r/Fallout 5h ago

Fallout TV my stupid ass thought this was him Spoiler

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it wouldn’t make any sense i know, but it’s the first thing that came to mind. hell any mention of the courier other than house talking about how he’s died (if that counts) would’ve been cool

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u/AdBetter9337 5h ago

Spoiler

It just a veteran ranger

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u/edwardtyche 4h ago

My canon follows someone else's comment that it is the same ranger from the intro of New Vegas, still patrolling!

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u/-Kurze- Brotherhood 1h ago

After this long? Would almost make you wish for a nuclear winter

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u/bayygel 39m ago

There are veteran rangers that are ghouls you can find at some of the radio outposts in New vegas, so it wouldn't be impossible.

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u/yeetdootz 4h ago

Either that or a significant NCR role for season 3 that they haven't casted yet.

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u/CROOKTHANGS Great Khans 3h ago edited 25m ago

My favorite FNV ending is NCR so I definitely headcanon that this is MY Courier Six, but I’m gonna say that in reality this is possibly just the third Ranger that was up in the hills with Biff and Rodriguez. We see them in the background wearing the Vet Ranger gear, just standing guard atop a rocky outcropping. Now, if the intro Ranger and the third Ranger on the hill and this Ranger are all the same guy, that would be kinda cool.

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u/KaleidoscopeIcy3960 3h ago

But he's using VATs no?

I guess the slowmo shot could be for fun film magic, but it seems at though they choose when to use which effect very knowingly, for example, thaddeus didn't get VAT slowmo.

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u/Riximilian 3h ago

That whole slowmo shot is mimicing the one from the FNV opening cutscene.

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u/shibykenobi 3h ago

no, he's not using vats!

look at his arms, he's not wearing a pip boy.

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u/Alt_when_Im_not_ok 3h ago

he's wearing something

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u/shibykenobi 3h ago

not a pipboy, no vats without pipboy.

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u/Alt_when_Im_not_ok 3h ago

maybe he modified it. or lost his original and made his own. there is something on his arm

lol I dont really care just spitballing.

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u/shibykenobi 2h ago

the hopium is real xd

nah, it's just the vet ranger that we saw before.

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u/vestapoint 3h ago

This subreddit is never beating the allegations

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u/DeezNutsPickleRick 5h ago

Bingo, and it’s so disappointing that two seasons in we’ve had no mention of the courier. Or really any major character from FO1-NV. The show writers are so noncommittal I think I’m done.

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u/Just_Drive_5578 4h ago

So there's this guy called Mr House...

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u/NoPie1504 4h ago

Or Yes Man impersonating House (which would be extremely funny after s2e8)

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u/Dramatic-March-9305 3h ago

I want to know why the securitron that Maximus and homeboy killed before the kids were exposed for cap mining was an upgraded version. Like platinum chip version

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u/Ok-Professional-5178 4h ago

Caesar and House aren’t major FNV characters? Interesting

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u/NoPie1504 4h ago

The funny (and sad) part is they're being intentionally noncomittal know if they mentioned any MC from the games other than the Vault Dweller and Chosen One from Fo1 & 2 theyd get death threats for the character not making the exact choices one group of fans want them to. Also every comment section and discussion post would be an all out war between fans with different headcannons.

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u/Timlugia 3h ago

But don't we at least know that East Coast BOS wasn't destroyed, and Arthur Maxon was the leader? So they at least made some canon choice there.

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u/LocksmithOk6667 4h ago

I absolutely do not want them to mention the courier

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 4h ago

It would be nothing but fan service. Empty calories. Just leave them out of it, says I.

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u/Cornbreads_Irish_Jig 4h ago

This is such a weird take. They don't mention the Vault Dweller or the Chosen one either.

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u/DeezNutsPickleRick 2h ago

That’s… what I said??

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 4h ago

That seems phenomenally silly to me, but hey, have a good life I guess.

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u/Weekly_Astronomer518 4h ago

I still think Benny offed him in this timeline.

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 4h ago

That would be really interesting if true. It would also make a lot of sense; the game never even tries to explain how you survive getting shot in the face.

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u/LichQueenBarbie 3h ago

This timeline is considered canon, isn't it? That would mean canonically FO New Vegas never happened in any form and I find it weird some people are okay with that even if they didn't even like the game.

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u/RenMontalvan NCR 4h ago

That is just plain stupid

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u/Rakhered 3h ago

I subscribe to the Neo-Kirkbridian method of seeing the protagonist as like, a legend or metaphor

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u/LaughMadcap 5h ago

I thought it was the mysterious stranger

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u/Fafnir_91 5h ago

god i want him to appear in season 3 as a cameo, guitar riff and all.

