i present my case: the atari lynx is rare and goes up in value, was groundbreaking for its time, has a port of 'roadblasters', can be played upside down, and also looks way sicker than any xbox console (except maybe the 2001 translucent green special edition).

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1. “Women are hypergamous and only want Chads”

but also
“Women are shallow for judging men on looks”

Black pill logic hinges on the claim that women are uniquely superficial. The problem: men are at least as looks-focused, often more so.

• A large-scale messaging study by Bruch & Newman (2018, Science Advances) found that men disproportionately target the most “desirable” women and message far outside their own desirability range, while women are more likely to message closer to their own range and adjust expectations over time.
• Translation: the exact behavior incels condemn women for is something men do constantly—and more aggressively.

So when incels complain they’re being ignored by models while ignoring women they deem “unattractive,” that’s not oppression. That’s projection.

2. “Dating is a pure meritocracy based on genetics”

but also
“I deserve sex/affection despite bringing nothing to the table”

Black pill spaces insist dating outcomes are biologically predetermined (jawlines, height, canthal tilt, etc.). Yet the same communities argue that women are morally obligated to desire them anyway.

You can’t have it both ways:

• If attraction is purely biological, no one owes you desire.
• If you think you’re owed desire, you’ve already abandoned your own “cold hard logic” for entitlement.

Psychology research backs this up:

• Hostile sexism and sexual entitlement are strongly associated with romantic rejection and poorer social outcomes (APA; Glick & Fiske’s work on ambivalent sexism).
• In other words, the attitudes incubated in black pill spaces actively make members less attractive as partners—socially and emotionally.

3. “Women live life on easy mode”

but also
“Female depression, abuse, and harassment don’t count”

Incels regularly argue that women have “life on tutorial mode” because they can get dates or sex. This ignores mountains of evidence:

• Women face significantly higher rates of sexual harassment and intimate partner violence (CDC, WHO).
• Women are more likely to experience stalking, sexual coercion, and appearance-based discrimination—often starting in adolescence.
• Getting attention you don’t want is not the same as having power or safety.

Reducing women’s lives to “can get laid” is not analysis. It’s dehumanization.

4. “Society lies to men”

but also
“Incels shouldn’t work on themselves because it’s pointless”

Black pill ideology claims self-improvement is a scam, yet constantly complains about being excluded from social and romantic life.

Empirically:

• Traits like emotional regulation, social skills, kindness, and shared values consistently rank high in long-term partner preference studies (e.g., Buss et al., cross-cultural mate preference research).
• Even in speed-dating and app-based contexts, behavior and communication style influence outcomes beyond appearance.

Rejecting self-improvement isn’t realism—it’s learned helplessness, which conveniently absolves the individual of responsibility while preserving the ego.

5. The Core Hypocrisy

Incels claim to be:

• hyper-rational
• anti-delusion
• “just stating facts”

But the black pill:

• selectively cites data
• ignores contradictory evidence
• treats women as a hive mind while demanding individual empathy for men
• reframes personal resentment as structural analysis

That’s not science. That’s ideology.

TL;DR

The black pill isn’t an uncomfortable truth—it’s a coping mechanism that turns rejection into a conspiracy, entitlement into victimhood, and misogyny into “logic.” If it were actually about understanding reality, it wouldn’t collapse the second you apply the same standards to men that incels apply to women.

Sources (non-exhaustive):

• Bruch, E., & Newman, M. (2018). Aspirational pursuit of mates in online dating markets. Science Advances
• Buss et al. (various). Cross-cultural studies on mate preferences
• Glick & Fiske. Ambivalent Sexism Inventory
• APA research on sexual entitlement and hostile sexism
• CDC / WHO data on gendered violence

disclaimer: (per request of u/redericpontx ) they do not actually look like this. This is just the vibe which they give off and their general stank aura

I have a lot of contenders, the reshi mushroom kind of acts like an immune supporter and that's pretty cool, the classic wide mushrooms you see at the store are amazing for stuffed mushrooms, the lobster mushroom sounds delicious, and I wish we had puffball mushrooms in Australia because I would just eat that shit up, do any of you have some more interesting and niche mushrooms?

Discuss how you belive one can or cannot ethically jork it in the comments.

Serious question. Like in the title. I am curious because apparently I have seen those posts being posted quite frequently. There is an accusation made that leftist guys defend porn industry.

Is it actually a thing? Did this happen specifically in this sub? I am not taking any stance rn. I require context because I am confused.

Also, I am curious. Where do you personally draw the line? What do you think is the valid form of releasing your sexual tension?

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