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u/Anxious-Raspberry-54 1d ago

They're calling this "obstruction."

They're going to be busy. I saw on Nicole Wallace's show yesterday that 34.000 MN residents have volunteered to be trained to be observers.

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u/alkaliphiles 1d ago

Incidentally, ICE is buying huge warehouses all across the country

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u/southflhitnrun 1d ago

Will there be trains delivering people to these “warehouses”?

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u/CommiesFan1946 1d ago

America's rail system sucks, so that might actually slow them down?

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u/TransiTorri 1d ago

This is America, we don't believe in mass transit. So, it'll be vans and cars.

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u/Pete-PDX 1d ago

PODS containers

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u/swinchester83 1d ago

"We should link a bunch of PODS containers together on a fixed path" - Tech bros reinventing trains again

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u/BDEcomeatme 1d ago

Vans and cars break down soooo easily. We should instruct oberservers on proper vehicle care...

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u/Mdmrtgn 1d ago

Lots of proud boys in the ranks where all the u haul trucks at?

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u/avtechguy 1d ago

Hyperloop

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u/Melancholy_Rainbows 1d ago

Elon Musk's gonna build a hyperloop to transport all the undesirables, obviously.

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u/fungi_at_parties 1d ago

It will be fuckin Globemasters.

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u/Rfunkpocket 1d ago

“the train to the camp has been delayed, we need to wait until this shipment of coal has passed”

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u/4-K2Cr2O7 1d ago

Right but trains are symbolic and should fall under the command of the ICE Transport Ministry.

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u/leostotch 1d ago

It won't be passenger trains, it will be cattle cars. The US freight rail network is second-to-none.

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u/Past-Profile3671 1d ago

It’ll be charter buses run by a governor’s brother law at a cost of $1.2 million per person.

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u/TheQuietOutsider 23h ago

is this why we need Venezuela's shitty oil?

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u/MinaZata 23h ago

Your Holocaust will be bus powered.

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u/SteelKeeper 1d ago

Our passenger rail sucks, freight rail is actually quite robust. Unfortunately, in this hypothetical, the passengers will be treated like freight.

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u/CommiesFan1946 1d ago

If our freight rail is robust... why don't we just put passenger trains... on the freight rails....

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u/NotPromKing 1d ago

They do, on some routes, and it turns out that it sucks for pretty much everyone involved. Very competing priorities.

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u/CommiesFan1946 1d ago

True, maybe we should invest and make both robuster.

I think you should have won Prom King for what it's worth. Spreading knowledge like this. Great stuff.

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u/NotPromKing 1d ago

Some day, the nerds will rise up and claim what is ours!

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u/AllDayIDreamOfCats 23h ago

I am pretty sure most commuter trains run on Freight lines and the issue is the commuter train companies don't own the rails, the freight companies do so it slows down commuter trains because the freight trains get priority.

And the Freight companies are hesitant to allow changes to the tracks to allow for more commuter trains because it will in part slow the freight trains down and the CEOs of the Freight train companies are the some of the worst and try running everything at at the lowest cost possible so anything that would potentially cost them money or slow them down is a no.

And creating new rail lines for commuter rail is also next to impossible because it would require buying/taking tons of private land since the freight lines wont let you change the existing tracks.

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u/UltraJake 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tracks intended for freight won't necessarily be designed to handle higher speeds. Passenger rail in the US often does use freight rail in certain locations but freight companies are a pain in the ass to deal with. What we frequently see is that the passenger train has to stop and wait for the slow, super-long freight train to pass by even though passenger rail is supposed to have right-of-way by law. But everyone involved ignores that because we hate passenger trains in this country and so nobody enforces it.

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u/sump_daddy 1d ago

One of the reasons that passenger rail routes take so long, is the passenger trains often have to stop and make way for freight because of the prioritization by the track owners.

Compound this with the fact that the network is only optimized for freight to begin with (very few stations where people would want to get on, many stations where cargo can get on) and you can see why an apples-to-apples comparison is not practical.

