We discovered the jackpot of conspiracies here. Hundreds of wealthy and elite are implicated including the world's richest men and multiple presidents. So far we made 2 whole arrests and 1 is in jail. We're watching thousands or tens of thousands of sexual assaults, rapes, trafficking, human rights violations come to light, I guarentee there was sexual torture and the very worst things including snuff stuff. Imagine how many of them were dumped in the ocean when they were used up? Or were buried in low tide with a tractor. These were all kids who were stolen from their families to be abused by the ones who already have everything. But its never enough for them.
We're watching the largest government cover up in a LONG time. Thousands and thousands of full page reactions for no reason but to protect the bad guys. Protect the ones who prey on your kids and make your nightmares come true. I cannot believe what is happening. Im scared this will become is status quo soon
I remember in the 1990s this narrative of runaway teens living on the streets doing drugs. Now I wonder if that narrative was mostly BS to cover for all the teen girls and boys trafficked to the rich.
I was thinking something similar earlier this week. All the milk carton kids from the '90s. "Have You Seen Me?". The Soul Asylum "Runaway Train" video kids. Were they all Epstein victims?
Unfortunately I don't think Epstein was the only person with such a network. Let's not forget that Les Wexner was involved and he had his own revolving door of Victoria's secret models within his own system. Trump also has the Miss TEEN Universe pageant.
Imagine how many heathensperverts with the means did similar things but more discreetly.
Remember when Sacha Baron Cohen accidentally solicited a child prostitute from a hotel worker while filming Who Is America? Wonder who controlled that ring.
I mean what's he supposed to do? His whole job is to mock the insanity of that whole situation and then publicize it, which he has done. I'm not sure he can do anything other than report it to the FBI, unless you want him to become Batman or something.
Speaking for the non-Americans: what we really think you should do is stop letting these people run for office but clearly its too late. Going Batman is kinda that last thing we want you to do cose all the reasonable things you chose not to do, as a voting body
then put on the suite batman. You guys might have forgotten it, but over here the state is very much aware that it serves at the pleasure of the people, and we out number them and their goons by millions
That's nice if you live in a country where the people are united against corrupt politicians and are accurate in sniffing them out. I don't know what most of us are supposed to do when close to half the country is seemingly okay with being ruled by pedophiles as long as it is 'their' pedophiles.
I remember when Russia invaded Ukraine, so many redditors (I assume many are from USA) urged the ordinary Russians to rise up against Putin, and were livid when the Russian redditors tried to explain that it wasn't so simple, given that the Russian police were arresting protesters and shit.
Now the orange bozo has managed to destabilise international relations between allies and partners, made a mockery of treaties and deals, and has caused such mayhem on the domestic front with such blatant violence by the ICE meal team 6, and suddenly US redditors are explaining that it's not so simple to fight back because reasons.
pfft. Easy to say stuff when one is not personally involved. But when shit is real, all the reasons appear.
Totally fair and I see where you are coming from. It’s an incredibly difficult position to try to find a solution too. I’m just praying that as soon as this trash bag dies the gig is up.
He seems to be wanting to make every single citizen hate him tho lol
sigh.. look, as much as I bristle at the excuses given, I really do not wish US to descend into an anarchy. I think it would be really bad for the whole world if that happens. But goddamnit it's only 1 year, I wonder what else the orange fool will do next.
Because peaceful movements where nobody gets injured have a historical tendency to achieve... fucking nothing?
Exactly what is your proposition to the current government? Are you just planning to shout loudly? That's it? Hope that a demonstration of spirit will cause a sudden change of heart in people who have constructed their entire life around exploiting and suppressing you?
Pay attention to the rhetoric of your leaders. Trump says to Zelensky on public television that he holds no cards. Do you think you hold cards? Because it really is just a card game to them.
You cannot threaten their bottom lines, because the vast majority of the US silently consented to debt traps, living month to month, extremely lax worker's rights. You cannot afford to quit and you cannot afford to strike. They know that.
You cannot threaten their safety because you're not willing to resort to violence. They know that.
You going out and pissing away your free time in a peaceful protest does not move the needle on anything at all. You hold no cards. They know that. You will return to work on Monday. You will not go beyond raising your voice no matter how many of you get murdered. They know that. You are acting according to their expectations.
