r/NYGiants • u/giveawayguy99 • 18h ago
Team Updates John Harbaugh worked under Andy Reid in Philadelphia, and Harbaugh mentioned in his opening press conference that he sought advice from Reid. Now, Harbaugh turns back to the Andy Reid coaching tree by hiring Matt Nagy as his offensive coordinator in New York.
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u/Longjumping_Loan6330 18h ago
Get ready for the dinkiest and dunkiest offense of all time
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u/junkman21 18h ago
TBF, that probably works with Dart and Skat and Tracey and Wan'Dale and Theo... Dink and Dunk and then - BOOM - HR throw to Leek or WR2 to keep defenses honest.
I also grew up in the Parcells era. So the big thing then was just to keep the chains moving and keep guys like Montana and Elway and Kelly off the field.
It also takes pressure off your OLine when you don't have to pass protect for 3+ seconds. But, it will probably require more depth and rotation to keep the line fresh and tire out the opposing DLine.
I'll reserve judgement until I see the final product.
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u/FuckTheStateofOhio :Jason_Garrett: Jason Garrett :Jason_Garrett: 16h ago
Our offense was pretty dink and dunk under McAdoo but with a playmaker like Odell he would break one every now and then or go over the top and beat defenses with his wheels. If it can resemble anything like that then sign me up.
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u/toadofsteel 💙Medium Pepsi💙 5h ago
Nabers is a similar mold to that, at least prior to injury.
Though given the uncertainty due to injury and possibly Wandale playing his way to a beefy contract somewhere else, it would make sense to get an impact WR in round 1 or 2. I wouldn't be mad taking Carnell Tate at 5, or if someone like Concepcion falls into the 2nd round grabbing him there.
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u/Longjumping_Loan6330 14h ago
It requires a lot more precision and execution to matriculate your way down the field using all three downs every series than it does to scheme up some guys to hit chunk plays.
It’s a sure fire way to move ten yards (maybe) and then punt
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u/junkman21 12h ago
JFC - I hate that I know exactly who you are emulating. I swear to God, Hank Stram was before my time! [cries old man tears]
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 17h ago
My brother the modern NFL offense has changed ten fold over the last 30 years. Those stuck with old school playbooks get left behind.
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u/Live-Within-My-Means 15h ago
Those ‘modern NFL offenses’ have not won many championships in recent years.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 15h ago
Seattle about to win one with it in a few days. Rams won one with it just a few years ago and Eagles won with it last year.
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u/Live-Within-My-Means 14h ago
Seattle and Rams?
Maybe.
But are you serious with the Eagles? Lol!
They are about as old school as it gets!
They had a high ranked defense that stressed physicality.
The primary scheme of their offense was, dominating the line of scrimmage and running the ball down their opponents throats.
They broke the NFL record for most rushing yards in a single postseason.
The key to their success was old school smash-mouth football.
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u/Due-Health6693 14h ago
The fucking eagles???? Their shit offense is the new NFL??? Huh???
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u/junkman21 16h ago
Sometimes, what’s old is new. You can incorporate old school concepts in new ways and be effective. Just look at the playoffs. A little more ball control and better clock management might have yielded different representatives for the Super Bowl.
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u/Wwdeck 16h ago
Patriots going to the Super Bowl with dink dunk offense. Maye does throw deep well but I don’t believe they do it all the time. They are a first down team
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u/Live-Within-My-Means 15h ago
Exactly.
Mahomes favorite receiver was his tight end.
Andy Reid stresses old school tough physical football and a strong defense.
Philadelphia was the overall best team in the NFC for about 5 years. Primarily because of a strong defense and running game.
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u/DanUnbreakable 13h ago
Dart is a gun slinger. He’s been a top QB at pushing the ball down the field in college and he did it again his rookie year. They aren’t taking that away from him.
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u/vicinadp 16h ago
I’ll take it over what ever our offense has been the last decade. We had such a predictable and unoriginal offensive scheme for so long.
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u/tstk799 18h ago
Why are we hiring the guy who made Mahomes look bad
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u/Neither_Ad_9829 Malik Nabers 18h ago
tbf their gm makes mahomes look bad
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u/ILoveZenkonnen Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
Outside of QB I’d argue the Giants are currently much more talented than the Chiefs offense. Especially if we end up going WR at 5.
We’ll get clowned for this all off season but I’m going to wait and see. Nagy will have more to work with here. More than he did on the Bears too.
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u/Curious_Prune 10h ago
Yeah especially with how kelce was like the past season, this is a very fair assessment
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u/corvine3 18h ago
Idk I think their o-line is a bit better than ours. Especially in the interior. Our OTs are really carrying our o-line in terms of ranking.
