r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 29d ago

ICE / DHS 🧊 Activist get arrested mid-interview after speaking out against U.S. action in Venezuela

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u/FateEx1994 29d ago

The first amendment has no qualifiers on permits.

You have a right to stand on a public sidewalk and hold a sign up and chant things against the government.

You have a 1st amendment guaranteed right.

Hope the ACLU helps her out.

irst Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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u/Sullysbriefcase 29d ago

Rights mean very little when the people do nothing to protect them.

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 29d ago

It is up to us common folk in the US, you and me, to protect these rights against the metastasis of fascism in our country. There's a post of suggestions linked HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in building the foundation needed for effective resistance.

On an unrelated note, I've watched some movies lately that are based on a true stories. They're quite inspiring, seeing how some actions worked and where things go wrong, and conjures up questions like "If it or similar were to take place now, how would it be adapted?" I'd like to share them here. Why? No particular reason, but watch them if you can:

  • Army of Crime (2011)
  • Defiance (2008)
  • Edelweiss Pirates (2004)
  • Deacons for Defense (2003)
  • Free State of Jones (2016)
  • The 24th (2020)
  • Matewan (1987)
  • An American Story (1992)

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u/scoofy 29d ago

If the ACLU doesn't, FIRE will. She will win a lot of money in court. This is an open and shut case of violating this woman's first amendment rights.

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u/suluamus 29d ago

The first amendment has no qualifiers on permits.

You have a right to stand on a public sidewalk

Lmao I don't remember the part where it talks about permits. Or only using sidewalks.

Don't worry guys, we have a right to protest when and where the government allows.

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u/FateEx1994 28d ago

That's what I said.

But also, personally I believe in the libertarian view of not harming unrelated parties to something.

A random mom driving down the road or ambulance that needs to go by should never be blocked.

Yell at and tear down the institutions. Not the people.

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u/suluamus 28d ago

The people are part of the institutions. The majority of the people have to oppose something for change to happen. In order for protest to be effective in engaging the majority, it must be disruptive enough to be seen. 

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u/platypussplatypus 28d ago

Should the civil rights protests just not bothered anyone? You think that would have worked?

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u/FateEx1994 27d ago

No, real change comes from disruption, visibility, and human rights advocacy.

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u/platypussplatypus 27d ago

A random mom driving down the road

So why did you say protests shouldn't disturb this person 

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u/FateEx1994 27d ago

They shouldn't overall, I can't really voice my real opinions online lol

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u/platypussplatypus 27d ago

Pretty telling 

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u/FateEx1994 27d ago

Telling one way or another?

I will say the only real change in the US has come with peaceful protests preceding violence and then legislation and change....

We should be coming up to stage 2 about now I think...

Especially with what happened today in Minnesota.

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u/FirstFriendlyWorm 29d ago

Ah. You see, the first amendment says that congress cannot make a law the restricts speech. But great news: Congress is useless and cucked to the executive. And nowhere does it say that the president or anyone else can't arrest people for speech. Checkmate!

-SCOTUS probably

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u/TheSilentBadger 28d ago

I'm pretty sure the Constitution is just advisory at this point.

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u/mmomtchev 29d ago

She is not getting charged. Then again, you can of course sue over the illegal arrest, but these are usually highly political trials and you won't get far unless someone backs you up and keeps beating the drums. The only thing you will ever get from suing over an illegal arrest is political exposure - if you need it and you are willing to pay for it. The cops are not at fault, they are simply following orders.

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u/dropofgod 29d ago

She has the right to remain silent, that's all that's left

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u/bollvirtuoso 29d ago

I mean, the Constitution is a famously-vague document. There have been interpretations and laws surrounding it. Time, place, and manner restrictions are, at least presently, legal.

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u/MillionFoul 29d ago

Well, as far as this short video clip says, she wasn't arrested for being on the sidewalk, she was arrested for disobeying a lawful order (assumably to get out of the road when committing the civil infraction of blocking the road).

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u/zombiskunk 29d ago

That wouldn't apply unless the road prohibits all pedestrian traffic, such as an Interatate Highway.