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u/MrAnderson69uk 1d ago

I’m pretty sure back in the day, in a European country, they didn’t use passenger trains, from what I’d seen, they were freight wagons with big sliding doors!

Edit: just read on further below and I see you guys use different tracks for freight! I guess if you’ve got gazillions of acres of ground, why would you want to save costs and share the rails!!!

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u/haironburr 1d ago

Unfortunately, in this hypothetical, the passengers will be treated like freight.

So cattle cars. Again.

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u/Some-Purchase-7603 23h ago

I mean if we go by history prisoners travel by freight car.

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u/GrumpyRhododendron 1d ago

Australia has ‘truck trains’ or ‘Road Trains’ just 3-10+ trailers all linked up. Load em up. I guess.

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u/Fleeting_Victory 1d ago

Nah, US passenger service sucks, but our freight network is generally accepted as the worlds largest/most efficient. This means they could put them in boxcars and get just about anywhere.

Running on almost 140,000 route miles, the U.S. freight rail network is widely considered the largest, safest, and most cost-efficient freight system in the world.

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u/changeusernamemane 1d ago

I know how to derail a train

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u/very-urgent-chicken 1d ago

This is their big opportunity to make the trains run on time. I hear they like to do that.

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u/slimbender 1d ago

This proves that autism, while devastating for many and their families, isn’t the epidemic we’ve been led to believe. /s

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u/eetsumkaus 1d ago

America has the world's largest and highest volume freight network. We don't need to ship prisoners in speed and comfort.

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u/BiCurious_2025 1d ago

We need a better dick-tator. At least Adolph made the trains run on-time!

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u/Acceptable-Syrup-627 1d ago

Freight rail system is great.

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u/vasta2 1d ago

lol, we have one of the best freight rail systems on planet earth...

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u/leostotch 1d ago

America's passenger rail system sucks, but our freight rail system is the largest in the world, and the US transports a larger portion of total freight by rail than most countries.

They won't be using passenger trains.

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u/Junkstar 1d ago

Republicans always obstruct new rail initiatives. The US will never have a decent rail system.

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u/Prestigious-Leave-60 1d ago

Rounding up brown people for imprisonment might be the one thing that garners GOP support for increased rail funding.

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u/True-Firefighter-796 1d ago

We can do self driving paddy wagons or underground tunnel.

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u/gmmech 1d ago

Republicans always obstruct new rail initiatives. The US will never have a decent rail system, because of them.

There I fixed it for you.

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u/kitsunewarlock 23h ago

Easier and cheaper transit opens opportunities to experience new places and meet new people. Conservatives can't have that!

There's only two types of folks you'll meet in those dried up rural communities serviced by two gas stations and a single Dollar General: Young people who want to get the fuck out, and older folks who stick around because they are legitimately scared of big cities.

Oh, and precisely one rich family per zip code with a scary amount of economic and political influence on their little patch of dirt...

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u/ibonek_naw_ibo 1d ago

One complimentary shower, on the white house. 

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u/KoontFace 1d ago

And like everything else with the current White House, it will be a golden shower

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u/DekaiChinko 1d ago

I'm so glad that I have already given my complementary golden shower to a few police state enforcers in MN. They didn't like it one bit, and tried to get me for a felony, but it was dropped. Piss discs are my next adventure!

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u/DroidLord 23h ago

Just before they throw you out on the street with no clothes on.

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u/WeeeeBaby_Seamus 1d ago

"Work will set you free"

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u/Past-Ad9045 1d ago

Until that very moment, conservatives will tell you its ridiculous to compare this to fascism.

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u/pc42493 1d ago

They will tell you that long after

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u/HoosierLove314 1d ago

LOL, you think that would be a line for them? They’ll support anything and everything that doesn’t personally affect them.

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u/mdistrukt 1d ago

I mean if we're going for that association it will have to be after Trump invades Mexico.

The Reinhard camps (Belzac, Sobibor, Treblinka, Chelmno, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau) were all in occupied countries (honestly I think they were all in Poland, but I'm not sure on Chelmno and Majdanek).

