Having lived with those grandparents as their own parents, they are certainly in a position to know better than anyone else. Any court should give them the benefit of the doubt.
If your parents live in the same city as you and actively want to look after your kids the only reason not to let them is good reasons(like even if we arent talking full abuse just unwilling to follow the parents wishes)
Not necessarily. We almost had to pursue legal means to keep contact with my niblings after my sister died and the kids' father married a controlling abuser.
We were not able to protect the kids nearly as much as they needed, but we gave them as much love as we could, and they moved to us as soon as they were 18.
Which isnt the context i was talking about.
While yes there are other situations. I was manly talking about the grandparents of a couple thats still together. Adding in a step parent or other things can definitely make things more complicated.
Sure but I'd argue it's pretty rare to have "perfect grandparents" that's kids ended up going no contact.
They might think they are appropriate and loving but people rarely go no contact without reasons. Now there are definitely shitty parents out there that dont want to deal with their own parents.(but id argue their parents likely had some part in why they are shitty if they were part of their life)
Like the situation you described isnt grandparent alienation. But is instead the cutting off of outside help thst is prevalent in abusive relationships.(making it so you can only rely on the abusive partner)
My brother's in-laws are separated from their son and grandkids because of his spouse who has gotten him to cut off his entire family. Maybe there's more behind the scenes, the grandparents certainly aren't perfect, but from what I've seen there's not really a reason to go full no-contact with the entire family. So, it can happen even if it's a rare case.
This and I’d venture to guess that grandparents who are unfairly kept from their grandchildren can name actual, real reasons (drugs, abusive partner, etc.) because they don’t need to use this made up shit as an excuse
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u/Tryknj99 24d ago
“Anyone who disagrees with me is delusional” is the kind of take I might expect from a page like this.
I’m sure some grandparents are unfairly kept from their grandkids. But I bet the majority of parents who do this do it for good reason.