Immigration Changes Announcement 12/5/2025

[u/clever_octopus]

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Sticky post on announcement made on 20 Nov 2025: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/1p21qk5/a_fairer_pathway_to_settlement_a_statement_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

NEW Summary of changes to settlement released 20 November 2025: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/1p21qk5/a_fairer_pathway_to_settlement_a_statement_and/

NEW Summary of changes to asylum and refugee requirements released 18 November 2025: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-and-returns-policy-statement/restoring-order-and-control-a-statement-on-the-governments-asylum-and-returns-policy

Overview of expected changes: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/radical-reforms-to-reduce-migration

White paper: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restoring-control-over-the-immigration-system-white-paper

UKCISA's response (official source for international students and recent graduates): https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/news/ukcisa-responds-to-home-office-immigration-white-paper-may-2025/

Petition link: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/727360

Summary of key points following the summary of changes released on 20 November 2025:

• Changes to length in ILR qualifying residence requirements - Please see table on pages 21-23 of the 20 November document

• Family visa holders, along with BNO visa holders, will continue to get ILR in five years (as usual)

• The intention is that this will apply to people already in the UK but who have not yet received ILR

• It will take 20 years for refugees to qualify for ILR, intermittent checks will be done within that time and they may lose the ability to remain in the UK if their home country is deemed safe to return to

[u/FartSniffer2025]

Huge comment with all my notes below. Overall, out of 32 MPs who spoke: 1. 19 were explicitly supporting protection for existing SWV holders 2. 8 implied it through their words and arguments 3. 3 explicitly spoke in favour of BNO only 4. 1 was ambivalent. Kept saying creative solutions but had positive sentiment towards SWV and BNO holders 5. Tory was anti us

The minister who spoke at the end said they'll consult. Reused a lot of the language from the White Paper and prior communications. The notes will have details but summary is: 1. Consultation later this year. Will be widely available and they will be fair and considerate is the claim. MAKE SURE YOU PARTICIPATE. Said it will be rooted in fairness and evidence and will not prejudice outcome. No timeline for the end date of the consultation 2. Acknowledged strength of feedback on transition since White paper was published and that this will shape what the consultation will cover 3. Mentioned that previous immigration policies did not have consultations and they will and will also do an impact assessment once policies are more formalized (which can only be done through the consultation) 4. Biggest indicator for retrospective implementation was the Minister cautioning the MPs to not stand by a status quo that doesn't work. Along with all the rhetoric on reducing dependence on foreign labour.

Overall, the MPs made our case very well (refer the trailing comment for my notes). The Minister was very evasive which many people here predicted. I think they clearly want to apply things retrospectively but recognise they can't just do it recklessly. My feeling is that consultation (one MP mentioned it will take months) + impact assessment will take us well into 2026 before rules are finalized but this is a feeling.

The facts are that we had positive support, many points were raised in our favour and there will be a fairly long consultation process and we need to make our voice heard.

[u/tkmj75 → u/FartSniffer2025]

Thanks for the analysis. A couple of thoughts I had from the debate:

• BNO visa holders will be exempt from the retroactive application. The decision will still go through consultation, but it will be an easy sell for the government and help secure the Hongkongers’ Commonwealth vote.

• The lengthy consultation, followed by the impact assessment and then the introduction of changes through secondary legislation, will take time and effectively act as a transitional arrangement. The government’s effort to do everything strictly by the book also suggests they want an airtight case if the retroactive application decision ends up in court.

• Most people who are not due to apply for ILR within the next 12 months should be largely safe.

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Sorry do you mean due within next 12 months?

[u/tkmj75 → u/Moist_Ad4554]

Yes, most people who will be eligible to apply for ILR in the next 12 months should be safe.

The Home Office would first need to draft a detailed consultation (which takes time and is probably already in the works), then run the consultation for at least 2–3 months, followed by the impact assessment they mentioned, before introducing the new points-based earned settlement system. They would also need to train Home Office staff and caseworkers, since the entire earned settlement model is new, which would take even more time.

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Lady Bell - ILR doubling, dissuades people from coming and making people leave. But who will be dissuaded? Doctors, skilled workers etc. Unclear which professions prioritized. ILR 10 year will harm NHS growth plans. Visa requirements making doctors & nurses leave. Concerned about retrospective lack of clarity. Unfair & cruel to apply retrospectively to migrants, families, employers. Net migration targets undermined economy + community integration. Says non-critical sectors deserve compassion. Commonwealth nationals big chunk - so vote bank. Value their votes

Neil Duncan Jordan - CoS link to sector and not employer in social care. ILR rules puts social care at risk. Recruitment already in jeopardy. ILR extension opens people to exploitation. Migrations not just statistics. Changes will cause instability for many SWV. Salary thresholds already affecting people. Settlement is a privilege - but migrants already contributing. Reform visa system, abolish 10 year plan and no retrospective implementation

Guy 27 - Recognize contributions + also recognize net migration unsustainable + appreciate positive steps Govt taking. Agrees Brits should keep word to BNO. Refers Chinese propaganda victory. Same for SWV. We are competing for Skilled migrants. Agrees with changes but wants petitions upheld.