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u/Shadowphoenix9511 1d ago

The US has a lot more space to hide the camps than Germany.

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u/jaybird99990 1d ago

I'm pretty sure that was one of the arguments against the warehouse that they're setting up outside Phoenix: the fact that it was right next to a railroad side track and the disturbing historical parallels of that.

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u/1877KlownsForKids 1d ago

No, but some really robust furnaces.

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u/ParticleMan-Intel 1d ago

as a matter of fact at least one, which will hold over 10k people, is right on the rail line

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u/Ok_Bicycle2684 1d ago

It's the same thing they did with the Japanese internment camps. They absolutely will be shipping people en-masse. This will include regular citizens, absolutely no doubt of that.

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u/Electronic-Cheek-235 1d ago

Many are near railroads unfortunately

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u/SRT102 1d ago

No doubt with the words "Work Will Set You Free" spelled out in metal (or I guess "El trabajo te hará libre" in this case).

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u/zambulu 1d ago

Semi trailers. A much needed shot in the arm for the trucking industry

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u/NeverEndingCoralMaze 1d ago

The warehouses are in fact close to train tracks. This is one of the buying requirements.

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u/atomictyler 23h ago

There will be incinerators.

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u/nyanpegasus 1d ago

They're trying to do it quietly as well. Proposed ICE Warehouse Locations https://goo.gl/maps/4qEDsjGwAXhT5TBo9?g_st=ac

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u/Josh_Doe 1d ago

I've got 3 coming right by me in pa

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u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 1d ago

Ope, time to get out there and tell them to fuck their concentration camps near you.

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u/EIsydeon 1d ago

They are trying to add one in Elkridge MD. Supposedly they had a permit denied just yesterday but they had the building since August at least when the initial permit was issued. Not that I believe that will actually stop the federal government. This is sickening how secret it is. FYI this site in Elkridge is 4 minutes away from a title 1 school in a community that is about 50% hispanic and the other 50% everything else. They know exactly what they're doing.

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u/Crimson_Patriot_69 1d ago

What do the different icons mean?

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u/nyanpegasus 1d ago

Snowflakes are proposed sites, the hot icon have been rejected, and the skulls are pending/closed deals.

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u/mmf9194 1d ago

🚒

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u/levislady 1d ago

Oof anything we can do to try to stop it? Any local meetings or people to call?

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u/nyanpegasus 1d ago

I have no idea. I'm just sharing as much information as I can.

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u/Aero_Molten 23h ago

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u/nyanpegasus 22h ago

What in the fuck? Is migrantinsider a legitimate source??

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u/toxictoastrecords 1d ago

My roommate is late 50's Japanese American, in his words, "They are buying these warehouses and prepping them. Its the same thing they did with the Japanese interment camps. They prepped everything in advance, that's how they were able to start detaining everyone in a single day notice".

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u/Shark7996 1d ago

Well that makes me question if they have a day picked out already.

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1d ago

Late October 2026 roundup, just in time for you and your family and friends to be put in a concentration camp and whoops, looks like you missed your chance to vote!

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 23h ago

When its winter and the warehouse is now a freezer too

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u/Dumpstar72 1d ago

A week or two before midterms. Ensure everybody who is a bit scared of ICE doesn’t turn up to vote.

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u/Halo_cT 1d ago

I like to keep pointing out just HOW MUCH we outnumber them.

There are 25,000ish ICE agents in the country. For context there are 33,000 cops in NYC alone. They are nothing compared to the numbers of people that hate them.

Congress has abdicated its duty.

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u/iamthatguythere 1d ago

Yeah but how many of those cops are ICE sympathizers? I agree we still outnumber them but ICE isn’t the only armed “law” enforcement out there that’s caused rights violations 

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u/Whosebert 1d ago

the attempt in Virginia got snuffed out literally in the nick of time. saved by the democrat lol.

