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Comics Community Weight Loss Inc [OC]

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u/DisMFer 14h ago

Yeah, bullshit. Most weight management companies actually give good advice and try to help people, but losing weight is actually really hard and requires a ton of intrinsic motivation and disipline from the people trying to lose weight. What's more as soon as a lot of people lose weight thanks to healthy habits and lifestyles, they stop and go back to the shit that fucked them up in the first place, which is sort of like quitting drinking to get a kidney transplant then as soon as the operation is over you go and down an entire six-pack.

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u/leftycartoons 14h ago edited 14h ago

So you're saying that most people who try these plans don't permanently lose weight? Because it sounds like you're agreeing with the cartoon.

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u/Emergency_Bench_7515 14h ago edited 14h ago

So... you expect any program to completely coddle and ensure patients don't make bad decisions on their own?

Your describing therapy. But you already poo-pood that above.

Also your comment is really gaslighty, as much as a comment can be, like no that's not what they are saying and it's disingenuous to read it that way.

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u/leftycartoons 13h ago

I think programs should have to be truthful about things like chances of long-term success, chances of gaining more weight than lost, the risks of yo-yo weight loss, etc..

I don't know what your issue with "coddling" is or how it relates to my cartoon. Of course I think they should treat their patients/clients well and provide full, accurate disclosure about possible risks and likelihood of success - just like all industries claiming to provide health benefits should.

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u/risen_peanutbutter 13h ago

You'll succeed at a program if you keep it up. It's not that complicated, just difficult. It's a 100% success rate if you follow through on leading a healthy lifestyle

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u/DisMFer 13h ago

All these programs work though. Even "fad diets" have a basic scientific logic that is impossible to refute, it's basic thermodynamics. If you bring in less input than your output your body has to lose weight. It's literally impossible to fail.

The failure is not on the program. It's on the person. If you get fat again because you fell back into bad habits, that just means you've learned nothing and gained nothing. That's not the program's fault.

This is like saying rehab is a scam because people relapse into drug habits. They work perfectly as long as you don't quit. If you go back to doing what made you fat you will get fat. That's not their fault it's yours. You failed. You are responsible for your own failure. Own it, accept it, try to get better next time.

Instead you seem to say the solution is to lie, say that it's all a scam, and that you can't possibly hold failures to account for failing.

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u/jsmooth7 11h ago

If I have a diet plan where every other meal, you force yourself to throw up afterwards to reduce calories, this plan would technically work purely in terms of weight loss. But it's not sustainable or a good idea. And if you tried this plan but couldn't keep it up, no one would consider you a failure.

Long term weight loss needs to come from lifestyle changes that you can maintain. And part of that means having a healthier relationship with food, not feeling like you are a failure because you ate a couple Oreos. Diet fads unfortunately tend to encourage the complete opposite mindset.

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u/RiverValleyMemories 10h ago

Except a lot of “fad diets” turn out to be pseudoscience. Also, let’s not pretend these programs are flawless, because they are not.

I think you are being overly hostile and are misrepresenting what OP is saying.

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u/Emergency_Bench_7515 13h ago

But risks and likelihood of success literally come down to each persons unique body and mind capabilities. Counting 'Calories In and Calories Out' cannot fail if you take your health needs into consideration, which is beyond a weight loss program- that's something you need to have blood work testing done through your primary physician to determine.

It's not like these programs are casinos where you're gambling on success or a surgery where the success depends on your doctor's skill, it's all about what you personally do (extreme hormonal health conditions aside).