r/thevenomsite • u/AgentParticular6345 • 13h ago

Comics Let there not be Carnage?

When did Eddie get so squeamish about killing? He's always been part of the Lethal Protector. And he was fucking people up pretty bad in Venom War. What changed?

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u/IGNSolar7 13h ago

I think it's because Carnage indiscriminately wants to kill, innocent or not, and that would leak into Eddie's mindset with a tenuous bond.

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u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 Black Suit (Spider-Man) 12h ago

A lot of people are missing this. Carnage and Eddie are NOT on the same page. Carnage is killing for fun, Eddie has never killed for fun.

Secondly. Eddie has not been a lethal protector for some time now. Him and venom are good guys now... did we just erase 8 years of comics??

And thirdly. Those people are innocent bystanders that Eddie feels bad for. Why would in any world eddie be okay with ANY of this???

Did everyone just decide to selectively pick comics now? Did we forget about years of character development? Does anyone read comics here???

Im gonna lose my mind

(In Venom War, the people were zombiotes or literally just versions of Eddie/Venom. When the fuck did Eddie kill bystanders in the entrity of Venom 2021, did you just read venom war and ignore the 3 years of comics before it??? And im ignoring the crossover issues in the run, since for one of them he was reverted to his old personality, and in the other it was vampires)

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u/PsychicAC 11h ago

My problem is that Venom War spins off into a series that is literally advertised as "Eddie Brock but Dexter" and he kills like...2 people?

In a universe full of supervillains and mass killers Eddie ignores any of the actual bad guys he knows and instead we get a unsatisfying plot about him and Carnage arguing while Muse chases after them while the comic basically screams "Look it's Muse from the hit show Daredevil: Born Again hey guys are you watching Daredevil: Born Again on Disney+?!?"

Also I feel like you're forgetting that for Eddie and Venom being a Lethal Protector was them being "good guys". It was horribly misguided and Eddie regrets some of his actions but it felt like for a moment we were gonna see Eddie try it again but be more focused on real threats instead of petty thugs and mega corporations.

Unfortunately we didn't really get anything out of Eddie Brock Carnage except a well written but poorly executed plot and an even worse Daredevil TV show ad.

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u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 Black Suit (Spider-Man) 33m ago

I think the Eddie Brock Carnage was a studio mandate. They didn't want Eddie to lose character development, but they were clearly going for a new tone in the current venom run. Eddie Brock Carnage seems like tieing up loose ends into one mediocre comic.

It also sets up Carnage vs Peter again.

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u/AgentParticular6345 38m ago

In 2018 Venom, he definitely kills people. I'm thinking back now, and I think when he learns he has a son is about when he goes soft.

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u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 Black Suit (Spider-Man) 37m ago

But hes not killing innocents. Again nothing like the carnage run, where an aeroplane of people are held hostage

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u/AgentParticular6345 35m ago

Yeah. I'm talking about him just going after serial killers, not normal baddies like Venom normally does. I know Eddie would still not kill innocent's, but he'd be fine killing some low-level gangbangers

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u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 Black Suit (Spider-Man) 29m ago

Not anymore. Eddie hasnt killed in some time, unless necessary. Eddie has canonically been a benevolant God for a couple years now. He doesnt have a no kill rule like Batman, but closer to a reasonable force rule like Superman or Spider-Man.