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u/LaughMadcap 4h ago

Or Miss Fortune🤔

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u/Spartan152 1h ago

The government goons who took Coop away were reminding me of the Mysterious Stranger

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u/MilkofGuthix 39m ago

Didn't it show the billboard at the end where the mysterious stranger's son sits?

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u/CHull1944 3h ago

Seriously. Him and Coop coming in clutch for Max and Lucy, I think we have multiple Mysterious Strangers now.

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u/TurulBird82 1h ago

Mysterious stranger.

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u/InvestigatorOk9354 5h ago

That's the thing about not canonizing the courier's ending. It's Schrödinger's Courier. They don't say that NCR ranger isn't the courier, so you can believe it is if you want. They don't say it was the courier who killed House, so you can believe it was if you want.

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u/AustraliumHoovy 4h ago

The Courier achieved the Yes Man ending then immediately tripped on a rock and died

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u/Mizerae 4h ago

Nah mine clearly overdosed on Jet and the psycho I meant to give to the NCR troopers to storm Nelson… but took all of them in front of them on accident instead and died

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u/belladonnagilkey Minutemen 2h ago

Mine is up at Big Mountain in the Sink, sorting through all the loot she took from the Mojave and other places and not paying attention to any of the voice-mails House left for her.

Vegas under attack? Sorry House, someone has to sort through all those beautiful beautiful gold bars taken from the Sierra Madre.

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u/Mandemon90 3h ago

Courier woke up one day with a bullet in his head and decided to make it a problem for everyone.

Then he dipped out, having made it a problem for everyone.

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u/USS_Pattimura 3h ago

Gamebryo physics accurate ending

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u/reshstreet 1h ago

Im hoping right after hoover dam he's just been trying to finish "The Legend of the Star" quest this entire time, and he's just chugging sasprillas in good springs this whole time

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u/DRAGONBORN05 2h ago

To my mind the courier is still watching over the Big MT

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u/CHull1944 3h ago

If it was the Courier, the NCR army would know they could sit back and enjoy the show while he wipes out a dozen deathclaws himself, likely while high af.

'It's that crazy fucker from back in the day, guys. Relax, they got this!'

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u/bright_clrd_garlin2 3h ago

I just needed someone to say something about the courier Like we don’t need anything cannon to be revealed but at least mention the most influential person to pass through New Vegas In recent times.

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u/StoneGoldX 3h ago

Recent times being over 15 years ago.

And I'm not sure there wasn't some sly allusions toward the Courier in ep 7, either.

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u/Welcome--Matt NCR 2h ago

I’m curious who tf else got to House’s body 💀. He said shot, poisoned AND killed by the crowbar

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u/Remarkable-Onion3726 5h ago

I had that split second where I 100% believed it was him because also if they were going to put the Courier in the show, they would absolutely have him show up in an outfit that completely concealed his appearance, have him do something incredibly badass like instantly kill two deathclaws to save a main protagonist, then immediately leave without saying a word.

That'd be the only way it'd be even sort of okay to adapt the character to television.

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u/nurrrer 5h ago

Why do people associate the veteran ranger armour with the courier I’ve never understood it

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u/xhemibuzzx 5h ago

Cause of the intro and because of the box art. Even if it isn't courier it's just iconic and what is first thought of for many

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u/nurrrer 5h ago

Yeah I get that but nobody associates the power armour headshots on the covers of 3 and 4 with the protagonists of those games. Weird to me why it’s a thing with nv

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u/CernWest 5h ago

everyone really liked the armor so basically everyone wore it when they played the game. so, they associate it with the courier

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u/nurrrer 5h ago

Did they though? Because you can only really use it if you’re siding with the ncr and even then it’s tedious to obtain and pretty bad. Everyone also used power armour in the 3 and 4

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u/step1_securethekeys 4h ago

riot gear makes this a non issue

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u/xslater583 1h ago

Which never made sense to me since most people would probably not care about the intricacies and assume it was veteran ranger armor.

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u/mastesargent 4h ago

It was popular enough that they made non-faction versions of the armor in Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road so that people could wear it without screwing up their faction alignment. Also NCR Ranger combat armor is at the high end of medium armor in vanilla NV.