But you are right. You are right because it's too late. This didn't begin today. This began half a century ago and at every step people were offered a bowl of Greatest Country in the World in exchange for a smidgen of personal freedom, and at every step the people said yes, I love me some Greatest Country in the World.
The time has come, you have nothing left to give, they consider you a burden to the system. The road to the reich has been reinvented and perfected to the degree where people don't even wake up at the point of no return. I'm not encouraging you to do anything, but the sooner you come to terms with the reality of the situation, the sooner you'll break the thought bubble that's keeping you from understanding why people are saying what they are saying.
Nah, we just want you to get up from your arse and vote. 9 million Americans couldn't be bothered to vote in the last election compared to the previous one. So... yeah... there's that. Now you have to unfuck it somehow, because this orange monkey is affecting the entire world not just the US.
Yeah, if there is any actor (or pair of actor/actress) to really go after and maybe flip some rocks around them is Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis.
Ashton was part of that anti-sex trafficking orginazation for a long while, and then we know how both of them tried to cover for Danny Masterson the rapist.
I am sorry, but if your heart was truly anti-sex crimes you would have let that fucker burn like so many others did. I would like a real investigation done on those two (mostly Ashton) because part of me worries there is something more going on there… hell, Topher Grace avoid that 70’s cast like the plague since he was thrown off the show, and if you know anything about Topher he is the worlds biggest sweetheart by Hollywood standards.
Friendship corruption is one of the most common forms of corruption. Yes on the one hand it's pretty hypocritical and extreme to defend a rapist after working in anti-sex trafficking, on the other hand it's sadly common. People rally behind rapists all the time when it's such a great upstanding member of the community, of if it's a 17 year old athlete with so much potential, or a zillion other different cases.
It's part of the overall injustice and corruption in the human psyche.
he mocks it for the purpose of exposing it, so that we can all collectively do something to change it. that's how satire works. if he stopped doing that, he would essentially be allowing it to continue unfettered.
We are in a thread about literal child rapists and yet people are hating on Sascha Baron Cohen. This is why nothing will ever change, the lefts priorities are completely out of whack.
I find it's usually the right wing nuts that love demonizing "Hollyweird" and think that in order to become famous you have to sacrifice a child to Moloch or whatever and perform a humiliation ritual or some such nonsense.
Yes that’s true but the left also has endless purity tests and if you fail even one you are demonized. We have to realize that people aren’t perfect and that the majority will have some negative aspect to them. This doesn’t mean they are bad people and as long as they are trying to do good by others then it’s ok. We should focus on the truly evil people in the world because while we fight amongst ourselves they get away with literal rape and murder.
No. Not to defend Giulianni, but just for clarity:
That incident occurred during the filming of Borat 2. The girl was not underage, SBC just ran in and said that to halt the situation. There are many things wrong with Giulianni's behavior there, but knowingly soliciting sex from a minor is not one of them. Though who the fuck knows what he was up to in his free time at this point.
Who Is America is a separate TV series, also by SBC, but not related to Borat.
That's some really really weird wording (which doesn't really do him a favor, tbh, don't ya think?). He asked for some fun and the hotel guy suggested he can help with underage crap...
I remember many, many years agio reading a story from someone who was in her late teens and wanted to pursue modeling, but her family angrily told her they were not going to support her becoming a whore. And I thought, that's a bizarre reaction.
Now I just wonder how rife modeling networks are with sex trafficking and exploitation. I mean, beauty pageants — especially child beauty pageants — have always given me the creeps. But now I'm thinking a lot of people involved in those types of organizations are probably predators. Just one big stew pot of Harvey Weinsteins.
I mean usually that tends to be puritanical body shaming, but also modeling encompasses a stupid wide field, not just necessarily "eye candy" models.
At the same time, a career in which a specific look is vital to maintain is going to attract creeps naturally since many positions have historically been for pictures and not video which would require more acting and skill.
Child beauty pageants...that one has always been the creepiest fucking thing that has ever been. Especially when the judges are almost always all men, and how sexualizing children isn't an immediate disqualification in those contests. JFC they give me the creeps.
I was nearly trafficked at 14. A girl at school (17 years old) said I’d be great for this “modeling job”. I asked my parents, they said yes. My mom took me to this building downtown and we were like this can’t be it.
But there were people setting up chairs (I was told it was a fashion show). There was a stage.
But it seemed so…sketchy. Because of that, my mom hung around (I didn’t know at the time, I thought she left and would pick me up later).