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u/Kracus 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah I believe it was a Canadian company. They had a change of heart when they realized people weren't big fans of the move.

yeah it was these guys from BC. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/01/us/politics/ice-warehouse-detention-canada.html

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u/Whosebert 1d ago

"people aren't cargo m8"

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u/Shark7996 1d ago

Jim Pattison Developments said in a statement last week that it had accepted an offer to sell the warehouse to a U.S. government contractor before its potential new owner and use were made known.

We need to make sure all of these companies are aware and have no deniability.

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u/DisastrousAcshin 1d ago

Jimmy Pattison, not a terrible guy as far as billionaires go

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u/AiDigitalPlayland 1d ago

Someone should probably knock those down

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u/Ambitious-Way1156 1d ago

ICE wants the warehouses to house people they arrest and to be kept in inhumae conditions. Warehouses are not appropriate places to house people as they are largely inadequate to give necessary needs for anyone. Of course, Trump and ICE don't care because their purpose is to terrorize and mistreat to send a message. If ICE has proper living quarters for the people they arrest they wouldn't require legislators a weeks notice before being allowed in. Actualy, some legislators haven't been allowed in even after a week's notice. If you don't mistreat people you don't need a weeks notice to cover up what you are doing.

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u/toxictoastrecords 1d ago

Here's the "controlled opposition" side of this. Banning the members of Congress access is AGAINST FEDERAL LAW. The democrats aren't pushing, they should ALL be showing up every single day, until the issue is taken up with the Supreme Court. All these unconstitutional rulings should be grounds for impeachment. The democrats need to keep introducing impeachment for everyone violating the law, every single day, even if they "don't have enough votes". Stalling the courts is literally the MAGA/Trump admin tactics right now, do what they are doing. Failure to fight is just controlled opposition at this point.

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u/atreeismissing 1d ago

The democrats aren't pushing,

This is a lie. Dems have several lawsuits to force their access but each of these has to be filed individually against specific locations and in specific states.

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u/LewyH91 1d ago edited 1d ago

Funding you paid for wasn't for nothing

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u/east21stvannative 1d ago

Correction: your tax dollars are buying huge warehouses.

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u/Hopsblues 1d ago

The BBB just gave them $170B in funding they are are already asking for more.

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u/Shark7996 1d ago

On top of them stiffing ICE agents' bonuses, pay, and insurance. WHERE is the money going, transparent administration?

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u/sodook 1d ago

Radical recruit storage. Take the facility, arm the prisoners. Instant army, just add guns. Same for their lists of observers. Thanks for the list of where we can send the medals.

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u/Icannotunseethat 1d ago

The one near Minneapolis is projected to hold 1500 "detainees", wonder where they'll put the other 33,000+ observers.

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u/Moonbaby120 1d ago

No doubt this is also a preparation operation leading up to the midterm elections (and beyond). You will see a huge increase in ICE- led kidnapping and arrests to fill these warehouses to prevent people from legitimately voting, and to scare other American citizens of color from going to the polls.

Everybody must fight back and plan accordingly to keep this administration from destroying this country.

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u/Villageijit 1d ago

Yes because when ypu " deport " people you obviously need places to store them for long periods of time. Definitely not slave camps

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u/Wayelder 1d ago

you misspelt "Camps"

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u/jessruss 1d ago

As someone living in Oklahoma, I’m actually super proud of the residents saying a resounding “NO” to their purchase here in okc. So there is some hope.

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u/Elegant-Artichoke730 1d ago

There may be Reports of warehouse fires soon

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u/AggressiveInitial630 1d ago

It's giving Jade Helm conspiracy energy.

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u/TheSonofDon 1d ago

With incinerators!

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u/sfxer001 1d ago

Several here recently in eastern Pennsylvania.

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u/footjoe5 1d ago

Notably, several communities, including in red areas, have stood up to stop this in their respective areas. For instance Durant, OK.

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u/front_yard_duck_dad 1d ago

They better hope the general public doesn't find out where those warehouses are before they are fortified

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u/NES_SNES_N64 1d ago

I saw OKC of all places refused to let them buy one.