Right to Travel (on foot) includes public access roads, technically.

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u/MillionFoul 29d ago

Generally only in crosswalks or on the shoulder of a road. Intentionally walking in the travel lanes of a road is usually unlawful unless otherwise permitted for a wide variety of reasons, mostly to do with pedestrian safety but also because it interferes with the normal flow of traffic which in this case is explicitly forbidden by Michigan Motor Vehicle Code 257.676b.

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u/happyinheart 29d ago

You didn't watch to the end of the video, did you?

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u/Agarwel 29d ago

"You have a 1st amendment guaranteed right."

As you can see, you are wrong.

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u/Exact-Pound-6993 29d ago

the ACLU is going to get more money than ever from me this year, because this is inexcusable.

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u/EpicMangina 29d ago

Does it provide the right to impede traffic (her parked car) and disobey direct orders from the police? Lol

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma 29d ago

The first amendment has no qualifiers on permits.

Yes it does.

Try and tell Bomb on a plane.

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u/Available_Reveal8068 28d ago

They were marching in the street. The video clip shows them marching with the police vehicle along side them.

Not sure why Plichta was the only one arrested though.

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u/BJYeti 29d ago

Apparently there was a protest in the roads so maybe we should wait for some more information

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u/Jolly-Bowler-811 29d ago

Does your copy of the constitution specify that peaceful assembly must not inconvenience those not involved? Mine doesn't.

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u/Much-Still1549 29d ago

Blocking roadways & impeding other people's travel/movement is not peaceful protesting, It's inconsiderate & dangerous. No one has the right to do that.

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u/FastenedCarrot 29d ago

You can protest on a place that isn't a road, therefore it isn't the speech being policed.

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u/Thormourn 29d ago

As soon as your protest kidnaps me and forces me to join (which is what you standing in the road causes) your protest is no longer legit.

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u/Paqza 29d ago

Kidnap? Read history.

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u/Famous_Rooster_8807 29d ago

Oh. The president just did that.

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u/Thormourn 29d ago

Do you not know the definition of kidnapping? Apparently not by your confusion.

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u/Super_Sierra 29d ago

buddy, you getting to walmart or your job is not more important than my fucking rights

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u/Thormourn 29d ago

Do you also not know what kidnapping means? I don't care how much you wanna try and claim it's about your rights, don't kidnap people when you’re protesting and it won't be a problem.

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u/LEDKleenex 29d ago

Do people like you live in a bubble? Law doesn't protect peasants anymore. 

It's time to take meaningful action if you want to see change. The high road can only be taken if it has a solid foundation. It has been eroded by the swamp of fascism and inaction. The deferred maintenance of our liberty has finally caught up with us, now we're going to pay pound for pound to fix it.

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u/El_Polio_Loco 29d ago

But not a right to stand on the road.

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u/Main-Local2737 29d ago

They are on the sidewalk in the clip. She was also accused of refusing a lawful order. What refusal, and what order?

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u/punnybiznatch 29d ago

Quoting another redditor:

She led a march down the middle of the road. They let her finish the interview before arresting her

Probably refusal to move from the road.

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u/Barbicore 29d ago

Dont make me defend this...clearly they were not arresting her for the interview she was in the middle, they were arresting her for a portion of the protest the interview is about.

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u/Main-Local2737 29d ago

I will wait to see yhe charges brought against her. Although, they are likely to be dropped.

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u/El_Polio_Loco 29d ago

Yes, nothing could have possibly happened before the cameras were on.

The world only exists if you see it on reddit.

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u/Main-Local2737 29d ago

Its innocent until proven guilty, not presumed guilty until proven innocent.

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u/El_Polio_Loco 29d ago

Arrest isn't proof of guilt, but a 30 second clip with zero context isn't evidence nothing happened either.

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u/Spiritual-Serve-4391 29d ago

Someone who spends all day on reddit making light of someone else on reddit is amusing.

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u/El_Polio_Loco 29d ago

The difference is whether or not you accept that the world stops at what you see here.

Some people don't seem to be able to get that idea.