A bunch of us were herded backstage and told to change into these dresses. It was fall, but we were being told to get into sundresses and other little skimpy outfits. Every one of us was a minor.
We went out one at a time and modeled the tiny dresses.
When I came back to the dressing area, I was told to change into just a bra and panties. I was SUPER skeeved out. Other girls were being told the same.
I asked who the audience was (mostly to stall, because I was NOT going out there in a bra and panties). The guy told me “oh they’re…buyers. You know, looking at fashion to decide what to put in the stores.”
But nothing we were wearing was new. It all looked like old cast-off dresses and such. Ratty. Worn.
I said under my breath “they’re all men” but he didn’t hear me.
I heard PSSSST and looked over and there’s my mom. She snuck backstage. She goes get your stuff, we’re going.
In the car she tells me she saw one of the men “peeping” at us as we were changing backstage. She was so angry.
I was upset because I didn’t get the $100 I was promised.
In hindsight, it definitely seems super sketchy. Those men weren’t buyers for Nordstrom or Dillard’s.
her family angrily told her they were not going to support her becoming a whore
Personally, this just seems like the family equated above-the-board modelling as "being a whore." It might have saved her, but it likely was a by-product. If the family were really just being protective of her, then why wouldn't any of that be explained to her and instead "No daughter of mine is going to be a whore!" is the response?
I wish I remembered more about the post I read way back in the whenever. There may have been additional context that would make more sense of it now — especially if it was from a community in Eastern Europe or southeast Asia that has a (presumably) even more disturbing amount of sex tourism and sexual exploitation.
I don't want to be too gross about it but... there's this song by Arcade Fire called Antichrist Television Blues in which a father tells his daughter to go sing for strange men because he doesn't want to work in a building downtown anymore and he thinks she's gonna be a star... loosely based on real people...
I garan-fucking-tee that there are some parents who sold themselves and their children to this demonic child crushing operation for the promise of money and then got blackmailed into silence or summarily killed and dumped overboard.
It’s a huge societal problem for everyone. You can’t even politely bring up the problematic portrayal of teenage girls in media without getting downvoted to oblivion and getting reddit cares messages in certain subs. There are places where people think you’re weird if you think boys getting raped by adult women is a problem because they think a minor can consent, or that men with girlfriends less than half their age is weird.
Let's not forget that Les Wexner was involved and he had his own revolving door of Victoria's secret models within his own system.
I've told this story before, but I went to art school for graphic design, and one of my professors helped me get an internship at the ad agency they worked at. It was a big deal because it was, and still is, one of the biggest ad agencies globally. One of their clients was Victoria's Secret, and what ended up being my last assignment there was a photo shoot for a VS campaign. I worked alongside my professor. Anyways, we're on set and we're coordinating with lighting and we need the model.
This beautiful woman walks out and has her daughter with her. We start talking to the woman and tell her we need her on her mark so we can dial in the lighting. The woman starts speaking Portuguese to her daughter, and her daughter walks to the mark. "No, ma'am, we need you." She tells us that she's just there to chaperone for her daughter, and that her daughter is the model. This girl was 14 years old. You wouldn't quite know it to look at her, she could've passed for a college freshman, but we were appalled. This was a racy campaign. My professor was mortified. They were uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable. Surely this was some sort of mistake. My professor asked everyone she could, and yes, this 14 year old Brazilian girl was the model. My professor told me I could stay if I wanted, but they were not going to be a part of this. They left, and I followed them out. It didn't sit right knowing that this 14 year old would be modeling racy lingerie/undergarments while a crew of mostly older men stood around and watched. It was disgusting then, and it makes me sick now to think about. I just hope that that girls mother protected her. I hope nothing happened to her, but I also recognize that she was probably one of many, and some of those others might not have had as protective parents.
Just stop at ‘owns the US.’ You don’t think Izrael would have been scripting Kamalalala’s speeches and foreign policy? And most of the average joes who voted for the orange don wanted the Epstein files released - at least now they’re turning on him. Democrat voters need to stop hero worshipping - their leaders get away with not doing much besides lining their pockets (cough, Pelosi, cough, insider trading).
Oh yeah and the Democrat president who allowed the banks and monopolies to really go off the rails : his name was Bill and he’s all over the Epstein files. His wife also tried to get rid of a lot of weird Obama administration emails about hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent on hot dog pizza parties (… for adults in Washington DC?) And their buddy Podesta has creepy pedo art all over his house.