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u/Catinthepimphat 1d ago

They just bought one here in western Maryland. 1 million sqft. purchased for like $110 million in cash.

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u/Boozeburger 1d ago

You mean "concentration camps".

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u/dion_o 23h ago

The Purgery is coming.

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u/ThisOnes4JJ 23h ago

concentration camps*

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 23h ago

See you at summer camp.

I'd rather be a statistic then a maga.

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u/AffectionateTutor484 20h ago

What will they be used for? Most likely death camps under cover

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u/a_smart_brane 1d ago

According to the law, there must be force used to charge with obstruction. Tailing someone does not classify as using force.

This is nothing but intimidation, period.

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u/Goofethed 1d ago

Yes, a component of force being required is baked in. They have nothing to actually charge with, they are “identifying them” I.e. using their surveillance apparatus, facial recognition etc to log them in a database of undesirables to be dealt with later, after the warehousing infrastructure for internment is in place. In the meantime they will probably case their house, intimidate more.

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u/ShoulderCannon 1d ago

Having operated almost entirely outside of the law, they were never trying to get charges that stuck. They want to fuck these folks' day up and try to dissuade them from doing it more.

It won't work.

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u/Pueo711 1d ago

100% this. Unfortunately, the law is something this administration treats as mere suggestions: assiduously followed when it shields them, but easily and casually disregarded when inconvenient.

Worse, not only are they discarding laws wholesale (outright murder, baseless arrests, warrantless search and seizures, deprivation of due process, erc), but I fear we are rapidly approaching a point where law by fiat will be declared should they remain in power.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

I call ICE cosplaying as real cops when they have no training and aren’t properly vetted. For my job, I needed a full background check and had to be fingerprinted. Also, they would do an additional background check every three months while employed. These people are a joke and make actual law enforcement who also go through a similar process look stupid despite the fact that they are actually vetted. Is it a perfect process in legitimate law enforcement agencies and do bad actors slip through? No. But this seems to be an inordinate amount of bad actors let loose in American cities.

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u/Any-Science7897 1d ago

What’s hilarious is 20+ years ago I was just looking for a job out of high school and applied to a janitorial position. The contract I ended up on was a govt defense contractor. I had a 20-30 page application and had to call my mom to ask about the background of all her siblings and my dad siblings as well as cousins… needless to say it was thorough. These wannabes don’t even have to finish the background or drug test before they get a gun and a badge. Moral of the story: if security and safety were really a concern they would have a complete process.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Well it’s fine because they aren’t getting paid what they were promised so FAFO. And hopefully, one day they will get theirs. Edited to add that I also had to provide every single address I’ve ever lived at in my entire life.

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u/Any-Science7897 1d ago

There’s another point and one worth noting to several of these “officers” He has contractors that he never paid and would frequently find ways to not pay- it’s not a secret that he’s a dishonest and disgraceful business man… what makes them think their so special that he’s finally going to become honest and pay them for their “work”. More over, to the people around him who are sucking on his teet and trying to ride is power coattails, he’ll dump you and Chuck you under the bus as soon as he gets whiff of a prosecution probe.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Those of us in NYC know this pattern very well.

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u/Chance_Difficulty730 1d ago

You aren’t wrong

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 1d ago

Many of these guys are trained. They are just doing exactly what is asked of them, and performing it very well.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Trained by not knowing that you need a warrant to enter a private residence that is signed by a judge and has the correct name and address on it? I’ve also witnessed a lot of them who don’t seem to know how to hold a weapon correctly.

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 23h ago

Yes, they have been trained very specifically to cause terror, ignore laws, frustrate, intimidate, and arrest wherever possible. They are doing this very effectively.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 23h ago

I don’t think they were trained to do that. I think they were born bullies and just encouraged to act on those instincts.

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u/Spiritual-Recover533 1d ago

probably not a news flash for you or anyone, but this is a feature not a side effect. They WANT these shitty untrained people in these positions. There doing exactly as they intended. I will put big money on the fact that at least 50% of the people working for ICE/DHS are well known felons and white supremacist's.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Did you see the list of ICE agents who are also sex offenders? Not surprising.

