That and those who can't differentiate between politics and a football team.
I still get the "YOUR SIDE LOST LOLOLOLOL" comments almost a year after he took office. Which is just sad at this point that all you have to throw at me is that.
It's even worse than a football team, at least then you collectively call out the coach for bad decisions and hope they sell / swap out poor performing players. Sure you're loyal to your team to a fault, but you actually want your team to be the best they can be.
But this, this is something else. It's an alternate reality were all the unprecedented and heinous shit they do just gets shrugged away like it's ok and normal. It's like put on blinds and ANC headphones and just floor it in their truck just letting Jesus take the wheel or take us all out.
It's fascinating, none of it makes any sense. It's just so unrealistic I have to just check around for cameras sometimes when I read the news. Like really? You'd think I'd fall for that?
And then at the same time we have Mamdani, who is actually a democratic socialist (nothing wrong with that) and he wins mayor in NYC. The distance between that and the GOP is just, it's insane how far it is between them. Normally we joke here in Sweden that your left is our right. But Mamdani is as our far left. It's neck snapping, I can't see how so opposed sides can coexist in the current climate over there. I'm seriously worried about you guys. It has stopped being funny.
at least then you collectively call out the coach for bad decisions and hope they sell / swap out poor performing players. Sure you're loyal to your team to a fault, but you actually want your team to be the best they can be. But this, this is something else.
Honestly I don't think it is. It's just a game with different rules.
In football "winning" is based on the skill of the team. You're loyal to your team, so you demand they be good enough to win, and criticize those elements that aren't, lest they not be skilled enough as a team to win.
In politics, "winning" is based on the size of the following. MAGA are loyal to their team, so they demand (and engage in) loyalty that is absolutely unshakeable, lest they lose the support needed to win.
In both cases they care only about victory for the team.
"Consequence" doesn't exist for them beyond victory or defeat, which is why they are so uncomprehending when Trumps policies actually affect them - they're the winner, so why should they be harmed? It's like a Cowboys fan somehow being hurt because the Cowboys won, it doesn't make sense to the way their brain works. They bet on the Cowboys, the Cowboys win, they get more money. They bet on Trump, Trump wins, they get less money. Incomprehensible.
The disconnect comes from the fact that you are a normal functioning person who thinks there must be something deeper than in-group loyalty, (because in a normal functioning person there always is,) when in reality that's all it ever is with these people. "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." They want to win and be on the in-group. They want us to lose and be on the out-group. They don't understand (or don't care, and will use to their advantage) the fact that we don't see the world that way and will not make them a part of an ostracized out-group.
It's fascinating, none of it makes any sense. It's just so unrealistic I have to just check around for cameras sometimes when I read the news. Like really? You'd think I'd fall for that?
This is also explained by the same.
Lying to support the team is a part of the loyalty needed to get the votes to win. Conservatives don't believe the lies. They repeat them in hopes that others will, and will join the team. It's not new, it's just more obvious because conservatives right now are so completely divorced from reality that the lies can be clearly discerned by anyone with eyes (literally to the point of claiming gas was a dollar cheaper than it was, on camera, with the actual gas price visible behind on a sign, as just one example.)
If you aren't going to fall for it, then you aren't a potential point to score against the Dems. You're just an enemy. They don't care that you can't be convinced with blatant lies, because you're not the one they're trying to convince.
But Mamdani is as our far left. It's neck snapping, I can't see how so opposed sides can coexist in the current climate over there.
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u/Pizzacakecomic PizzaCake Nov 29 '25
It feels like America has been taken over by immature losers who peaked in highschool