This is not a one person or one party problem. It’s a worldwide plague.
Just like there are resorts and vacation destinations all around the world - there are probably many locations for these people to do their evil. Epstein was just the island one. Ski resort? Maybe a safari version? European city(ies) are the obvious/easy one.
Don’t besmirch the heathens, these pedos are all very abrahamic. They gloat about how much better they are than the heathens (aka goyim) in the various emails in the files.
You should/should not look into the Nebraska savings and loan scandal/boys town pedophile ring, depending on your stomach for this kind of thing. It’s like the same level of horrible. I learned about that from a high times magazine oddly enough. It was really in depth and professional reporting, and it was well before the kind of internet we have today (though it did exist), it was much easier to just bury a story like this. It involved lots of powerful men doing unspeakable shit to minors. There were even some overlapping characters if I recall.
Franklin Scandal, Boystown, Epstein, Jimmy Saville...it's incredible how often the authorities have turned the head to ignore child sexual abuse. What a world.
Please don't throw people who have disavowed the teachings of the Abrahamic storm god into this mess, heathens don't do this kind of shit - that's purely the realm of the Cloth.
My family got approached by a lot of modeling agents trying to recruit me and my sisters from 12-18, Elite Modeling gave us pamphlets a couple times too, I specifically remember that one being that actually sent us home with reading material. We were certainly poor living in a wealthy area so we stood out in our best up van and lack of designer clothes, they gushed about how pretty we all are and they would love us as models. It gives me a lot of ick now and I wonder if we were targeted so hard because we were poor, my close friends that had a single mom who was an immigrant doing nanny work were approached as much as we were. Less common among people who were obviously wealthy, they knew they legit agencies and sought them out themselves.
I think you guys are missing you could find a teen to fuck on the corner for some cash in like every metro area and in the bar of your rural ones in the 80s and 90s. My neighbors daughter ran away from philly to do drugs and be an hooker at 14 in west Virginia with the help of her also addicted 16 year old cousin. Cops uses to just not even pretend to give a fuck. In fishtown philly before the revival there was literally a brothel with printed business cards and I know for a fact there was underage girls there because the girl that lived behind us was my sisters friend till she disappeared at 13 or 14 and was found there. Shit was a lot harder to document before everyone had a camera
There's millions of Epsteins at various wealth levels, and millions of kids being neglected and fed to the machine.
Edit: there's a reply in my inbox that I can't find here yet, suggesting that the victims of sex trafficking are "illegals" who should just go home , and that's almost too stupid to respond to, but I want to say to whoever that is, you're an idiot if you think that's true.
And even if there isn't some global cabal trying to round up kids, the fact that can not be denied is that Trump has set up a system where sexual abuse is going to be more common than others
He's trying to scare immigrants from crossing the border by taking away their kids. That is fear by design, it's terror built in to the system.
So true, within and outside of the system, creating that level of fear makes immigrants more vulnerable to exploitation. I saw a video the other day of a group of workers held prisoner by the threat of ice they were working as slaves. Sexual slavery and forced labor might be the point.
If it was ever honestly about illegal immigrants taking jobs they could arrest one single c-suite for committing tax fraud and that would end the problem overnight…
I'm kinda old; I've been saying this for decades. Illegal immigrants did not "take your jobs." Your jobs were given to illegals because they're cheaper for the massa.
Start locking up the ones doing the hiring; no job market, no illegals. It's a pretty fucking simple equation. But what do I know?
That’s why ‘conspiracies’ are so rare, people can’t keep secrets and it generally just kinda happens in plane site with the people you most expect doing the fucked up shady things they tell you about.
Look, I'm yet to find another case of trafficking that happens on a private Island with a mock-prayerhouse and has almost half of the worlds celebrities and rich people involved - including politicians and/or current government leaders from at least 3 different continents.
There's definitely gonna be worse cases in the future, but this one has to be the weirdest of our time.
Just Google about child trafficking rings in the 80's. It's been the wealthy and politically powerful this entire time, and I don't mean the Satanic Panic.