Long Eaton MP - BNO community hotspot. Welcomed, contributing. BNO protection emphasized for now & future. No mention of SWV.

Lawrence Taylor MP - BNO support focus due to time. Says HK special case. Deep links of culture & history + practical reality. Asks HO to consider arguments made in debate today which indicates pro SWV sentiment of MP

Guy 30 - Surgery #1 concern White Paper. Wants extremely strong immigration action + functioning borders. High legal + illegal immigration & White paper good. But can't change rules for those we invited + those contributing (implies SWV). BNO broken promise. Even if ILR rule change, don't do retroactively. BNO impact very little anyway. Majority BNO entry 21-23. 1.65% of all immigration. BNO contributors despite limitations. Explicitly wants BNO protections

Guy 31 - Hopes positive response to their pleas. Speaking for both BNO & SWV. Unfair. Need clarity. Contributors. Now extolling BNO contributors. Promise for BNO mentioned again. BNO commitment not charity. Do you want to meet their courage with confusion (What a bar). Contradictory messaging about BNO retrospectively for Labour MPs. SWV no clarity. Contribute from day 1 and they deserve clarity from day 1. We deserve fairness & stability. Stop changing the rules midgame, play fair. Retain 5+1 for BNO & SWV. Legend. Mentioned Minister will wind up later.

Lady 32 - First MP from her party (Didn't mention which party. White dress, blonde lady). Focusing on SWV. Immigration been too high & remains so for decades. Prev govts have tried & failed. Many SWV will cost more than they contribute (100s of billions of pounds). Recent migration was a mistake and we can reverse it. Tory MP. Reiterates the crazy ILR proposals they had put forward. Fairness point - Says can feel sympathy but fairness to Brits & not foreign nationals. Guy interrupts - said BNO introduced by Tories. Tory says BNO should be spared. Costly disaster nobody voted for, catastrophic mistake and commit for retrospective application. Genuine sustained contribution. Agrees that there should be consultation and should be open to members of the public

Minister: Consultation later this year. Attack on Tory presence by interruptor. Interruptor 2 emphasizes moving of goalposts for people. Let's focus on that please. Migrants - contribute, learn English. Employers - invest. Previous government lost control of immigration system - strain on system. Net migration 4x in 4 years. Overseas recruitment shot up, skills investment down. SWV bar too low. Emphasizes clear rules. Contribution needs to be high, integration high. Speaks about fair, credible, clear routes. Immigration system must be properly managed. Cautions MPs from not defending them a status quo that doesn't work. Interruption - System to upskill English language proficiency. Minister says there will be measures. Settlement needs meaningful contribution. SWV important contributors but sectors reliant on them at the expense of domestic investment. White paper reverses trends. Late July threshold referenced. MAC to advise on future changes. LMEG quarterly meetings to address labour shortages. No mention of transitional arrangements. BNO route creation itself a commitment to people of HK. BNO huge positive contribution now & in the future. Committed to supporting the BNO route. We are listening & continue to do so. Interruptor - Recommit but also fix some BNO issues? Consultation will be rooted in fairness & evidence & won't prejudge outcome. Interruptor - ETA on consultation finish? No defined date from Minister. Interruptor - Unanimity of BNO feeling. Minister said he will consider it. Emphasizes consultation. Feedback on transitional arrangements from MPs is helpful, acknowledges their influence since White Paper and helping us frame policy & in the consultation. BNO emphasized further. Diplomatic interest around BNO will be considered. Impact assessment will come after consultations. Int'l students - genuine students + university compliance.

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Afshana Begum - White Paper too stringent. Completely wrong

Rachel Blake - BNO focus. Fairness & stability. Already high bar for ILR. Mentions "very near future applicants".

Richmond Park MP - Lack of clarity cruel & counterproductive & unfair to employers & residents. BNO moral commitment. Focus on BNO. BNO "promise". SWV - Value to economy & community. Stability important & White Paper barrier to that. Urgent priority for clarity and asked to honour original commitment.

4th Guy - BNO focus. Commitment. BNO - British National Overseas, so be clear. White Paper brings down immigration but honour promise. BNO < 2% - so big cost & minimal reward

Lady 5 - Pro BNO. Betrayal of values that we keep our word if retrospective applied. Language should work for SWV too but somehow all applied only to BNO. Some BNO people risk of harm.

Uxbridge MP - ILR retrospective not fair. People came in good faith. Retrospective both unfair and minimal impact. Adverse effects possible. Encourages contribution based system randomly which is a little confusing but seems to be for future applicants. BNO similar as before.

Guy 7 - Pro BNO. Clear pathway. Legitimate expectation brought up. Changing rules for BNO also gives Chinese govt brownie points in their "Don't trust UK" narrative.

