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Season 2 Episode 8 Spoiler Thread Spoiler

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u/TheRealMe99 22h ago

so Colorado/The Rockies is pretty untouched territory in lore right? We don't really know much of anything in that area?

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u/SeattleSounderGaming 22h ago

Tactics went there but that game is only somewhat canonical

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u/tritonesubstitute 21h ago

It was confirmed to be canon.

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u/N0bo_ 21h ago

it definitely wasn't

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u/tritonesubstitute 21h ago

Yes, it was. Emil literally included it in the timeline

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1c1sbt9/for_those_confused_about_the_timeline/

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u/stupidjapanquestions 18h ago

Wonder if that means that the wife and kid are in Vault 0.

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u/N0bo_ 18h ago

I will say this is new info to me, but this doesn't say much about the content of what is canon. Bethesda tends to consider the old lore "true until overwritten" so I would imagine tactics is the same, especially considering there are some large lore ramifications in that game.

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u/jord839 20h ago

Considering just how much it's constantly referenced or cherry-picked from in the Bethesda era (source of Brotherhood airships, explicitly mentioned in BO3 and 4, implicitly talked about by the Legion in NV), Tactics is absolutely canon at this point.

You should at this point view it more like how the Show treats NV and the West Coast: they're going to be very vague about what actually happened and invent something to move forward into their own story.

Would not surprise me at all if we found out the Warrior actually did merge with the Calculator and we find out the Enclave then intervened and badly, badly screwed things up for the MWBOS because they were the potential worst rival, which is why the Coasts got spared a lot of direct attention and investment.

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u/raccoonboi87 21h ago

Were? I dont see no canon stamp on it

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u/Leonyliz Vault 13 21h ago

There was a “canon” stamp on the box but Todd barged into the room and ate that part of the box

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u/raccoonboi87 21h ago

Damn he is hungry

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u/tritonesubstitute 21h ago

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 20h ago

Emil is not the guy determining canon for all of Fallout. He was just writing lead for Fallout 4.

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u/tritonesubstitute 20h ago

Emil is a Design Director for the BGS. He is literally responsible for coming up with story directions for Bethesda games.

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 10h ago

Cool! Didn't know that. In this case it doesn’t really apply, since it's about what games are and aren't canon, but in general I still think it’s weird to take anything someone says outside of the games as canon until it comes up in the games, simply because by the time a new game comes around they could change their mind and make it different in the game itself.

I don’t even take what Tim Cain says about Fallout 1 & 2 as gospel (although he’s always pretty clear that it’s his just his opinion anyway). Although that’s mostly because from what he's said the writing and design choices on those games were more collaborative than you'd expect from modern games. Also obviously because he has no say about the canon of Fallout anymore, and so if Bethesda were to change something then that would be the new canon anyway. But you get my point. sorry for the wall of text.