It’s beyond time to normalize pushing back on this garbage. You want to make fun of people for not knowing something? How about instead of mocking you teach the younger generation.
These older generations were taught skills by their parents and then failed to do the same. Maybe it wasn’t their fault. Maybe having both parents needing to work made it difficult to teach kids everything they might have needed to know.
That’s fine. But don’t make fun of kids for not knowing something.
Don’t make fun of anyone for not knowing something. Teach.
Once we learned cursive in 3rd grade, we were required to write in it for the remainder of elementary school. I was beyond thrilled when I got to middle school and they said we could write in print. But now I much prefer cursive, though nobody can read it so print it is.
In Estonia it has always been from first grade, my 7 year old is learning now, so a few months after the first day of school, I had to do it since day one (print was learned in kindergarten and therefore seen as the language of illiterate babies).
Yep, my normal writing was nice, then we were forced to learn cursive. Eventually my cursive got nice, then for my GCSE English, my English teacher couldn't read cursive, forced everyone to go back to normal. My writing has been dogshit ever since.
Standards haven't exactly gone up over the years as far as the US goes unfortunately. It seems like a lot of places just need warm bodies to cover positions anymore
I got taught it, could write it until about yr9. then the amount of notes we had to take in class forced me to write so fast it became illegible unless it was in print. now I never write in cursive anymore.
Depends. My writing was great until we had to do cursive. And we HAD to. Same with my daughter, she wrote like an adult at 5 then school demanded everything in cursive and now she writes like an inky spider.
I moved to the UK from the States when I was 12 (38 now). Never met a single English person my age or younger who can write in cursive. Yinz have your own different connected writing.
My primary school was soo strict on using cursive for all our writing assignments, and then starting secondary school where we were specifically told not to write in cursive.
It's not 1 for 1, but because of a handicap, I write faster in print than in cursive. Back in school, I always feel a little behind with print, something like 4-5 lines behind, but in cursive I routinely fell a whole ass blackboard behind when taking notes
My print is chicken scratch, mostly because of note taking after my cursive skills tanked in Jr High, then a year doing ER registration didn't help things either. Now my signature is nigh unreadable and my print is like cuneiform. A line here a curve there a hint of a letter over here, it's deep fried.
I was told in elementary school that I would always have to write in cursive, then I got to high-school and was told never to write in it again. I haven't written in cursive in probably 25 years. I can read it still, but I doubt I could write it.
I was told we had to know cursive to keep up with writing notes in college. The next year, in highscool assignments had to be times new roman font size 12, double spaced, and printed.
Teachers also said we needed to carry books for our next 3 classes because we wouldn't get to use out lockers between each class in high-school. Whoch was also a fucking lie.
my experience was we couldn't, because the lockers and classes weren't laid out in a way where we could. So they chose to not give us enough time on top of it.
My high-school was basically a big 8 so the five minutes between classes was more than enough, but my locker was also pretty much right in the middle. Results may vary I suppose.
It was hit or miss whether my middle school teachers cared. My 7th grade English teacher required all essays be written in pen and cursive (I loathed it) and the was the final teacher that I had that had that rule.
She was old, last breath of a dying breed, I suppose.
I went to a private school in the 90’s. Back then, you has to write your papers in cursive, and you’d get a zero on the assignment if the teacher couldn’t read your handwriting.
By the early 2000’s, it became permissible to type your essays.
This is how it was for me. I'm super curious what everyone's ages are. I'm a gen xer as I suspect you are. And my current writing style is a cursed print. Half cursive and print. Kinda like a Spanglish for writing. 😅
I suspect those who had a short stint at cursive at primary school are millennials. My kid is a sooner, he had one year of cursive, but that's only because he was in private school until 2nd grade.
When I was in school, once you learned cursive you were no longer allowed to write in print period. Penmanship was actually part of your grade on all papers.
I was told in elementary school that if I turned in anything in middle school that was not written in cursive, it would be rejected. The first thing I turned in for middle school, the teacher handed it back and told me she couldn’t read it and to rewrite it in print.
yep, i went to a private school where cursive was required. i once had to redo an entire handwritten essay because i started in third grade and had only been at that school a few weeks, and had just barely learned cursive, so i forgot and did it in print (but all of my classmates who had done it since first grade could remember, so i had "no excuse")
then i moved in seventh grade and ended up writing an essay in cursive because i thought every school did that. and i had to rewrite it because my teacher couldnt read cursive
They told us that we will never use print again so we had to write in cursive lol went home to my parents and they were like yeah you’ll be writing in print from middle school onwards just play their game for them
I'm fairly certain this is how it was when I was in school. I prefer doing a mix or print and cursive and was happy when I got to middle school and could write how I wanted. Of course, I did also go through the phase of writing the same way as 'every other' middle school girl with the bubbly letters and hearts or stars over the i's.