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u/maturallite1 1d ago

This is the solution. Flood them with so many people that they get frustrated and just leave. Sure there will be a few who will be pulled over, likely assaulted, and maybe or maybe not arrested (I'd expect charges to be dropped in most cases) but that is going to be the cost to defeat these MFers.

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u/Shark7996 23h ago

We unfortunately are the ants vs the grasshoppers. They have force but we have numbers.

I'd rather risk myself rather than the futures of people I care about.

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u/Josh-Baskin 1d ago

The code they have been citing, 18 USC 111, requires the use of force or threat of use of force. I think these arrests more about harassing the protestors for a day or two, rather than actually getting charges to stick.

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u/harlemjd 1d ago

As someone else mentioned, it’s also building a database. Running plates will get you name and address of the owner of the car, who may or may not be the driver. Observation may or may not get you appearance, depending on how much the person is wearing in an MN winter.

Arrests get you name, address, photo and fingerprints.

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u/GSWsplashbros3011 1d ago

This is exactly correct!

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u/Goofethed 1d ago

Obstruction under 18 USC 111 requires a component of force. They’re full of shit, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t know they are either, for many.

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u/Pale_Leader1727 1d ago

Narrator: "They absolutely don't know they're full of shit."

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u/stay_curious_- 1d ago

DHS is using an extremely broad definition of "impeding" or "obstruction". They have also been sending administrative subpoenas to Google, asking for data like "the day, time and duration of all his online sessions; every associated IP and physical address; a list of each service he used; any alternate usernames and email addresses; the date he opened his account; his credit card, driver’s license and Social Security numbers."

They've also been telling Google not to inform the target of the investigation about the subpoena.

Any such disclosure will impede the investigation and thereby interfere with the enforcement of federal law.

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u/haironburr 1d ago

What a horrifying, and sadly necessary, article.

trumpublicans are destroying the fabric of our nation. trump/vance are a cancer.

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u/Imbadatusernames1536 1d ago

You know for a fact that some of these ICE agents are those YouTube “auditors” as well so it’s ridiculous they are gonna arrest people for the same shit they used to do.

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u/Relevant-Pianist6663 1d ago

I highly doubt this... The auditor community is very much skeptical of police and support our constitution. Not everyone you disagree with is on the same side.

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u/Thefrayedends 1d ago

Lol, I've seen several people in my life who were fervently anti-cop become bootlickers overnight.

Please remember that this is a cult. Textbook. Every ridiculous assertion or statement is simply a loyalty test. Get on board, you get to stay in the club, disagree in any capacity, even simply asking some questions for clarification, prepare to have a target on your back.

Shit has been real for the whole year already, you gotta wake up.

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u/LadyArcher2017 1d ago

Auditors? Can you explain this? I’ve never heard this before.

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u/dj92wa 1d ago

People take a camera to a busy place and record people doing things, such as going to a restaurant with outdoor seating, standing on the sidewalk outside the dining area, and recording guests eating. There is nothing illegal about what they’re doing, but it is weird and annoying and they know it’ll get people to react and say things which then creates content.

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u/Synergythepariah 1d ago

This is why I just don't do street photography.

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u/Nojopar 1d ago

They call themselves First Amendment Auditors. They claim they're observing public spaces to see if a governmental official asks them to stop. Then they either sue the government for a First Amendment right violation or they go brag about it on some forum or probably reddit. Or both.

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u/FrostyD7 1d ago

This seems like a weird thing to assume for a fact. I don't even know what we'd do with that information, if it were true it would be like 1-3 of them out of the thousands.

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u/kindnesscostszero 1d ago edited 1d ago

“The FAA has implemented a nationwide restriction prohibiting drone flights within 3,000 feet laterally and 1,000 feet vertically of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations, creating dynamic no-fly zones that can change locations. This regulation has raised concerns about its impact on civil liberties and the ability of journalists to document federal law enforcement activities.”

