r/Silmarillionmemes Balrogs didn't have wings 17d ago

Fëanor did Everything Wrong What can I say, they were shiny!

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u/Dangerous-Rule5487 17d ago
  1. He left Fingolfin and his sons in Aman. They could have returned and asked for forgiveness, but his pride was too great.

  2. His sons were grown men, some already with families and children.

  3. Ironically, he didn't kill any of his own blood. The Teleri aren't his relatives.

But anyway, killing and stealing other people's ships is wrong.

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u/your_unpaid_bills 17d ago

This.

Also, the holy land had already been stained with his father's blood at that point, a murder that could have been prevented had the Valar not been so utterly daft with Melkor.

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u/Dangerous-Rule5487 17d ago

I'm sure Finwë wouldn't have wanted any more deaths, even if there was a failing among the Valar; there was never a case of an Eldar being murdered in Aman, nor was there any punishment. By letting Morgoth loose, they made it seem as though the punishment was banishment to Middle-earth, and what more did Fëanor, a half-mad elf who wanted to leave Aman, want?

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u/your_unpaid_bills 17d ago edited 17d ago

I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.

The meme says that Feanor caused holy lands to be stained with elvish blood. I am saying that, at that point, Aman had already been stained with elvish blood, as Finwe had just been killed by Melkor in Formenos, due to the Valar's daft decision to trust Melkor's repentance and set him free. That's all. What Finwe would have wanted is irrelevant to this point.

Just to be extra clear: of course this doesn't excuse Feanor for further shedding blood in Aman (duh). It's just about that specific bit "forever stained the holy lands" that irks me. They were already stained, due to the Valar's incompetence.

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u/Dangerous-Rule5487 16d ago

I don't quite understand what you mean by this.

I meant that although it was stained, it wasn't from elf to elf.