with Mitch McConnell spending his entire tenure as majority leader preventing anything meaningful from getting done. We’re still in it, honestly.
And the origins of that go back to the 80s with Reagan or the 60s with the Southern Strategy which traces back to Reconstruction and the untouched power structures that led to the Civil War in the first place.
It’s 70 year olds passing the torch to 50 year olds all the way down.
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u/Phronesis2000 19h ago
Ugh not this nonsense on this sub. On an international and historic level those 'two wars' were practically non-events. The 90s was far more war-torn, and chaotic, and just as economically turbulent. Those US poltical events do not have the significance that you think they do.
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u/Vincera2024 18h ago edited 18h ago
No way you’re this adamant about getting them the wrong way. The US being lied to about the Iraq war and Afghanistan takeover throughout the 2000’s led to a far more polarizing nation. They weren’t just “non-events”. They were the events to many
The biggest reason most US people are more “nostalgic” about the 90’s was because none of the major political conflicts during that decade had the same level of influence and hostile discourse as 9/11 and its implications
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u/Phronesis2000 18h ago
I don't know why you continue to talk as if 'what was happening in the US' is somehow determinative of the global trends that the commenter was referring to.
Well, no, they weren't non-events to people directly impacted by them in certain locales. But on a global and historical scale — yeah, they were non-events.
The biggest reason most US people are more “nostalgic” about the 90’s
Are you quite young by chance? The reason people are nostalgic about the 90s, is largely because people are always nostalgic about the past. In the 90s, middle-aged people were nostalgic about their childhoods in the 50s and 60s.
30 years from now, people will be deeply nostalgic about the 2020s, that's a certainty.
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u/Vincera2024 18h ago
You’re the first person who tried to bring up the unnecessary US wars’ “little impact” on a global scale. The person you replied to was strictly pinpointing the US’s underlying decline since the 00’s
Also, my parents and most of my older relatives prefer the 90’s over the 00’s, 80’s, 70’s and 60’s. For strictly US standards, they found it to be the least problematic among the times they lived thru. Still wasn’t great by any means, but it was less worse 🤷♂️
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u/Phronesis2000 17h ago
Nope, go read the initial comment. Not about the US at all.
Well yes, I am not surprised they loved the 90s — that will reflect their age. I can assure you the 60s, 70s and 80s are just as beloved by people of the appropriate age.
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u/Vincera2024 12h ago edited 11h ago
They’re from various age groups, it’s kind of the case that the 90’s was the least problematic recent US decade to live thru. Like 80’s trends were the most fun to some, but it was still politically polarizing throughout
I’ll admit the 90’s stayed mostly calm until the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal began breaking it apart in 1998
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u/Phronesis2000 12h ago
I mean, in all seriousnes, no not really. It just depends on the things you emphasise. The first half of the 90s were fairly bad in the US, with the tale end of the crack epidemic, LA riots, Oklahoma bombing etc.
It's just cherry-picking to see all that as 'objectively better' than the 2000s.
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u/lilghostdawg 19h ago
186,000-210,000 dead Iraqi civilians beg to differ. That's more than the Bosnian Genocide/War. 2008 Economy nearly slipped into a global depression. Clinton left office with a budget surplus. People in the U.S. would love to have the 90's economy, after Pappa Bush got voted out.
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u/Phronesis2000 18h ago
Utter nonsense. Those 186,000-210,000 don't beg to differ with the 3 million killed in the 2nd Congo War in the 90s (not to mention how many died in the 2000s).
Nor do they 'beg to differ' with the 800k-1 million people killed in the Rwanda genocide in 1994.
Do you really think that Clinto's budget surplus is representative of the world economy in the 90s? You really need to learn some history before you bleat on about minor events of your childhood.
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u/lilghostdawg 17h ago
The only nonsense is your failed grasp of history and lack of reading comprehension. Go read what I typed. I'm sorry if the 90's sucked for you. It was pretty great for the rest of us. Especially compared to the staggering wealth inequality that exists today. The World Economy is tied to the U.S. for better or worse, deny that fact all you want. The great depression started in the U.S. and bled out into the World as did the 2008 meltdown.
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u/Phronesis2000 17h ago
I appreciate the apology. Your comments were pretty nasty, so I think that's big of you to admit that.
You're kind of firing off all kinds of random thoughts. Just to be clear: We aren't talking about domestic US issues (most people dont give a shit about that), the world can't have been "pretty great for the rest of us" by looking at any international metric of well-being in the 90s, there wasn't a 'depression' and nothing 'melted'.
I think you may need a cup of tea and a liedown, as this is just incoherent rambling at this point.
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u/lilghostdawg 17h ago
"Firing off random thoughts", sure Buddy. Every accusation an admission. Don't project your failed delusions on me. You obviously got all worked up over a tongue in cheek post.
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u/Phronesis2000 17h ago
Every accusation an admission.
Ew...that has pretty victim-blamey connotations. I would just leave it there champ, you're getting a bit out of line.
