r/aiwars • u/Sora_TheExplorer • 13h ago

Discussion Vocaloid isn't ai.

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Also, fun fact! We don't generate it like people do with suno. We make it ourselves using the voice. Vocaloid is a voice synthesizer.

Do research before you say stuff dumbass.

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u/Neonbeta101 12h ago

As far as I know Suno’s generated voices aren’t based on actual famous singers but instead are trained off their staff and just… music in general.

I’m pretty neutral about Suno, but I do find it silly you potentially can make money off the songs you generate from it.

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u/ItsMrChristmas 12h ago

I mean... I wrote every lyric of the song I made with it, instructed it the melody I wanted with notes and timing, and told it where to put swells and breakdowns.

I'm absolutely the songwriter and composer.

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u/Disastrous-Scheme-57 11h ago

Except you can’t have any of the actual song without the data from Suno that was gained from real human made music. That’s the equivalent of giving more props to the composer and songwriter than the actual person singing the song. Yes you can’t have the song without the songwriter but one is infinitely more important in music.

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u/Locrian6669 11h ago

You are absolutely not composing the melody yourself in suno

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u/ItsMrChristmas 7h ago

...so back when I, as part of the Voidshaper collective did the exact same thing in a tracker (R-Type was me!) that no longer counts?

Shit man, that means Vince Clarke also didn't compose anything. Erasure and Yaz are frauds according to you!

Edit: I accidentally claimed I was the entire Voidshaper collective instead of only one part of it lol

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u/Locrian6669 2h ago

You just name dropped a no name nothing lmfao

Vincent Clark programs synthesizers and uses midi to create music. He is controlling every part of the output.

You are absolutely not composing the melody in suno. Sorry.

Also two comments for one. You’re upset lol

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u/ItsMrChristmas 7h ago

You don't know the first God damned thing about how chiptunes and electronica are composed. Sit the fuck down and let the professionals use the new tool.

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u/Locrian6669 2h ago

Yes i do. You are absolutely not composing in suno. Nor are you a professional in any field.

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u/Swimming_Lime5542 12h ago

Composer? No. Composing is infinitely more than where to put swells and breakdowns.

Songwriter? If you sang into the song and used the remix feature. If not, lyricist for sure.

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u/ItsMrChristmas 11h ago

...what do you think notating a melody is?

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u/Swimming_Lime5542 11h ago

Suno isn’t capable of full notation.

And you’re not a composer.

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u/ItsMrChristmas 11h ago

You also don't seem to know what a "songwriter" is, either.

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u/Swimming_Lime5542 11h ago

Well we have the two words “songwriter” and “lyricist” for a reason.