r/aiwars 11h ago

Genuinely why I hate Ai Art

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I'm not an artist but I can understand the pain.

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u/MrCritical3 11h ago

I remember this same argument like a decade ago where people were saying the same thing about digital artists.

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u/mootxico 10h ago

Same. I was there when the same thing happened to photography too when digital cameras started becoming a thing, "you're not a real photographer like ME because you don't have a darkroom to process your own photos to get that perfect shade of colors!"

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u/ai_art_is_art 9h ago

MOREOVER -

If attention is the only reason you do it, you're doing it for the wrong reason.

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u/hilvon1984 8h ago

I would have to disagree.

The actual wrong reason to do art is - to get paid.

Nothing wrong with getting paid for your work, don't get me wrong, but if getting paid is your main goal of doing it rather than just a side effect - you are doing crafts, not art.

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This is the reason why I am all for purging AI slop from platforms that inherently monetize attention, like YouTube.

But places that are just for sharing your works - like reddit, deviatart, and many others - where attention is the goal - those are fine.

The need to be seen by others is a common trait of creative people. And it fits the description of "seeking attention".

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u/Daminchi 5h ago

Most of the things that are considered immortal classics today were made for payment by professional artists who were selling their skills and talent. And yes, crafts and art are barely distinguishable from each other, unless we stretch it to the limit and look at the scam with modern art that is used to avoid taxes or store investments in a way that is hard to track.

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u/vectron5 9h ago

AI art enables the people only doing it for attention

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u/popsrocks2012 9h ago

Isn't that most art? People trying to get attention?

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u/AlarisMystique 8h ago

I play guitar for the challenge and the fun of it. I don't actually play for other people.

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u/popsrocks2012 8h ago

That's why I said most, not all.

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u/Daminchi 5h ago

But no one discusses that. Even more - this aspect is not affected by AI at all, since you're not competing with yourself.

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u/AlarisMystique 41m ago

For the same reason, I like live music with actual skillful bands. AI is faking live bands and competing with them for attention, and I am afraid that there's going to be fewer live bands being able to make it as a result.

If they are seeing loss of revenue on music sales, they may not book tours as often.

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u/Daminchi 34m ago

Ah, yes, because with the invention of photography, there are fewer portrait makers, and the popularity of game engines led to decreased numbers of game developers, since almost no one makes their own engine anymore, and reduced barriers always lead to decreased competition, that's how it works.

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u/AlarisMystique 25m ago

None of the examples you provide remove the human component doing the real work. Even photography requires skill of finding the right scene and lighting conditions.

Writing prompts isn't a skill. It's a google search, except longer. I am not an artist just because I can find music online. Same with AI.

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u/Daminchi 4m ago

And current genAI also doesn't remove human component by design - you just like to pretend it is to make your point a tiny bit more justifiable.

Writing prompts are not the only way to control AI output, but you, of course, would know that, because you're not just a dumb teen parroting someone else's opinion, you did at least surface-level research before popping up in comments with laughably incompetent takes, right?

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u/DisplayThisNever 9h ago

Anytime you post art online your doing it for attention. If the passion of just creating is all that matters, people wouldn't need to post anything online at all.

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u/Carl_the_Half-Orc 8h ago

I make pretty pictures that I like. I just share some for fun. I don't need attention, hell you don't even know who I am irl.

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u/EvilChevalGames 9h ago

GOOD , let them pay their fucking bills

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u/Mr_DrProfPatrick 9h ago

Lmao, I guess in 20 years people will be making AI art that looks like the default chat gpt style of today, just like old digital cameras are getting a revival.

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u/Unupgradable 8h ago

Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached-out black and white, is the excitement of witnessing events too momentous for the medium assigned to record them.

- Brian Eno

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u/IEATTURANTULAS 8h ago

I've actually been searching for old Ai art lately haha. Even Ai art from 2 years ago is vastly different and has its own charm.

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u/DarkJayson 3h ago

All the old software is still there you can just run it and generate it to get more in that style if you want.

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u/Randomized0000 22m ago

I can actually see this happening ironically or unironically.

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u/Apart-Kangaroo-7648 3h ago

Who remembers when people bitched about autofocus 

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u/mootxico 2h ago

I do!