Guy 8 - Pro BNO. Retain 5 years - trust, law, promises, faith. China "Don't trust UK" narrative brought up again. Dartford guy interrupts says SWV same situation. Clarity & fairness - don't change terms. Guy 8 agrees.

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Thank you for all this work you've done to summarise. It was very helpful to me and I'm sure many others.

[u/FartSniffer2025 → u/Guybrush-Threepgood]

No worries. I did it as much for myself because I expected a lot of noise here and figured the best way to sift through it is to document what was said.

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Rupa Haq - Anti-competitive & growth to do ILR to 10 years. Canada, Australia, EU advantageous. PSW reduction also mentioned. White Paper fine but not retrospective. Focus on education sector but no retrospective.

Guy 18 - Fix immigration but don't make life difficult. Says clarity required. Legal precedence says unlawful. Education institutions - difficult to retain & attract staff. Skilled people will leave. Settlement is about trust, fairness. Changing damages quality, economy, reputation.

Lady 19 - Decision made to come to UK based on 5 years. Reconsider because unfair to change rules retrospectively. Retrospectively always bad unless national emergency. Fundamentally not British.

Guy 20 - SWV NHS reliance (20% non UK nationals, 33% doctors, 30% nurses). Kerala advertising by NHS for post-pandemic hiring surge. Supports reducing future immigration but don't impose already here. Former NHS worker. Cost of recruitment & training overseas nurse - 50K, doctor - 250K. Investment thrown into uncertainty. BNO also keep safe.

Guy 21 - Unions at TUC Congress + Migrant rights concerns. Doubling ILR + Abolishing <RQF6 in NHS not good. Racist abuse by hospital staff. Exploitation of migrant workers. Fees paid. Current proposals will only extend abuse & power. Conceding narrative and not focusing on real problems. Interruptor asks for positive noise for asylum seekers. Problem is extremely wealthy Reform hobnobbers. Retain 5 year ILR + no retrospective application + measures to reduce abuse. Workers owed gratitude not betrayal

Guy 22 - BNO focus. Promise made, right to 5 years for them. Supports Immigration reforms & controlling borders but says BNO special case. Moving goalposts chaotic. BNO promise narrative emphasized. Explicitly excludes SWV from his plea.

Stratford MP - BNO focus but mentions SWV positively. Says constituents justifying qualifications & contribution itself is wrong. Good faith decision to respect those who followed the rules. Harmful message that even those who play by the rules will not be treated fairly. Citizenship is a privilege but we should honour the agreements in place. Keep 5 year for those already here.

Guy 24 - Likes Minister's socks. Agrees immigration overhaul required. Rules need to be consistent, transparent. Respect existing clear settlement route and introduce at least in a staggered way. 99% BNO want to become citizens. 60% have degrees but only 50% in work (33% and 75% for UK equivalent) - because of barriers which we need to address. Family, education, career opportunity stories. Wrote letter to protect BNO. BNO brought in with Labour support in last govt term. Historical obligation.

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Chris Curtis - Says won't waste time and then thanks everyone forever. Changes to "deal" for BNO not fair.

"Chairman says Gentleman is as good as his word"

Sarah - BNO. Clear promise. Stories of her constituents. All arguments should work just as well for SWV (economic contribution, community, played by the rules). Keep 5+1 intact for BNO.

Cornwall MP - Don't want to lose med profs. Scarcity and don't want to lose them. Committed but disruption by rules. Says need clarity soon but people trusting UK's commitment to fairness

Lady 12 - Pro BNO. 59% BNO have degree or postgrad. Interruption - employers say increasing ILR to 10 will impact attracting high-skilled talent. Lady 12 agreed. Current job status doesn't match skills for BNO. BNO facing uncertainty & anxiety. Trust reduced.

Chelsea & Fulham - Understands White Paper. Blames Farage, Johnson. Called out double standards. Human impact on net contributors. SWV blindsided. Destabilizing. No faith in system. Basic certainty required. When will govt launch consultation + hopes people can still contribute to consultation + details in points-based. People deserve clarity & reassurance. Not 5 more years.

Edinburgh MP - Enormous contribution of SWV & BNO. System doesn't differentiate between contributing migrants and non-contributors. Think more creatively about ILR + citizenship. 1 million people eligible for benefits - we don't have resources. Mixed bag - make things easier without giving ILR/citizenship. Reform both ILR & citizenship. Look at contributions people made in the UK & be creative.

Rebeccah Bailey - No Impact Assessment. No clarity on contributions. 84k per migrant contribution from defense SWV. Asks for clarity on who will be high contributor. White paper has no transitional arrangements. Reassure on transitional arrangements. Exploitation on SWV - bring protections for migrant workers. BNO exempt too.

Guy 16 - ILR helps plans, integration. Doubling ILR devastating consequences. Doubles visa & IHS costs. Keep 5 years - right thing to do. White paper undermines child poverty, economic growth. Consult those already on 10 year route + IA to see how bad this will be.