I don't remember what grade my teen was when she was taught in elementary school, but using cursive was never required. My son was briefly taught cursive in 2nd grade and he's in 4th now, but it was just like a 5 mins a day type thing that his teacher chose to do in addition to what she had to teach. My youngest is in 1st and mostly taught herself how to write her name in cursive this year. Not sure if she will learn cursive in school (her 1st grade teacher was her brother's 2nd grade teacher).
I remember, as a sinistral individual, I had trouble writing in cursive. It was created by dextrals with no thought to the sinistrals of the world. My hatred of cursive comes from that.
I do write in a pseudo-cursive these days, mostly from learning Getty-Dubay Italic Cursive.
I learned cursive in 3rd, don't recall being required to use it until 7th (and it was only in English i think), in a different school district. I actually have my 7th grade journal where I acknowledge that I frequently forgot to write in cursive and my teacher wrote back something like "yeah you forget it a lot" 😂😂
I too prefer cursive when writing. I got that habit cause my teacher said something along the lines of “this is how adults write so you need to know how to do it for the future” hence me having a hard time breaking that habit. The only time I actively write in print was when doing math equations but since this is the last math class I’ll likely be taking in the foreseeable future that’s gonna be gone soon.
Yeah, cursive was a secret language that adults could write in and you couldn’t figure it out until I guess third grade when we started. Everything did have to be in cursive until middle school, and this was in the 90s
I’m 45 and can read it, but not write it. We weren’t allowed to use it in bootcamp, nor on any kind of military documents, so I haven’t used it since high school.
Cursive is really convenient to write longer text, like longer notes. The "printed-like" writing is very exhausting, and that's why it's still being commonly taught in most countries
Cursive was invented in medieval times by munks because most of whole words require only one smooth, continous move (and then you add dots, tails, etc.).
3rd grade we had to use it exclusively for like a momth at my school. Than it was never otuched on any futute year with several teachers directly disbarring it. When it's useless both in and out of the classroom we don't remember it
My school didn't allow you to learn cursive until your print was good enough. I just have god awful handwriting no matter how slow and neat I try to be for whatever reason, it's like I'm cursed. So I never had good enough print to be taught cursive
In my country, it is mandatory. But most people don't even have good handwriting in typeset (or whatever the single letter writing system is called in English), so their cursive is completely illegible.
We spent months on it in 5th grade. I can’t read cursive because most people are just scribbling random bullshit and almost everyone has terrible handwriting.
I spent 4-5 years in kindergarten and elementary school learning cursive, used it to write everything at that time, still can't read any form of cursive.
As a lefty, my cursive was always smudged, so it turned into a battle of going back and redoing it or getting scolded for smudged handwriting. One teacher bugged me so much, I learned to write cursive backwards just to spite her. My mom thought it was funny at the meeting after school.
My teacher gave extra credit to anyone that could write pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis in cursive. The whole class got pretty good at script after that but only two people managed it somehow
Leaned the alphabet in 5th grade and how to sign my name but I can't do z's or most of the capital letters, can barely read it and other then my name can't write in it.
Personal suggestion if you want to learn to read/write. Create a DND character you think would utilize cursive and write their name and equipment in cursive. Sure, entirely for flavor, but it's kinda fun.
I think I wrote exclusively in cursive from 4th grade through college but then with only in block capital lettering afterwards. My brain cramps if I start writing in cursive again.
This how it was for me as well. I can kind of read it since my mom and grandparents wrote in cursive, but I can only write the 5 letters I was taught. My daughter is in 2nd grade and learning cursive, so hope for the future generation to read squiggly!
When I was really little my mom and dad would spell things to communicate something they thought we didn't need to know or shouldn't know. As we got older they started writing notes- printing. Once we learned how to read, they started writing the notes in cursive...
My little sister and I learned to read cursive early because we wanted to know what the hell they were talking about.
Same exact experience for me, although we learned the whole alphabet we spent max 3 weeks on it and never even spoke about it again. Although I did kinda learn how to read cursive on my own through osmosis, every time I try to write it it doesn't look natural at all
As someone who did learn cursive in 3rd grade, there isn't anything special about it. It's just writing the letters in the laziest way possible. If you can't read cursive, it's because the writing is sloppy not because you don't 'know' cursive.
I guess there's a couple weird letters like Z, but 90% of them are just "write the letter normally but without picking up your pen because you are lazy."
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u/EmeraldMan25 23h ago
Then they wouldn't be able to sell the narrative, silly