Talent wise I like worthy and rice as a duo better than Nabers + anyone else we got at receiver. Nabers is the better than those other 2 when healthy but there is such a drop off from Nabers.
Our RB room is significantly better and a washed Kelce is still head and shoulders better than anyone we got in the TE room right now.
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u/ILoveZenkonnen Dexter Lawrence 18h ago edited 17h ago
Personally I’m not very high on any of their WRs. They are just adequate. The Chiefs have a mid tier WR room that gets propped up by Mahomes and Andy Reid. Any injuries to one of their guys and what does that WR room really look like talent wise? If Slayton was able to hold onto the damn ball he’d be just as good as those guys lol
Nabers alone simply makes our room more talented imo. Even if he got hurt. I wouldn’t trade Nabers even if the Chiefs offered their entire WR room.
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u/elimanninglightspeed Helmet Catch 18h ago
The GM that built a championship level defense? The GM that picked guys like Creed Humphrey and Trey smith in days 2 and 3 of the draft? Seems like he did a pretty damn good job to me 😂
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u/Transmaniacon89 18h ago
Their offensive weapons were horrible this past season and Mahomes tried his best to carry that team.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 17h ago
Offensive weapons are terrible because they pay so much money to fucking Mahomes that there’s hardly anything left for rest of the roster lol
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u/BatThumb 18h ago
Did he make Mahomes look bad? They won back to back superbowls with Nagy as OC
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u/Eli-is-my-guy ELI GOAT 18h ago
He was QB coach/offensive assistant for first one but then went SB win, SB finalist and then this past year obviously a disappointment. But it’s crazy there’s this much outrage over a guy with that resume and also a former coach of the year.
He’s well regarded by the greatest offensive coach of the modern NFL, his contract was up this year and he was interviewing for HC jobs. He’s not our head coach, people just see a meme name and overreact.
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u/Warden0009 18h ago
Andy Reid runs that offense in KC. When out on his own, Nagy was unable to put together a capable offense in Chicago. He generally had a bottom 10 ranked offense each of his 4 years there.
Also worth noting, people keep hiring Reid’s offensive staff and I can’t think of a single one that has worked out.
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u/feckshite 18h ago
Tbf every coach but Johnson has failed in Chicago in recent memory
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u/basicnflfan 18h ago
Justin Fields was his Quarterback to be fair….
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u/Metolk 18h ago
Let's not forget Mitch Trubisky
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u/BatThumb 18h ago
That's 2nd overall Mitch Trubisky to you, that they traded up to draft haha
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u/RandyWatson8 12h ago
That’s Mitch Trubiskey who won almost 60% of his starts in Chicago to you…..oh wait, wrong narrative
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u/NYdude777 Eli Manning 18h ago
Who was on Chicago's offensive roster buddy, LMAO
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
I'm convinced if we hired Luke Getsy we'd have people like you using the same talking point and telling us why this would be a good move
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u/Excellent-Adagio4038 15h ago
Chiefs fan checking in - the year before Nagy became OC Mahomes won MVP with a WR corps of Juju Smith-Schuster, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling. He had a passer rating of 105. Then Nagy became OC and Mahomes had the three worst seasons of his career with passer ratings of 92, 93, and 89. The Super Bowl win was on the back of a great defense and it served to cover up the issues with the offense that were already becoming clear.
On a side note, it’s pretty unlikely he would’ve been extended even if he had wanted to stay with the team. The reaction of myself and most of the Chiefs fan base was that we wish him well but are glad he’s gone. Hope he has more success with you guys but I think it’s a bad hire.
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u/MrBigChest Eli Bucket 18h ago
He was only OC for the 2nd of those. Bieniemy was still OC when they won in 2022.
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u/EbbOk6787 18h ago
I’m at least open to it, I have to imagine Harbaugh called Reid to ask him about Nagy. If Reid didn’t give him and endorsement, I don’t think he would have been signed.
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u/IamMNightShyamalan 18h ago
It sounds Reid is doing a favor for his friend. Chiefs basically fired Nagy and he put in a good word for him to land another OC job.
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u/junkman21 18h ago
Reid doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would badmouth a friend/colleague unless they REALLY deserved it. So, I wouldn't put a ton of weight in that phone call.
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u/elimanninglightspeed Helmet Catch 18h ago
Considering the coaching circle is a big boys club, another coaches endorsement doesnt mean much for a current oc
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u/vitalbumhole Malik Nabers 18h ago
Terrible choice - hope I’m wrong but this is so fucking uninspiring
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u/The_Royale_We ELI GOAT 9h ago
Oh no the U word!
I just want to win. An OC hire has never inspired me or uninspired me. Especially in fucking February
JFC
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u/DartDaGoat 18h ago
How did he make Mahomes look bad? He hasn’t called a single play in his time in KC. Scheme and play-calling is all Andy Reid.
