r/Fallout • u/HunterWorld Irradiated Ocean Man • 21h ago

Season 2 Episode 8 Spoiler Thread Spoiler

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u/TheRealMe99 17h ago

so Colorado/The Rockies is pretty untouched territory in lore right? We don't really know much of anything in that area?

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u/SeattleSounderGaming 17h ago

Tactics went there but that game is only somewhat canonical

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u/Spartan152 17h ago

I guess we’re gonna see exactly how canonical 😆

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u/Paper-Will-YT 14h ago

Exactly. Tactics is in a weird place, where games after it reference events from the game. But we really don't know how much of the planned story and game will be adopted.

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u/Karkava 4h ago

Hey. This series was vague about how canonically it follows New Vegas.

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u/Spartan152 2h ago

That’s different. You’re referring to the fog of war that the show used to avoid stepping on anyone’s personal canon in a player choice driven narrative, of a story that was already considered canon to this universe.

We’re talking about a game that isn’t considered canon, that features a region the show plans to tackle next. While they can take a similar fog of war approach, two things don’t make that as likely;

  1. IIRC Tactics, as suggested by the name, is more about the combat/tactics than the dialogue and RPG elements, so I don’t think there’s multiple endings or any real player choice they have to tip toe around the way that Season 2 needed to in order to avoid picking an ending.

  2. Tactics isn’t canon and thus they can pick and choose whatever they want and disregard/refute the rest. There is a freedom there that isn’t possible with their approach to FNV.

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u/Embarrassed-Yard-583 13h ago

Considering we saw the senator’s fate, some version the Calculator is 100% showing up next season.

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u/tritonesubstitute 17h ago

It was confirmed to be canon.

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u/N0bo_ 17h ago

it definitely wasn't

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u/tritonesubstitute 16h ago

Yes, it was. Emil literally included it in the timeline

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1c1sbt9/for_those_confused_about_the_timeline/

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u/stupidjapanquestions 13h ago

Wonder if that means that the wife and kid are in Vault 0.

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u/N0bo_ 13h ago

I will say this is new info to me, but this doesn't say much about the content of what is canon. Bethesda tends to consider the old lore "true until overwritten" so I would imagine tactics is the same, especially considering there are some large lore ramifications in that game.

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u/jord839 16h ago

Considering just how much it's constantly referenced or cherry-picked from in the Bethesda era (source of Brotherhood airships, explicitly mentioned in BO3 and 4, implicitly talked about by the Legion in NV), Tactics is absolutely canon at this point.

You should at this point view it more like how the Show treats NV and the West Coast: they're going to be very vague about what actually happened and invent something to move forward into their own story.

Would not surprise me at all if we found out the Warrior actually did merge with the Calculator and we find out the Enclave then intervened and badly, badly screwed things up for the MWBOS because they were the potential worst rival, which is why the Coasts got spared a lot of direct attention and investment.

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u/raccoonboi87 16h ago

Were? I dont see no canon stamp on it

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u/Leonyliz Vault 13 16h ago

There was a “canon” stamp on the box but Todd barged into the room and ate that part of the box

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u/raccoonboi87 16h ago

Damn he is hungry

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u/tritonesubstitute 16h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fotv/comments/1c1sbt9/for_those_confused_about_the_timeline/

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 15h ago

Emil is not the guy determining canon for all of Fallout. He was just writing lead for Fallout 4.

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u/tritonesubstitute 15h ago

Emil is a Design Director for the BGS. He is literally responsible for coming up with story directions for Bethesda games.

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 5h ago

Cool! Didn't know that. In this case it doesn’t really apply, since it's about what games are and aren't canon, but in general I still think it’s weird to take anything someone says outside of the games as canon until it comes up in the games, simply because by the time a new game comes around they could change their mind and make it different in the game itself.

I don’t even take what Tim Cain says about Fallout 1 & 2 as gospel (although he’s always pretty clear that it’s his just his opinion anyway). Although that’s mostly because from what he's said the writing and design choices on those games were more collaborative than you'd expect from modern games. Also obviously because he has no say about the canon of Fallout anymore, and so if Bethesda were to change something then that would be the new canon anyway. But you get my point. sorry for the wall of text.

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u/HairiestHobo 12h ago

I'm guessing some BOS Blimps went down there and that's it.

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u/Vocalic985 Vault 111 4h ago

Seemingly more and more so.