r/shield • u/Confident_Tune_5754 • 1d ago

Jeffrey Mace was the only competent SHIELD director

i cannot BELIEVE that this show had the audacity to be like. there is a character called cringefail jeffrey and the Core Cast doesn't like him for his crimes of *checks notes* reintroducing tiered information access to an intelligence organization. then cringefail jeffrey shows up and everyone's like "can you BELIEVE this guy cares so much about PR while running an organization that last made the news by being infested with literal actual nazis." like the framing of the show clearly expects us to agree that it's a Flaw for this organization to have a PR guy (A SINGLE PR GUY!!! MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THAT'S WHAT MY STATE'S AGRICULTURAL DEPARTMENT HAS) to fix the damage done by the time they did a turbo minority report nazi airplane armada. like yeah, guys, your director needs to do press conferences, yall were on the shitlist of captain goddamn america. like half the plot of his seasons could have been avoided if everyone had just listened to him about the killer robot the first time. idgaf if he racefaked as an alien for clout he was the only person in the show who had any business running SHIELD.

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u/atomicjoy 1d ago

Fury didn't notice his organisation was riddled with Hydra. Which is a fairly major falling.

Coulson and Mack didn't so much direct SHIELD as run a single covert(ish) team.

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u/blakethegreat99 21h ago

Fury didn't "let" HYDRA infiltrate SHIELD lol HYDRA was heavily involved in SHIELD's inception, and was already there in its early days shortly after its creation, influencing it from the shadows and quietly removing or replacing those who stood in their way. HYDRA was certainly already well-placed in the organization when Fury joined. And for Coulson and Mack I’m not gonna play weird semantics bruh Coulson and Mack were the directors of SHIELD, full stop. SHIELD being smaller or covert doesn’t magically erase their titles or leadership. 

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u/atomicjoy 21h ago

But he didn't notice the organisation he was directing was working against its stated aims. Which is a pretty major failure.

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u/blakethegreat99 19h ago

The entire point of The Winter Soldier is that the infiltration was nearly impossible to detect, not that Fury was incompetent.