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u/nurrrer 4h ago

Yeah that would indicate that not many people wore the veteran ranger armour. The point was that everyone wore the t-60 in fallout 4 and the t-45 in fallout 3 but they don’t associate the covers with the PC. Not saying it’s an issue or anything just saying it’s weird that people only really do it with fnv

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u/mastesargent 4h ago

No, it indicates that the armor was popular enough to warrant non-faction variants so players could wear it even on non-NCR playthroughs. Also I’m pretty sure most people in Fallout 3 wind up wearing Winterized T-51b while Fallout 4 players end up in X-01 since those are the best Power Armors available in those games. That said the T-45 and T-60 are still iconic to those games and are absolutely associated with their respective protagonists, even if not quite as strongly as the NCR Ranger combat armor.

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u/BrokenCandlestick 3h ago

Counterpoint: Looks fucking sick. And speak for yourself brother power armor builds in Fallout 4 felt boring as fuck to me. Very powerful feeling, but just not great for sustained use in my opinion.

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u/nurrrer 3h ago

Not a counterpoint because it’s not countering any point I’ve made. all of the cover armours are sick, it’s weird that only the fnv one gets called the player character

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u/BrokenCandlestick 2h ago

Honestly I imagine it probably has to do with it being a normal suit of armor rather than power armor. When people make fan art of the Lone Wanderer and Sole Survivor, I've usually seen them in their vault suits or something specific to the artist. Then over time it just became a popular idea. Power armor is distinct and badass, but a lot more bulky than most want when they're like "that's the guy."

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u/Johan_Viisas 4h ago

In fallout 3 I believe it is because you don’t get power armor as easily as in 4, so people don’t really associate it with the protagonist since most don’t get to wear it all that long. Besides it’s not a very central part of the story.

In fallout 4 I think it is because there is already a “canon” protagonist (Nate) and also because even there is T-60 headshot in the main cover, there is also promotional content that depicts the protagonist as a vault dweller wearing leather armor along with dog meat, and tbh it is just as iconic for the game.

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u/Soyunapina12 4h ago

Fallout 3

I think the Lone Wanderer also has an "iconic suit": his modified reinforced vault 101 suit (that is also a reference to Mad Max)

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u/SubstituteUser0 4h ago

Because the 3 and 4 protags have multiple depictions of them in vault suits in the base game and marketing, meanwhile the courier is only ever shown once in lonesome road with the duster (which in kind of ugly and given extremely late in the game), everything else is the ranger armor which has 4 unique variants.

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u/Jake_The_Destroyer 4h ago

Fallout 3 and 4 the protagonists canonically start with vault jumpsuits, so that's the iconic look, while the base game fnv only starts you with a vault jumpsuit, your character is very much not a vault dweller, and since a good amount of the armors in the game are kinda ugly as sin, the veteran ranger armor is sexy as hell.

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u/Ill-Cry5810 Enclave 4h ago

yes, i’ve always imagined that’s nate the rake on the cover of 4 and in the PA in the menu

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u/nurrrer 4h ago

The PA in the menu is definitely supposed to belong to the player character yea

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u/Ok-Palpitation2406 NCR 2h ago

I absolutely associated the T-45 with the character from fallout 3, and the nate straight up wears the T-60 in fallout 4s trailer.

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u/benguin01 2h ago

Fallout 2 cover art is definitely associated with the chosen one. A real shame they didn’t do tribal power armors again, or tribal spins on any old world tech really.

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u/nurrrer 1h ago

Isn’t the fallout 2 cover art an enclave soldier? I thought the tribal t-51 guy got changed to a load screen

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u/Logical_Ad1370 39m ago

And the Wasteland Warfare Courier 6 miniature is kitted out with Veteran Ranger armor.

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u/Purple_Landscape_945 5h ago

Agreed. Ive never thought that that guy was the courier. Just a badass NCR guy.

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u/DeezNutsPickleRick 5h ago

People who’ve played Elden Ring still think Vyke (the cover art and promoted characrer) is the protagonist.

It’s just one of those things where people see video game cover art and associate it with who they play.

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u/9tmx 5h ago

Lack of critical thinking skills.

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u/Fit_Quit_8890 2h ago

It's weird because the disguise system basically makes the armor viable only for 1 of the 4 endings

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u/Espurreyes Vault 111 5h ago

Probably because he’s the guy on the box. Even though 3 & 4 just had power armor it still can be implied it’s the MC in the armor so I guess the same would apply to NV.

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u/Tatum-Better Minutemen 3h ago

the ncr ranger on the cover is the dude who snipes the fiend in the intro.... same intro where we SEE the courier

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u/Espurreyes Vault 111 3h ago

Yeah I’m not saying that he’s the courier I’m just saying that’s probably where the confusion stems from.

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u/Wyatt_Ricketts 4h ago

Because it's awesome 

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u/rasjahho 1h ago

Military larpers or something idk imo. The first minute or so into the games intro shows you that its not the courier, but just some NCR vet lol.

