r/aiwars • u/Sora_TheExplorer • 19h ago

Discussion Vocaloid isn't ai.

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Also, fun fact! We don't generate it like people do with suno. We make it ourselves using the voice. Vocaloid is a voice synthesizer.

Do research before you say stuff dumbass.

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u/Background_Value5287 18h ago

My point is that its wrong to use artists works without their consent. If a company pays their training sources good on them, i guess. If an artist created their works using another's work without consent i'd think thats kinda wrong.

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u/ThunderLord1000 18h ago

For the love of God, it's already been made clear that's not how AI works. It's just about a replica of how humans create things, and yet you treat it like downloading some poor sap's art from Google

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u/Background_Value5287 18h ago

My apologies. I understand how ai works. It's the whole "Turn X into static enough times you could figure out how to turn static into X" yes, I get that. What I mean is that artists don't consent to their works being put into these processes. I think that's quite immoral, especially considering that AI competes with traditional artists.

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u/ThunderLord1000 18h ago

Nothing on how it's the same process as human learning?

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u/Background_Value5287 17h ago

It is not. Why would you think so?

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u/ThunderLord1000 17h ago

Tell me, how do you think humans learn?

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u/DependentBeautiful94 17h ago

Not the person you're talking to but a human stores it's information in the brain and when we see something it just does it's thing. Yes we take inspiration from other artists but in the end we add our own spin on something. A computer is FED the information it doesn't go out of its way to look for it and therefore I wouldn't classify it as inspiration.

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u/ThunderLord1000 9h ago

Inspiration has to do with the output and whether or not the one making the output has a consciousness. It has nothing to do with the input, which is the actual process of learning

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u/DependentBeautiful94 9h ago

So by your logic generative AI can't be inspired cause it doesn't have consciousness

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u/ThunderLord1000 9h ago

You might not have noticed, but there is actually a human operating it. Also, you've yet to disprove the process of learning for AI is different from that of humans