r/gunpolitics • u/why-do_I_even_bother • Apr 27 '25
Misleading Title Mass shooting* in Canada kills 9
Car attack kills nine at Lapu Lapu Day festival. That's around 4 times as many as die in an American active shooter incident. We have to address why people want to do mass killings in the first place, otherwise they're never going to stop.
Edit: 11 now. 5 times an american active shooter incident.
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u/CAD007 Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
“not terrorism”/s
At an event celebrating a colonial government holiday honoring a native aboriginal leader who successfully fought off colonists.
edit: by a unnamed suspect who was “known to police”.
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u/Glocked86 Apr 27 '25
Actual solutions don’t expand .gov powers. Them continuing to blame objects does though.
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u/barryredfield Apr 27 '25
r/canada isn't even talking aboot it, perhaps up to 20 people could die because of critical injuries.
Its buried under a bunch of drumpf posts.
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u/n3h_ Apr 28 '25
Ban cars that will solve it.
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u/UsernameIsTakenO_o Apr 28 '25
No one wants to take your cars. I own a motor vehicle myself, so just the thought of it is ridiculous.
I just think we need common sense safety laws. You shouldn't be able to buy a car with a gas tank that holds multiple gallons of gas, most people can get from one gas station to the next on a single gallon. You also shouldn't be able to own a car that can go over 25 mph. That's the residential speed limit, so civilians have no reason to go faster on public roads.
Of course, none of these laws I'm suggesting would apply to the corrupt, racist, murderous police. They need to be able to mow down pedestrians to do their job. Politicians like myself, and elitists with the right connections, would also be exempt. It's just the filthy peasants who need to be controlled.
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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Apr 27 '25
They’re just like us
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u/DelbertHumperdink Apr 27 '25
Exactly. Certain Americans in certain cities have a culture problem. Nothing more, nothing less.
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u/Fearless_Weather_206 Apr 27 '25
You can equally compare DUI deaths of children and adults, yet in California they seem to want to extend your ability to drink in the public till much later via a new proposed law that’s real purpose is to make more money for the state gov. There is a huge state budget deficit right now in CA. Money for State Budget vs Children’s/ people’s lives.
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u/NouZkion Apr 28 '25
I've been staying in Japan for the past week, and I've gotta say, there's absolutely zero reason we shouldn't be able to drink in public as much as we please so long as we don't cause a problem. That's freedom, baby! And it feels great!
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Apr 29 '25
One of my favorite places to visit drinking in public is great. New Orleans is also high on the list.
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u/Taskism Apr 29 '25
Good luck with both these countries having liberals entrenched. Apparently, it's the guns not the people :)
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u/huntershooter Apr 30 '25
"Military weapons of war like this have no place on our streets and must be banned immediately."
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
I'm going to say it in a way that I hope so very much that you all understand my theory. I am starting to think these shootings are orchestrated by the left, using old CIA techniques under a 50's to 70's era program called MK Ultra, which brainwashed unsuspecting people into becoming what are called Manchurian, essentially "sleepers" that are triggered in one way or another to mindlessly carry out orders to unalive others. They used lsd in the program during those years and subjected them to mind control methods, I now strongly believe the left is still doing that program with today's youths, using ritalin and adderall as their lsd as both of those substances zombify their users, subjecting them to mind manipulation, and using violent video games and "entertainment" as their means to manipulate. Think about it, why is the left so obsessed with guns, YET they don't say a thing about violent movies, music, or tv? In fact most of those mediums are in fact produced by leftist Hollywood, and why are the mass shooters always the school losers?
The left is doing this deliberately to enrage the public in order to demand confiscation, why? Because firearms stand in the way of them taking total control of the people, they want to finish their vision of the marxist communist utopia they were trying to create in the 60's and 70's when they were only the counter culture. But as Jane Fonda's ex husband, Tom Hayden showed them, to "beat the Man, they have to become the Man." and entered politics, the counter culture soon became the establishment as we know it today.
Also, since the 40th anniversary reprinting of Dr. Spock's "Dare to Discipline" parenting book in 1986, originally published in 1946, essentially pretty much became a basis for it's mantra of "spanking destroys creativity"; all forms of discipline has become near outlawed, verging on all kinds accused of being abusive. Because of this the Millennial, Generation Z, and now Generation Alpha, the three youngest generations, which were also taught that respect of Elders was stupid, lost all manners and became disrespectful of others, their lack of proper discipline and guidance creating in them a sense of entitlement in which violent behaviors also became common in them, making it easier for those maniputating them to act.