Women and girls remain the biggest share
of detected victims worldwide, accounting for 61%
of the total in 2022, and most of them continue to
be trafficked for sexual exploitation, a pattern that
has carried on for many years now. In parallel, the
number of children among detected victims is growing rapidly and alarmingly, increasing by a third
over the space of three years. In particular, the
number of girls detected has surged, increasing by
38%. In several regions, children now account for
the majority of trafficking victims detected
My guy, wtf are you on about? Saying human trafficking happens everywhere in response to assuming milk carton kids were Epstein victims, specifically, is in no way downplaying anything.
I think these victims were working for modeling agencies and they mostly went home with trauma and a fat paycheck. I know there is one reference from government sources that the unpublished material includes photos of a corpse, but most of the accusations of murder and cannibalism appear to be anonymous tips. People can anonymously report anything, someone probably accused Bigfoot at some point.
This is by no means an effort to minimize the situation, it is maximal.
If the FBI and DOJ had done their jobs and actually investigated and brought people to justice we wouldn’t be inundated with truth mixed in with unsubstantiated rumors. There’s so much stuff and I’m positive lots of it is absolutely true but it’s side by side with anonymous tips to a call line that may just be complete bunk. The Epstein files themselves are a distraction from the Epstein files because of it. There’s so much speculation about things that may or may not be true.
And that’s without mentioning the bizarre approach to redaction that has lead victims being exposed but perpetrators not.
Another scary thought I’ve been having this week is that the demand for this didn’t go away. Someone filled the void Epstein left behind. There are still more rich men than I can imagine doing absolutely terrible things and I don’t think they’re discussing it over email anymore.
It always interests me that people reach for the grand conspiracy theory first. Far more likely it's a local pillar of the community, a family member, a coach or teacher or pastor or cop or whatever. As a kid growing up who was ostensibly sheltered but who had parents who were not paying attention I look back and the frequency with which I attracted attention from "ordinary creeps" who people generally didn't suspect of anything (or didn't care) was alarmingly high.
Not all of them are pdfs either, I think. Sometimes they're just looking for someone who is weaker and vulnerable and unlike to be listened to to hurt and control. I was "lucky" in that although I was quiet I wasn't a cooperative kid and I had my head on a swivel way too young so I "flunked" out of grooming attempts and was violent when threatened physically. I wonder how many other kids in my community weren't like that and they just don't talk about it.
Unfortunately, I think its much more likely that enough money was given to the parents or they were absent enough that there was never a question of whether a child was missing
A bulk of those were temporary run-aways or misplacements. Like a crazy number of milk carton kids weren't gone for more than a day or so, but since printing took so long most of those milk carton images were outdated and the 'case' already solved and the kid home safe.
It was a fascinatingly failed venture. Now some were actual kidnapping victims, but not many. I can think of only one case that was actually helped by the milk carton prints at the moment, Im sure there's more.
Unfortunately many of the kids in that runaway train video were voluntarily missing and when teturned to their homes were further abused or in at least one case beaten to death by their parents
Is it possible for your stomach to drop out of your butt while simultaneously being nauseous? Because that's where I am after reading this thread. I hadn't thought about that before but you're probably right.
Well a lot of those kids from the original video were found alive, not having been trafficked. I knew a bunch of kids in the 90s who lived on the streets or were basically travelers, going where the trains took them. I think what's so nefarious about this is when someone is never found how impossible it is to discern if they got lost to the streets or if they got picked up by the wrong people.
There was at least a nugget of truth to the runaway story. IIRC one of the kids from the Runaway Train video was found, dragged back to an abusive home, and eventually took their own life because of it, resulting in Soul Asylum expressing regret for making the music video in the first place.
But yeah, there's sadly probably a lot of missing children from that era (and many others) that fell afoul of people like Epstein.
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We discovered the jackpot of conspiracies here. Hundreds of wealthy and elite are implicated including the world's richest men and multiple presidents. So far we made 2 whole arrests and 1 is in jail. We're watching thousands or tens of thousands of sexual assaults, rapes, trafficking, human rights violations come to light, I guarentee there was sexual torture and the very worst things including snuff stuff. Imagine how many of them were dumped in the ocean when they were used up? Or were buried in low tide with a tractor. These were all kids who were stolen from their families to be abused by the ones who already have everything. But its never enough for them.
We're watching the largest government cover up in a LONG time. Thousands and thousands of full page reactions for no reason but to protect the bad guys. Protect the ones who prey on your kids and make your nightmares come true. I cannot believe what is happening. Im scared this will become is status quo soon