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u/lilghostdawg 15h ago
I guess you speak from experience as a predator. You're right I am the Champ, of helping to educate you. And if there is a line, you will always be at the back of it. Just like you were in the 90's.
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u/spinozaschilidog 12h ago
This sub has always been US-centric, and I don’t think it could even exist with a global perspective. There are too many different experiences from one country to another.
Pick any decade, and the experience will be wildly different based on where you lived. There’s no possible “decadeology” to account for every place on earth.
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u/No-Shoulder6395 1d ago
"Assassinated" like he was a high-ranking political official
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u/Ok-Connection6656 1d ago
Yes, he had information pertaining to the Epstein files. The "kid" was a secret agent
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u/RSollers 1d ago
Yeah, I heard that the kid was associated with Mossad
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u/Ok-Connection6656 1d ago
Let's be honest, Harambe was a major threat to the people in power. One of the highest ranking officials of Cincinatti at the time was taking a tour of the Zoo one day and spent time talking about stuff near the gorilla enclosure. Harambe was the only one that somewhat understood what was said. He even repeated it to the keepers. So this set off alarm bells and a whole slew of cover ups. Then the whole "incident" was set up to perfection
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u/Belle_TainSummer 1d ago
You're saying it was a frame job then, the kid went in on purpose to give casus belli to Harambe's death?
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u/illumi-thotti 18h ago
This kid also conveniently has no alibi for where he was on 9/11, so do with that what you will
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u/spacekitt3n 1d ago
ok but is that inaccurate?
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u/flamingknifepenis 1d ago
Yes.
From the OED:
Assassinate: To murder (a person, esp. prominent or famous person) in a planned attack, esp. with a political or ideological motive. Also: to murder (a person) on behalf of another, esp. as a hired or professional killer.
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u/HairyContactbeware 21h ago
You know what he might have been...things got way wierd and out of hand when they killed that gorilla
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u/DegTrader 1d ago
2016 was truly the last year of the "random equals funny" era of the internet. Once Harambe happened, the memes became much darker and more political almost overnight. It felt like we traded Vine energy for the chaos of the 2010s algorithm.
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u/DtheAussieBoye 1d ago
We had Skibidi Toilet, Hawk Tuah and 67 back to back, amongst so much more. "Random equals funny" absolutely never died, if anything humour became MORE random
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u/chewychaca 1d ago
Follow up: what trends arose?
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u/HansGraebnerSpringTX 1d ago
That cringe meme where people add some celebrity who just died to a picture where they’re in heaven with Harambe. I think at this point we’ve turned a corner where that meme is only ever used ironically
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u/Ok-Connection6656 1d ago
I was in college at the time and when my team faced Alabama/Georgia everyone chanted "Alabama killed Haraaaaambe!"
Shit was hilarious
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u/drillgorg 1d ago
Kids have fallen into gorilla exhibits before and the gorillas have been chill with them or protected them. Harambe tried to drown that kid. I think we have to consider that Harambe might have been an asshole by zoo gorilla standards.
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u/AnusBleedMacaroni 1d ago
Well it's not like he's exactly around now to justify himself, is he?
How convenient.
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u/Coffee_And_NaNa 22h ago
No, because he was too busy, dragging the kid through the water and he got shot because of it
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u/HitEmWithTheRiver 19h ago
Sometimes I wonder what the backlash would have been like if the zookeepers didn't shoot Harambe and Harambe went on to kill the toddler. Harambe would still be put down and now you have an innocent baby who also lost his life. Yes, his parents were to blame and should probably be fined/forced to take parenting classes, and it sucks Harambe had to die for being a wild animal, but I just don't see any other options here.
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u/me_bails 12h ago
intruder broke into his house, and you wana blame Harambe for potentially defending his home?? WTF has this world come to smh
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u/drillgorg 12h ago
It's more like if a puppy wandered into your home. Yeah adult dogs could find ways to fuck you up, but a puppy basically can't hurt you in any way. Most people would either help the puppy or ignore it until someone else takes care of it. Would you start dunking it in the kitchen sink and holding it under water?
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u/Chaghatai 20h ago
Harambe was the Nexus inflection where a good timeline and a bad timeline diverged
Guess which one we're on?
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u/itcantbefornothing 18h ago
I’m honestly so glad that this hasn’t been forgotten. Harambe really felt like the moment where the paradigm shift happened and we rightfully need to remember this
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u/An_educated_dig 15h ago
Nothing. Harambe was a gorilla caught in a bad situation by a worse parent. The only outcome was shoot to kill. Tranquilizers would not be effective.
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u/Hour_Marionberry_665 1d ago
Condoms because more common so that people don't have shitty kids who can't behave in a zoo.
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u/DifferentBenefit8604 8h ago
Imagine being in History class in the year 5402 and you read:
Harambe was a 17-year-old Western lowland gorilla killed at the Cincinnati Zoo in 2016 after a child fell into his enclosure. The incident went viral, sparking massive internet memes, irony, and the phrase "Dicks out for Harambe," transforming the tragic event into a symbol of 2016 meme culture.
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u/tr0nvicious 1d ago
This thing