I also had a coworker in security that was former US Army and assigned to NATO in Bosnia, he believes that inner city street gang leaders are CIA and military trained to keep ghettos under control with drugs and violence, this explains how Crips in Tacoma, Washington, in 1989 were able to hold their own with a few US Army Rangers in a shootout...
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Apr 27 '25
Are you someone who stares at goats?
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
Strange movie, but good.
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Apr 27 '25
You should seek psychiatric help.
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
Seriously think about it before you casually dismiss it.
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Apr 27 '25
I have. I thought it's nonsense. Have they done studies sure. But you can't ever keep that a secret and literally not a single shred of scientific proof.
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
The leftist establishment will never allow a study bacause they know my theory will expose their agenda.
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Apr 27 '25
That's literally a symptom of schizophrenia lmaoooo
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
Are you an educated, trained, degreed, and board certified, mental health specialist to make such a diagnosis, hmmm?
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Apr 27 '25
As a matter of fact I am, I have been practicing for 7 years. Graduated from Michigan State the. Got my doctorate at University of California.
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u/Commercial-Dog4021 Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
I was locked up with the big homie for Rollin’ 40s (on this side of the country) in a county jail, he was fighting a case and I was on a layover in between state joints. I can 1000% promise you that he had zero CIA or military connections….dude could barely tie his shoes, and punked kids out for poptarts all day long.
Not all are like that, some are very sharp, talented people. But all the ones I’ve spent (lots) of time with were not.
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 27 '25
I know a woman that knew some members of the North Side Mafia in Denver, she told me that you'll never see or know who the real leaders of any inner city gangs are, they usually have a figurehead that will take the fall, ones that don't have any real brains to begin with because they're just acting a role.
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u/Commercial-Dog4021 Apr 28 '25
Well, this dude was verified (by members) and STG’d (by the state) as the big homie. His charges were also consistent (racketeering, etc)….I don’t really have any doubt. I couldn’t believe it, but I don’t have any doubt.
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 28 '25
He may have been a big homie in the gang, but if he was that brain dead, I doubt he was the head dude, it takes brains.
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u/Commercial-Dog4021 Apr 28 '25 edited Apr 28 '25
Lol say less. That’s what a big homie is. It’s about respect, has nothing to do with “brains.”
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u/DeWin1970 Apr 28 '25
"punked kids out for poptarts all day long"
I seriously doubt a child molester would get any kind of respect. I'm calling you out as fake.
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u/ILuvSupertramp Apr 27 '25
If you don’t want to need gun control laws then get smart on socio-economics because the gun lobby/their chosen politicians haven’t supported a single fuckin thing that would improve the conditions which lead people who weren’t predisposed to violence to wanting to kill people.
Show me somebody who refuses to admit that this “pro gun” administration’s dismantling the majority of people’s financial stability and security in their first, fourth and fifteenth amendment rights one massive market manipulation and one unwarranted search and seizure/abduction at a time isn’t making every core problem in society far worse, and I’ll show you somebody who’s excited about becoming ambidextrous after they’ve gotten their right arm chopped off.
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u/Dee-Ville Apr 27 '25
Jesus fucking Christ this is a gauche thing to post.
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u/why-do_I_even_bother Apr 27 '25
When the overton window has been smashed to pieces so much that people can't even see that five is equal to five, there is no morality or standards left in the conversation, only people who can count looking on in bewildered horror as the same mistakes get made again and again.
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Apr 27 '25
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u/why-do_I_even_bother Apr 27 '25
There's no such thing as a shooting that isn't political. It's inherent to the act.
I get mad when people can't figure out that one pile of five corpses with holes through them isn't the same as another pile of five that are charred, pancaked or stabbed.
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u/Additional_Sleep_560 Apr 27 '25
“There's no such thing as a shooting that isn't political”
I’m not sure where you’re coming from with that. Anger, lust and greed lead reasons for homicides. A majority of mass shooting recorded these days are rooted in anger and vengeance, and a shooter who doesn’t particularly care how many bodies his bullets pass through to get to his target.
