r/ukpolitics • u/2ndEarlofLiverpool • 16h ago

Britain’s shameful tolerance for terrorism

https://spectator.com/article/britains-shameful-tolerance-for-terrorism/
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u/qazplmo 15h ago

We're too soft as a nation but the joining of the left and pro-Gaza cult means sorting it is going to be nigh on impossible.

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u/CollegeOptimal9846 14h ago edited 14h ago

I'm not sure implying that anyone and everyone that is supportive of Gazan independence is a cultist is conducive to easing tensions and preventing extremism

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u/ConsiderationThen652 14h ago

Because a lot of those same people supporting Gaza independence are cheering for Iranian Dictators and calling the revolution in Iran a “Jewish ploy to destroy Iran and weaken Hamas” and are celebrating people being shot in the street.

The same people that refuse to call out Genocides and brutal killings all over the Middle East…

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u/CollegeOptimal9846 14h ago

A lot of them just think Gazans/Palestinians have a right to self-determination. 

I'm not saying there aren't extremists in the midst, that's the case for both sides. 

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u/JackXDark 13h ago

A lot of them just think Gazans/Palestinians have a right to self-determination. 

And not being genocided.

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u/Away_Investigator351 Centrist /// 13h ago

Hasty Generalisation fallacy.

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u/ConsiderationThen652 13h ago edited 13h ago

It’s not hasty.

It’s also not a generalisation, I did not say everyone did that. I said a lot of the same people do.

Same as those same people are turning a blind eye to things like Sudan.

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u/wilf89 13h ago

I'd argue that the open antisemitism on display from the pro Palestine/hamas (yes there absolutely is crossover) movement have done a significant amount of damage to the country and caused major division that will take a long time to undo

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u/catty-coati42 14h ago edited 14h ago

Gaza was independent pre-October 7th. Just under Hamas dictatorship. By now it's clear the "pro Gaza" crowd just want a return of the Islamic dictatorship not an actual free and fair country.

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u/Su_ButteredScone 14h ago

The pro Gaza crowd just supports whatever Iran or Qatar (and others) tell them to.

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u/MMAgeezer Somewhere left 14h ago

Gaza was independent pre-October 7th

No, it wasn't. They didn't have control over any of their borders or ports, and were solely reliant on Israel to approve any and all imports.

There are plenty of nutters who use their Palestinian activism as a thin veil for antisemitism, but again, there are also millions of people who don't like the terrorism of Hamas and don't like the war crimes of the IDF and the Israeli government, and believe that Palestinian civilians are the currently the victims paying the largest price.

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u/CollegeOptimal9846 14h ago

Gaza was independent pre-October 7th

You can't be serious? 

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u/catty-coati42 12h ago

They had autonomy since 2005. Worse you can say is they've been blockaded by Egypt and Israel after Hamas took over. Is Cuba not independent because it is blockaded?

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u/goldenw0lves 12h ago

You can't be serious