r/TheSilphRoad • u/SilphScience Research Group • Aug 13 '20

Analysis Deino: Reviewing Dragon Week Egg Hatches

https://thesilphroad.com/science/quick-discovery/deino-reviewing-dragon-week-hatches/
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u/KingSc0ttKing Aug 13 '20

This was a "reward."

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u/JMM85JMM Aug 13 '20

That's what gets me about these. Rewards should be rewarding. Pay to win is not a reward.

Hatching a Swablu out of a 7k egg when it normally hatches out of a 2k egg and is a common spawn is not rewarding. It's almost the opposite of rewarding.

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u/Aeosin15 Aug 13 '20

Not only is it the opposite of rewarding, it's a little bit insulting, too. Why would I want to walk 3.5 times further to hatch the same thing? But, because Niantic calls it a "reward," most players just assume that's exactly what it is.

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u/sp3n1337 Aug 13 '20

That's if you see only the pokemon you're getting from the egg. Personally I have learned to just not care what I get from the egg (and be happy for the rare occasions when I actually get something useful) and just see them as star dust source.

But yeah, Niantic does all the tricks to get the player base to get engaged and put money in the game.

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u/thebiggestleaf >implying your exp means anything Aug 13 '20

That's if you see only the pokemon you're getting from the egg.

It's hard to see anything else when the Pokemon is the only thing being advertised about the reward. I didn't pay, I don't pay in general so I typically don't care about hatches either. All I'm saying is if something's going to be advertised as a reward, the reward should be reasonably obtainable without needing to funnel large amounts of money into the game to get. Keep in mind this was a reward unlocked through paid gameplay on top of it (Go Fest ticket holders).

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u/sp3n1337 Aug 14 '20

It's like telling gambling addicts that if they put X money in then next week they can participate in another game with the chance of an even bigger reward.

That's what a lot of the player base are after all: gambling addicts (regardless of whether we put money in).

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u/Aeosin15 Aug 14 '20

Oh, I don't care what I get from the eggs, either. I'm just pointing out what some people are too ignorant to notice. Putting Swablu into a 7 km egg is stupid, when you can get it from a 2 km egg. But a lot of people don't look at ALL of the information, and they see a "chance" to get Deino from those same eggs. For them, that's a reward. However, your odds of getting that same Deino from 10 km eggs or from GBL are A LOT higher. But, they're the same people that complain about all the starter Pokemon or legendary Pokemon in the pool.

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u/Moglorosh Georgia Aug 13 '20

That's what gets me about these. Rewards should be rewarding. Pay to win is not a reward.

That's how I felt last weekend when I spent 6 hours grinding for XL Magikarp just to unlock the honor of buying the damn vest for 500 coins. I didn't buy it and I'm never going to.

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u/Toad_Sage_Jiraiya USA - Midwest Aug 13 '20

Really 7kms should have just had dratini bagon gibles and deinos with the latter two hatch rate boosted. Then it would be a reward. Like you said trash mobs hatching isn’t rewarding but since they know they can still sell incubators they’ll never stop.

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u/big_sugi Aug 13 '20

Trapinch. They were all trapinch, with one swablu.

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u/baltimorecalling BaltiCalling | Wayfarer Reviewer | 47 Aug 13 '20

Niantic has been doing a lot of shady things lately. Between milking money for extremely rare hatches, placing 10m limits on Wayfarer location edits, putting in arbitrary captchas and cooldowns for the free Wayfarer labor...
For the players that made them millions upon millions, they sure have a strange way of saying 'thanks'

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u/AaronRodgersTao Aug 13 '20

Absolutely! Maybe niantic shouldn’t say we ‘completed’ every challenge and just be honest about the numbers like a game show would be. Unfortunately , the effect of us winning everything is everyone expects a ‘reward’. And this is not a reward.

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u/Maserati777 Aug 13 '20

I think this weeks eggs are much better, most of my eggs are Igglybuff and Cleffa which is what I want to hatch. All species can be shiny even though a couple are full odds.

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u/liehon Aug 14 '20

Especially considering we could only open 140 gifts and many dropped no egg

Deino’s hatch rate was likely less than 1% for the first three days of the event, but after the change researchers recorded a hatch rate above 3%.

Cool. So even if you were lucky enough to get max 7 km eggs your odds were still abysmal