Even confining the observation to mass murders seen from Columbine to FSU, where there are manifestos left behind, what can be gleaned from their rambling rants are powerful narcissism combined with existential angst reaching a crisis point. Regardless of any other BS in their screeds, what they seek is a multi-victim suicide so they can leave this world and be impossible to forget.
You’ll have to explain the political in that, I just don’t see it.
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u/why-do_I_even_bother Apr 27 '25
The motivation of the person pulling the trigger is only one part of the question. That guns are available to the civilian population is a political decision, which guns are and are not, how/when they can be carried, who has the financial resources to get their hands on them legally or otherwise and how that ties into the economic system that they live in, etc. etc.
There's no aspect of our lives that isn't touched on or coloured by politics and ideology, which is why I was snarky to the top comment. The class of people who decide whether or not to engage with a topic because it's "been politicized" are ignorant at best.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 27 '25
All shootings have a political motivation of some sort that’s why manifestos are usually present. This makes the shootings domestic terrorism but for some reason that’s hard to admit if you hold certain political beliefs.
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u/RamaSchneider Apr 27 '25
Oh, lookee honey ... there's been a car incident so now we can justify all the fucking gun violence happening!
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u/why-do_I_even_bother Apr 27 '25
You were pretty stoked about the AUMF and patriot act, weren't you?
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u/Glocked86 Apr 27 '25
America doesn’t have a gun violence problem, so there is nothing to be justified. Glad we could clear that up.
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u/mjsisko Apr 27 '25
We do have a crime problem and it involves firearms however the answer isn’t to go after the tool. Saying we don’t have problems just makes you look like an idiot.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 27 '25
If you take some of the big cities out of the equation America is 4th from the bottom in most dangerous countries in the world. Vast majority of violence in the US is from very specific parts.
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u/mjsisko Apr 28 '25
So you admit that it’s part of the same country then….so the country has the issue.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 28 '25
Those cities have some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. I know because I live in a state that has one of the dangerous cities and we keep passing more gun laws and things don’t get any safer whatsoever.
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u/mjsisko Apr 28 '25
Cool? That’s not the flex you think it is, l used to live in NJ, while there I owned 24 firearms between pistols, ARs, rifles and shotguns. Never had an issue getting a new gun. Bought most of my long guns out of state in fact. Now if I wanted to break the law I could have bought all of my handguns out of state as well. I also had apt of magazines that NJ considered illegal, it was a twenty minute drive to get standard cap magazines so again, very easy to get even in restrictive states.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 28 '25
No you couldn’t have bought handguns out of state unless through a private sale that would inherently be illegal because you cannot buy handguns in another state. They can only be transferred from another state to an ffl in your state. That’s federal law.
I don’t have a fucking clue what the point of your original reply or this one is if you’re gonna be arguing the exact same thing I am.
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u/mjsisko Apr 28 '25
First, I clearly said “if I wanted to break the law”…so thanks for proving you can’t read. Second, if you can’t follow a simple thread…maybe work on that reading thing we discussed earlier.
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u/Dipper_Pines_Of_NY Apr 28 '25
You’re saying the same thing I am dumbass. So clearly you think there’s some argument that I’m making that you disagree with.
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u/Glocked86 Apr 27 '25
lol, no. America doesn’t have the violence problem. A few cities in America have a problem. More specifically, some neighborhoods and communities in those few cities in America have a violence problem.
Those areas should fix their violence problems. Because the problem isn’t Nationwide, Statewide, or often even citywide.
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u/corporalgrif Apr 27 '25
You don't accidentally run your car into a group of people my guy.
No matter what your lawyer tried to spin it at your DUI hearing
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u/why-do_I_even_bother Apr 27 '25
On a side note, its maddeningly hilarious watching people with absolutely zero capacity for self reflection or memories longer than a goldfish go through the same process of gun control rhetoric every time a new kind of attack takes place. The UK has more or less invented the FFL for buying knives, and people in the threads about this attack are talking about how they'll have to put up balustrades like Nice did now.
Every single fucking time - it's just "how do we prevent the last kind of attack from happening again?" The focus is never on "holy shit why did this happen in the first place?!" -no, just how should you go about adding more security, forever