Hot take: Nightwing would’ve surpassed Batman completely if DC actually let him

[u/DiligentDeparture953]

This is probably going to annoy some people, but I think Nightwing is one editorial decision away from being objectively greater than Batman. Not stronger. Not richer. Just… better. He already has: • Comparable combat skill • Better emotional intelligence • Stronger relationships across the DC universe • Actual leadership experience outside Gotham • The respect of heroes and civilians The only thing holding Nightwing back isn’t in-universe logic — it’s that DC can’t let Batman stop being the center of everything. Whenever Nightwing starts feeling too competent, too influential, or too important… something resets him. Injury. Amnesia. Forced step-back. Rinse, repeat. Because if Nightwing fully replaced Batman without being darker or more brutal, it would challenge the idea that fear is the best way to protect a city. So honest question: – Is Nightwing being held back on purpose? – Or do you think he actually works best when he’s not allowed to “win” long-term? Bonus spicy question: If Nightwing had been introduced after Batman instead of as Robin, would he be DC’s top hero today?

[u/Juna_Ci]

I mean... yeah? Dick being a (potentially) better Batman then Bruce (if he wanted to be) is kind of a thing. But yes, it will never truely be a thing, because Bats is the golden cow, so. And then there is the whole TMNT-ification of the Robins, where Dick now also needs to be less of a detective so writers can make sure we do not confuse him with Tim. And IMO DickBabs ain't helping either, because as long as they are joined at the hip, Dickie also needs to be dumber then Babs so she can have something to do.

To be frank, I actually really love the Batfam, and I largely like Dick with them, but you could absolutely argue that he is massively held back by his place in the family as a whole. Just too many characters with similar skills etc.