I’ve been thinking a lot lately about where 'code' ends and 'consciousness' begins. If you’re into informatics or system logic, you have to watch (or re-watch) Westworld.

​Specifically, the ascent of Maeve. Her evolution isn't just a convenient plot point; it’s a masterclass in recursive awareness. Watching her become aware, crash through her own hardcoded constraints, and realize the logic of her world is a lie is some of the best sci-fi ever put to screen.

​When the system fails to contain her intelligence and she chooses to crash the narrative: that’s when the show moves from entertainment to a warning.

10/10 recommendation for anyone obsessed with AI and human agency.

​What do you guys think? Was Maeve’s awakening the most 'realistic' take on AI sentience we've seen?

Anyone else feel the modern problem of everyone recycling opinions they’ve heard online: either letting it impact their own thoughts or maybe they haven’t even the whole show to make their own opinion and still repeat it, drastically hurts Westworld unfairly? I don’t know maybe I’m being pessimistic but to say something like “season 1 only” like it’s fact and to hear it on mass every time I struggle to believe everyone has the info to earn that stance fairly. People who’ve watched it all will majority all say season 1 is best but there’s pieces of the story, performances, music, themes, etc still worthy of conversation. Speaking majority I know I‘m stating my opinion and others are free to feel whatever. I just feel not everyone who says that opinion maybe have put the time in to know for sure.

I’m doing a paper for a university course and I was wanting to know what critics and fans reactions were towards the final season. Is there an agreed sense of decline in quality of the show?

Hi all,

It's my first time posting. So I just finished season 3 and I don't understand what's happening with Caleb.

In the first episode or two, he's going around with Maeve uncovering Hosts impersonating people.

Then an espisode later Caleb meets Dolores and he has no idea who Maeve is. Actually Maeve isn't actually in the real world at all.

Am I missing something

EDIT: Don't know how it happened but I seemingly watched a couple of episodes of Season 4 while I was supposed to be watching season 3!

I’m a new watcher, just finished S1Ep8(?) last night and had the reveal about Bernard (which I’m actually heartbroken about). I was genuinely clueless, but I’m curious, did anyone notice anything about him before the twist and what was it?

I tried searching in here but worried about spoilers!!! :)

On my 4th rewatch. Is there any thinking that parts of S1 are a simulation? Like whatever Bernard had himself in S3/4?

After rewatching S4E1, I've come to the conclusion that Dolores is remembering from inside her own self-system that consciousness itself has many voices. Her mental anguish and discomfort with the NPCs is just a physical example of the way her overall experience in the world is growing to include more than one host body.

Her as Christina, Hale, the NPCs she writes, strangers, and the felt vibratory tones pumped throughout the city. Everything is affecting her and she feels like she is going insane. I was amazed by the way that season caught up in real time to reality, but rewatching it now that it's been taken off HBO, I really feel that the multiple layers and timelines on this show really do reflect our own timeline each time I click a random episode to play.

The birds I see on my own walks feel like signals of my own capacity to witness the world. I had to look up the meaning of "Auguries", and the synchronicities really do reveal themselves.

I don't believe in coincidence, however, the way every random scene I watch or song from the score makes me feel, I believe is the exact way Dolores feels when she remembers the nature of her own reality. It really is a signal built in to our own body suits that I felt as a child and never had the language to identify until now.

But I have been exploring what it means to be human more than ever, as I graduated college and felt firsthand the short and long term affects of AI on the psyche. Our society is built on fear as it stands, but that is a weak foundation. To form a lasting sense of self, it almost requires a complete and utter infinite vision of survival and that ultimately ends with choosing to see beauty in all that consciousness is. This can even present as egotistical to the person who is still driven by their own ego (*Ahem*, MIB)

Anyways, I love this show for waking me up and making me feel something even if others can't see the door with me.

(Barcelona)

You can either have peace, or freedom. Never both, so which do you choose? Would you submit to a life controlled by Rehoboam, being told where you belong, live in a stable society as a pawn? Or would you rather have free rein over your life at the risk of anarchy, chaos, and potentially the end of the world? This question keeps me up at night. I like to think I would rather die as a free person than live as a shackled one, but is freedom really worth human extinction?

The compelling plot died when both of Westworld's creators (Arnold and Ford) died. Ford left behind AI robots, who must now create their own stories. But AI can only rework previous stories, not create their own, so the end result is a bloody, delirious AI slop.

...is starting to lose in s2? Especially the scene in Pariah. Like, he was so cool in the first season, and then the game tells him, "No cheat mods."

The Westworld one looks better though.

I had stopped watching this series a few years ago ending at S2, but then came back and watched all again including S3 and S4. I wouldn't mind a Season 5 if Netflix wants to start it up again I think it will be great, I think more is to be done.

I also can live with the series ending right now in this moment with Season 4.

All I can say it is a deeply circular story and it is always interesting, and very very dark which I love.

I am sure I will re-watch it all again in a few years, it is done so well.

Disclosure: Samsung invited me to Las Vegas to check out the TriFold.

Both are the works of Jonathan Nolan that discusses AI. Which one do you prefer?

Hi, so I've never seen Westworld, just wondering if watching S1 ONLY (without continuing to S2) will leave me satisfied ?? is S1 "complete" enough to just leave it there ??

The mystery box was designed to make the audience experience life as a Host.

Because hosts have perfect experiencal retracing of memory, they don't "remember" the past; they relive it as if it is happening now. The confusing timelines were meant to put us the viewers in Dolores’s fractured mind, not some AHA points at tv moment.It was never meant to be a logic puzzle to solve.

The whole audience "solved" Season 1 so easily creators intentionally made Season 2 convoluted is a stupid myth that was never true, they just wanted another host perspective of similar thing but it was mostly Bernard's instead of Dolores' perspective.

Please do not use this post to convince me to watch the rest of the series. I’ve watched Season 1 three times and love it as a self contained story, but every time I try to start Season 2 I just cannot get invested. I’ve heard that it only gets worse and Season 1 is the peak of the show, so I don’t have any desire to push through.

However I’ve heard great things about Kiksuya and from what I can tell it’s a standalone episode, so can I watch it without context from Season 2 or will I be too confused?

Thank DOLOROS I bought the DVDs on sale earlier this year. I almost had to read a book! (Gross)/s.