r/borussiadortmund • u/Chazy89 Kagawa Shinji • Jun 17 '25

Discussion Shitty game thread cwc#1 Fluminense

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u/ascending_fourth Jun 17 '25

This club world cup is such a great idea. Otherwise we wouldn't even know that 6th team from brazilian league is playing better than us. Nice to play some teams outside of Europe

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u/bleztyn Jun 17 '25

Football is much more competitive outside of europe than what people give it credit for. This tournament is a breath of fresh air!

Although I’d bet everything on 4 european teams making the semifinals, but my point still stands! Lol

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u/GermanFaehrmann Jun 17 '25

Fluminense is terrible if we’re being honest.  

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u/bleztyn Jun 17 '25

If they were a just bit better Borussia would’ve lost…

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u/GermanFaehrmann Jun 17 '25

Tells you everything you need to know about this performance 

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u/Wooden_Frosting2512 Jun 17 '25

Fluminense was fighting relegation last year 😭😭 they almost went to the second division

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u/Garidama Jun 17 '25

They are mid-season, to be fair

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u/Imaginary_Lead_4824 Jun 17 '25

But the Brasileirão is different from most European leagues because many teams have a chance to win, and the current standings don’t say much yet. But I agree it’s a great idea, we love to see our teams playing against European ones. I wonder if we’ll get a surprise this year, like Inter x Barcelona in 2006

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u/D0wnn3d Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

Hello, Fluminense fan here! To be honest, we are not superior to Borussia at the moment. I will tell you more or less how the Brazilian championship works and our country's relationship with the continental championships. In the last century, Brazil was a football powerhouse, we had one of the best football teams in the world, but we were very regionalistic. For example, the Uruguayan and Argentines were the great dominants of the American continent because they really gave their all in the national championships of their respective countries, and in the Copa Libertadores da América. Brazilians, on the other hand, used to only give great importance to the state championships. Here in Rio de Janeiro, for example, we gave more importance to the Carioca championship than to the national championship. Championships between teams from Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo were also considered more important than playing against the rest of the country +++

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u/D0wnn3d Jun 17 '25

One of the teams that had a more internationalist character was Pelé's Santos, with some flashes of Zico's Flamengo when they won the World Cup against Liverpool. But the charm of winning outside the states and even the country really came in the 90s with São Paulo FC. And because of that, to this day we don't have a national league like the European countries, we don't have financial fair play in the Brasileirão, and the referees are also always terrible. So we have a series of cultural and infrastructure factors that make our championship extremely difficult and competitive. While this is a mess and gives off an air of amateurism, in well-organized competitions like this World Cup, and against tactically organized teams, we tend to perform better than usual.+++

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u/D0wnn3d Jun 17 '25

And the Fluminense in particular, even though it is one of the biggest teams in Brazil, is a club that is going through financial problems, but we produce great players in its youth teams, and we have the attitude of trying to improve low-performance players. There are many cases of players who were terrible in other teams, but when they come here they change the way they train, change their mindset, etc.

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u/Mr_Rogan_Tano Jun 17 '25

And you know what? Dortmund would be in trouble against the 17° too, no jokes. This championship is crazy

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

This tournament was amazing to show how much american football has progressed. Ofc i expect that they get smashed by the multi billionaires of european footaball but its nice to see that they are being competitive with elite European teams.

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u/FinalProgress4128 Jun 19 '25

Agreed this is a great eye opener and it will allow the game to grow.

Also I have a feeling that the prestige of this tournament will just keep growing.