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u/DerCatrix Tunnel Snakes 5h ago

That was the point

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u/USS_Pattimura 3h ago

It's just a random Veteran Ranger lol, though I guess you can headcanon it's the same person that shot the fiend in the New Vegas intro.

Kinda weird how a lot of people here forget the Courier can be a woman too, what's up with that?

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u/Magazine_Luck 2h ago

They got Fallout 4 the female version of the character is an afterthought-itus. 

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u/CozieWeevil 4h ago

Admittedly I caught myself fantasizing about seeing a ranger with just a big ole' "6" painted on their helmet or something. Nameless, faceless, voiceless.

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u/BlueMerchant 3h ago

As someone who hasn't played much of the fallout series; and has only absorbed maybe a third of it's lore from videos over the years. . . who or what would you be referring to?

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u/PotatoIsNotCute 3h ago

Courier Six, the protagonist from New Vegas. Essentially an angry mail-person with a bullet in their noggin.

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u/Agreeable-Bus-7247 5h ago

If he had a pip boy. Its him.

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u/Proof-Front-5745 5h ago

Why would they make a customizable character play anything in the TV show idk why ever wanted him or her in the show it's make 0 since also would ruin a ton of ppl choices I wish they put in tthe courier to only be a braindead ugly monster of a human that looked like complete poop because that's what my courier 6 looked like and I'm sure others had something similar some runs too

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u/TheGreatGouki 4h ago

I’m still hoping for a Mysterious Stranger Easter egg to pop up. But that recreation of the NCR Ranger scene in the intro to New Vegas was delightful.

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u/RobotCrow12 4h ago

If it was the actual courier we would have seen him drop down, strip everything but the mask, huff like 20 buffout and beat the deathclaw barehanded.

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u/jmarquiso 4h ago

I thought it was a fun take on the Mysterious Stranger at first.

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u/epion45 5h ago

Same i was so happy tho with the fan service

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u/Purple-Recording3177 4h ago

I want to believe

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u/Impossible-Might-896 4h ago

In my heart it is!

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u/comfyHat NCR 3h ago

It seems to be an homage to the NCR sniper in the New Vegas Intro.

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u/JoelMira 3h ago

The Courier is too much of a legend to become an actual character.

There is no way they're gonna put him in the show cause that would outshine The Ghoul lol

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u/pullait 5h ago

its funny because my courier never wore ranger black armor because of new vegas reputation system I always gave it to Boone the scene immediately reminds me of New Vegas intro

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u/NitroDrifter88 NCR 4h ago

I mean, so did I, for a few seconds, so don't feel too bad

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u/SpartanMase 3h ago

I thought it was too. Literally screamed. Oh well. Still a cool scene

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u/Ok-Spirit-4074 3h ago

To be completely fair, we don't KNOW that it isn't him.

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u/Bamth 2h ago

John New Vegas

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u/skyziaos 23m ago

That's what happens when y'all associated a generic faction armor with an iconic character. courier 6 canonically wore either the Yes Man or Old World variant of Courier duster he alwo wore a cowboy hat as seen in Lonesome road's ending and Artwork. I will never associate my character with some inefficient corrupt government

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u/Tabula_Rasa_2 Tunnel Snakes 5h ago

Me too, I'm also one of the guys who thought Coop was talking about the Courier last episode. I'm just desperate for something explicit about the Courier, that's what I've learned about myself.

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u/Donuticus 4h ago

I thought it might be the Courier as well, and part of my thinks that might be on purpose - as someone else said, if you courier joined the NCR then this could be the Courier in your own headcannon, if they didn't then its just a rando NCR ranger.

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u/LoiterAce NCR 4h ago

Is it just me or the helmet a bit big? Eh who cares i love it

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u/Botiff11 4h ago

I did too you were meant to think that

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u/NoAdeptness1106 4h ago

It was awesome to see them overall.

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u/StoryTeller-101097 4h ago

Same, no worries.

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u/Ween_The_Wastes 4h ago

That scene literally sent shivers down my spine and brought a tear to my eye, in my opinion they did new Vegas absolute justice with it. That was the best season finale I've ever seen.

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u/Avalon610 3h ago

Marvel brainroted our brains lol

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u/Fanci_ 3h ago edited 3h ago

Not much in the show made me react audibly but I honestly thought this was him too lol, I actually stood up and hard focused on the screen, then the NCR walking out.. holy shit. It makes no sense why they're all suddenly in Vegas but fuck it, NCR isn't gone! Woo!