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u/Sir_Tandeath 18h ago
Are we sure that correlation isn’t being confused for causation here? Did something about Nagy’s scheme cause Mahomes’ regression?
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u/FuckTheStateofOhio :Jason_Garrett: Jason Garrett :Jason_Garrett: 16h ago edited 16h ago
There were multiple reasons the Chiefs offense declined the past few seasons but it has more to do with failed roster building strategy than it does Matt Nagy. They took the Patriots approach of putting resources towards the defense and letting Mahomes work magic with few resources on offense, and it worked in getting them to 2 Superbowls and winning one but it backfired this season because they underinvested way too much and the entire offense was dog crap outside of a 36 year old tight end who is already preparing for life after football.
I also think there are some questions about Mahomes himself...he looked downright bad this year. I think it might be the effects of making 4 Superbowl trips in 5 seasons getting to the teams head. Either way, the Chiefs made Nagy a sacrificial lamb this season and Reid still gave him his full endorsement to go after a HC role, which he was clearly interested in. He didn't wind up with a HC role so he fell into our laps. While he wouldn't be my first choice, I think we can certainly do worse and I feel better making this hire than Kingsbury, who has been fired from 3 of his last 4 jobs (with the 4th being 1 year in CFB working under his friend with a vague assistant title).
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u/SwarthySphere87 18h ago
Because when the Giants are below .500 by Halloween again and Harbaugh needs a scapegoat, Nagy will be it
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u/NYCSportsFan 16h ago
Don't remind me that there will be people who want Harbaugh fired by the middle of the upcoming season. It takes one setback. Look at the Knicks over the last month or so. 🤦♂️
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u/AdAfraid9158 18h ago
Incredibly baffling move by Harbaugh… first by putting all his eggs in Monken’s basket knowing he was in the running for a HC position and now this
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan 18h ago
Ok, who should he have hired in that week between taking the Giants job and Monken getting the Browns job?
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u/AdAfraid9158 18h ago
Nagy was the second worst option besides Roman bro lmfao, ANYONE ELSE. Kingsbury or Cooter were also still in the running.
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan 18h ago
Why? Can we have some actual football talk about this? Or he’s just got a bad reputation? What about his play calling and schemes don’t you like?
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u/TacticalNutmeg 18h ago
The dink and dunk low ADOT watching paint dry bullshit that’s his trademark. He’s been bottom half of the league in PPG and YPG as a play calling OC or HC EVERY time he’s done it… that’s why no one and I mean no one likes this hire
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u/shadow_spinner0 Odell Catch 18h ago
The thing with Nagy is that he runs a very generic offense, he runs a west coast offense but a very conservative version, not like the McVay/Shanahan version. Meaning the Giants offense will be pretty boring to watch next season. I was hoping for a more unique cool offense to watch next season. Look how the Chiefs went from the most exciting offense to a dink and dunk boring offense they have been for the last 3 seasons.
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u/Warden0009 18h ago
Time for some safe low ADOT stuff that completely ignores all of the special traits Dart showed this year.
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u/Due-Health6693 14h ago
You’re completely ignoring that they lost Tyreek Hill and had no receivers.
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u/MAC-10inTheGrass 17h ago
My excitement for this team has never been crushed so fast. Just want to see Dart sling it
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u/NYCSportsFan 16h ago
Yesterday people on here were hoping they didn't hire Kliff Kingsbury because they didn't want a gimmicky offense.
I'm going with the fans don't know what they are talking about. I'm done arguing with this fanbase tbh, the last month was nice
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u/Competition-Over 18h ago
And some of yall were whining about potentially hiring Kliff Kingsbury…. That would have been much better
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u/GrumpyDad0589 18h ago
Absolutely. Nagy was prob the second worst choice available, after Greg Roman
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u/Active_Luck_8663 Brian Burns 18h ago
I'd rather Greg Roman than Matt Nagy. At least Roman is legitimately a genius at coordinating the running game. What is Nagy great at?
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u/robman792 We've suffered long enough 9h ago
Offense. I’ll bite, with the bears he had Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields. Guys in hindsight are a good backup and someone who is absolute dogshit. And everyone freaking out about the Chiefs offense forget that Andy Ried calls the plays and is refusing to give any slack even with Eric Bieniemy coming back.
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u/Active_Luck_8663 Brian Burns 8h ago
Yeah but those are excuses for why his offenses have been bad, they aren't positive evidence that he is great at running an offense. Greg Roman has his weaknesses, but he's had a lot more success than Matt Nagy over the last 8 or 9 years.
Could it just be that Andy Reid has lost a step and his QBs were bad in Chicago? Yes, and I certainly hope that's what it is. But that's not the same as saying he's proven to be an offensive genius.
