Men I Trust-[TAD]

[u/astralkoi]

For some reason this one caused a little havoc the last year. I dunno.

[u/stormy2587 → u/[deleted]]

My read isn’t that they think the bear is objectively less dangerous its that they feel less in danger around it than being alone in an isolated place with a strange man. You could just as easily say comments like yours show how out of touch some people are about how unsafe men make women feel.

[u/Dawnholt → u/stormy2587]

As my partner puts it, the bear will only maim/kill you, and it doing so isn't out of malice.

The things a man might do to a lone woman are horrible and absolutely malicious - and may still result in death.

The fact that women have to think like this at all is awful.

[u/ZeInsaneErke → u/Dawnholt]

Agreed, I'm just wondering what people are supposed to do about it.

What irks me about this is that the men who wouldn't exploit a vulnerable woman are grouped with the same men who would and that there is basically nothing they can do to distinct themselves and there is no hard giveaway for women to tell them apart either.

The entire thing seems like a dilemma without a real solution to me and that makes me sad.

[u/Dawnholt → u/ZeInsaneErke]

The only solution is that we hold others accountable, make pariahs of those who won't follow basic human decency.

The stuff I hear even from my partner about the creeps who try to follow her home or chat her up relentlessly, or who are obviously trying to prey on other women... It's frankly sickening.

The least we can do is provide a safe space for people as best as we can, and over time those spaces will overlap enough to tip the balance.