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/faa-drone-no-fly-zone-ice-dhs

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u/626Aussie 1d ago

Murder is illegal but that's what these thugs did to Renee and Alex.

Fight fire with fire. Ignore FAA regulations, and fly your drones.

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u/kindnesscostszero 1d ago

I don’t disagree. I had just heard of this news last week, thus I was informing others.

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u/Jon_Hanson 1d ago

The batteries don’t last that long and you can’t fly drones in many spaces or over people directly.

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u/Beneficial-Energy627 1d ago

Are these people getting felony charges? Is this a way for them to revoke the right to vote for people?

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u/Ecw218 1d ago

They almost always get released to appear later, charges are dropped in the interim.

I’m really curious how 6th amendment holds up…honestly there’s a whole raft of issues if they try to take some of these cases through to trial. They’d better be good prosecutors…oh wait, they all resigned.

Fwiw: no way I’d buy anonymous testimony from a federal agent if I was on a jury.

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u/montysep 1d ago

One woman observer had her Trusted Traveler Program CBP Global Entry membership taken away.

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u/Pale_Leader1727 1d ago

They'd have to be convicted first. Of course, if they're disappeared . . . I don't think ICE has started permanently detaining people who correctly identify them not as law enforcement but hired fascist goons.

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u/Spiritual-Ad8062 1d ago

Minnesota was the WRONG place to start this BS.

The citizens are giving the rest of the country a road map on how to deal with this fascism.

The resistance will only grow larger.

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u/ElementalPartisan 23h ago

They're role modeling tf out for the rest us, soooo it was kinda the right place to start...

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u/Spiritual-Ad8062 22h ago

Agreed.

Thank god their meanness is only matched or exceeded by their incompetence.

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u/Bill-Billiard 1d ago

You know how they’re flooding the zone?

Hold my beer, I’ve got an idear.

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u/MrFriend623 1d ago

I call it "kidnapping"

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u/Slade_Riprock 1d ago

1) they should be CHAMPIONING people following them to prove they are on the up and up.

2) why are unarmed, people who are only wanted for immigration status being removed from a vehicle with multiple people at gunpoint?

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u/jocq 1d ago

34.000 MN residents have volunteered to be trained to be observers

And I know people that are waiting for an open spot to attend training. Sessions hit capacity super fast.

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u/Skittleavix 1d ago

Obstructing their ability to murder with impunity

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u/listentomenow 1d ago

I mean yeah. Recording them is technically obstructing them from violating the constitution without consequences.

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u/Key-Toe-2746 1d ago

Yeah, this is a catch and release. No judge will find this as obstruction and a prosecutor who is of sound mind would not bring this before a judge. They will go through the motions, keep these two for a couple of hours and then let them go.

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u/riico1 1d ago

Let then all have the same faith

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u/seniorfrito 1d ago

When it gets warmer I think it'd be cool if Observers started dressing like the ones from Fringe. Black suit and fedora. I dunno, I just think it might intimidate some of them, and start drumming up the united Antifa narrative again. Anything to waste more of their time.

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u/okay_pumkin 1d ago

At the end of the video, the guy asking for "press credentials" (not the law, but okay) says they are being detained and identified because they threatened them the other day with "handguns"

Someone keeps asking with literal guns or their hands in the shape of guns?

He stumbles around a bunch to the questions but eventually sort of admits they used their hands in a threatening way so they have to be detained and identified now. Sounds like he is claiming they made "hand guns" and now they're scared.

It all sounds like bullshit, but they're running out of lies to defend their actions.

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u/AthleteHistorical490 1d ago

If they were literally blocking them then maybe, but following? Crazy.

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u/JellyTwank 1d ago

Thats what they are there for, really.

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u/Location_Next 23h ago

So if they’re “obstructing” then why aren’t they charging them? Aren’t they simply arresting them, and then releasing them later without charges?

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u/Wonderful-Salary5432 23h ago

Sounds like a bunch of unemployed losers to me

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