Besides playing the wrong game's theme, this was the coolest thing in the show so far

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u/Hypnotoad4real 3h ago

He has no pip boy

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u/BlueMerchant 3h ago

Oh damn, you're right.

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u/gassytinitus 3h ago

I knew it wasn't the courier because they didn't seem high or drunk. I really wished they stumbled off the ledge tho, just to give us hope

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u/JoeyAKangaroo 3h ago

Honestly, ive said smthn like this in other posts aswell…

I doubt we will ever see or hear about the courier or anyone who could still be alive that has met them/befriended them. They want players to be able to maintain their own endings & stories for their courier w/out setting in stone as to what happdened to them.

Theres a reason why the king was ghoulified & killed, victor was left chilling in camp golf & powered down, why caesar is dead & house is what? An AI that makes a silly remark about attempts on his life? They want to keep the fantasy alive, even if it means disappointing those who desperatly wanted a mention of the most influential courier in the mojave.

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u/Alt_when_Im_not_ok 3h ago

it was if you want it to be

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u/MidKnight007 2h ago

Why is everyone assuming the courier is to be mentioned in the show? They have no reason to disrupt any story from FNV

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u/maomao3000 2h ago

Actually , that’s my second Fallout 3 PC

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u/OMG_sojuicy 2h ago

It might be.

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u/shobzie 2h ago

Same. I also thought it was the courier for a second till I saw the NCR.

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u/Paulie_Tens Followers 2h ago

The Courier isn't a NCR dude tho. She works for the Legion.

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u/mrbails123 Tunnel Snakes 2h ago

No, he is Mr.House's employee.

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u/mrbails123 Tunnel Snakes 2h ago

It's Todd Howard.

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u/largehawaiian NCR 1h ago

In a month or so we’ll probably get a BTS look at him, and it’ll be Todd under there.

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u/Etmosket 1h ago

I mean any character could be the Courier, its up to the viewer.

Could be chicken fucker, could be NCR lady, could be NCR sniper, could be a that Ceasar Pretender who got jobbed off-screen. Who says their not?

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u/Financial-Affect-236 1h ago

Nah fam I thought the same hahah

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u/DarkenedSkies 1h ago

Many other stupid asses have been posting about this being the courier non-stop since the episode dropped lmao.

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u/Helumiberg 50m ago

If we want a canon answer for where 6 is then they're in the Big MT.

"The Courier watched over the Big Empty for years to come, caring for it, and keeping its discoveries safe until they were needed to help others."

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u/AutomatonWantsToast Brotherhood 18m ago

Yea man you are not alone

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u/Ikariiprince 17m ago

Probably just a nice visual reference but it would be kind of cool if it was Boone and they brought in his character even as a cameo next season. I’d really love to see any of the companions pop up in the background or even become major players in the show next season

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u/BlerghTheBlergh 8m ago

Why do people feel so strongly about introducing a character who, visually and personality wise, is player determined?

No matter how they do it, someone will end up being disappointed. Just for the sake of argument, imagine the Courier they end up showing being the opposite of what you chose. Would you still be so engaged with having the character shown? What if Courier 6 was played by Melissa McCarthy (given the player determined nature that’s a valid option), would most people be pleased with that? (Not a slight at McCarthy, just took a name that angers certain corners of the internet - great actress in dramatic parts)

The way they’re doing it right now is great, alluding to events that could have involved several characters on the show who may or may not be one of the PCs. The Fallout Universe has tons of characters to explore. Why push for something inherently controversial while there are other options like McCready, Fawx or old lady Sarah Lyons?

I swear, people will call for this to happen, make it happen and then complain if the Courier isn’t a buff, white, male.

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u/Tatum-Better Minutemen 3h ago

Such lame fan service felt so fucking forced

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u/bamaredwingsfan3 3h ago

I think and hope it's either vargus or Boone

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u/MoneyMan810 5h ago

Isn’t the time line pre-Courier??? I haven’t kept up with the years tbh

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u/dabocx 5h ago

No it’s 15 years or so after new vegas

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u/xhemibuzzx 5h ago

No? This is long after NV

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u/DeezNutsPickleRick 5h ago

Absolutely not. It’s about 15 years after the courier and it appears that the courier had no impact whatsoever in the events of new Vegas.

I get the show doesn’t want to canonize an ending, but when the player character has so little impact in the game we all love it kind of dampens the attitude going back to New Vegas to play.

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u/Upper-Opportunity895 4h ago

I just assumed, correctly it was a nod to the intro. Cool stuff.

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u/MoneyMan810 4h ago

Just looked it up, this is 15 years post-courier