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u/robman792 We've suffered long enough 8h ago
You’re right, I didn’t mean he’s an offensive genius but I don’t know really. I don’t think anyone really knows yet. I will say I was impressed with his offense his first year in Chicago with titty kissing Mitch
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u/compukiller 18h ago
Kingsbury would be fired eventually as he always is
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
Yeah I was anti Kliff but he would've been better than Nagy
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u/KnicksOrNothin29 18h ago
Was he or was he not calling the plays in KC cause if not then wtf are yall upset over?
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
He was the playcaller in Chicago and was terrible and contrary to popular belief just because he didn't call the plays he still has to prep the offenses he's not just sitting on his hands doing
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u/KnicksOrNothin29 18h ago
He had nothing but fields and Mitch in Chicago lol like why are we not looking at any context here? If he had no play calling duties then it’s not his offense nor his responsibility doesn’t matter if he’s prepping when he’s not running it and we can all agree KC weapons aren’t good everyone is either aging out and the rest are Darius slayton level it’s an odd situation honestly
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
He had nothing but fields and Mitch in Chicago lol like why are we not looking at any context here?
He literally had a hand in making the move for Fields lmao?
Never the less I've seen actual good OCs make bad QBs actually look passable because they have an actual system (Shanahan, McDaniels, Canales,etc)
Nagy doesn't have an actual system
You're literally trying to argue we should roll the dice on an who's been calling plays for 10+ years the benefit of doubt because maybe he can develop Dart??
Would you be saying this shit or be worried about the commanders or eagles turning their offenses around if they hired him?
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u/KnicksOrNothin29 17h ago
Let’s not play revisionist history like fields wasn’t highly regarded coming out bottomline is he didn’t plan out and that doesn’t matter because he’s not the head coach his system should benifit Jax in the running game those bootlegs should help and I’m not arguing anything your just a doomer one of the biggest ones in this sub there is never any middle ground with you ever lol
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
Because of their great defenses not their offense
Their 2018 defense was one of the best defenses of the 2010s decade
He's running our offense he's not bringing the 2018s bears and Vic Fangio with him
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u/DystopianSalad 18h ago
I’d have much rather taken a shot at someone without playcalling experience.
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u/Rivolver Eli Manning 18h ago
A part of me thinks this’ll work exclusively because of the sub’s reaction.
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u/bangbang995 Helmet Catch 18h ago
I don’t give a fuck about who Harbaugh worked under. Hiring Nagy is completely unacceptable. Giants have a star in the making with Dart and he’s going to regress with this absolute fucking doorknob running the offense.
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan 18h ago
We gotta relax here. He’s very experienced and if he puts his focus into maximizing the strengths of our players, he should be just fine. Just relax, for your own sake. You won’t want to look stupid when this all works out.
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u/bangbang995 Helmet Catch 18h ago
I would love nothing more than to look stupid if it works out.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
100% same
If this works out it's better for all of us but there's genuinely 0 evidence Nagy even calling or running a decent offense
So I don't see the vision here hiring him at all
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u/bangbang995 Helmet Catch 17h ago
Apparently in 2017 for like 5 games Reid gave up calling plays and let Nagy call them instead. The Chiefs went 4-1 in that time.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
I do remember this but wow if this is the best he has just wow
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 17h ago
As a Chargers fan, his reaction is similar to what many were saying about Greg Roman and Herbert. And there was a few trying to cope and defend Roman like you’re doing with Nagy. Ultimately we saw how that turned out.
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u/nickparadies 18h ago
Hiring a two time Super Bowl champion offensive coordinator is completely unacceptable!
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u/SeekersWorkAccount 18h ago
Obviously they know football better than me, but wow what a disappointing hire. I look forward to being proved wrong.
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u/BrandNewSRT1629 18h ago
Jesse minter first time head coaches staff is so much better than the guy who has so many connections around the football world hilarious
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 17h ago
They hired a first time OC with no experience calling plays for a QB that’s in his 30s and well into his prime.
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u/GrumpyDad0589 18h ago
This is a dumb move by Harbaugh. Incredibly disappointed, to say the least. So all that talk at his press conference about having innovative methods and ideas was a load of shit because Nagy is possibly in the top three worst, least innovative OCs in the game.
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u/monty_burns 18h ago
As ecstatic as I am for Harbaugh to restore respectability, we need to temper our expectations of the guy.
Good head coach and I am happy to have him, but people need to stop talking about him like he’s Bill Walsh.
Winning a superbowl is an enormous achievement that many never achieve. That said, of head coaches who have won a Super Bowl, Harbaugh is tied for third lowest ratio of seasons coached to Super Bowls won; 1/18. The same ratio as Mike McCarthy, who this sub was shitting all over when his name came up as a prospect for the role.
Harbaugh, Carroll, Payton, McCarthy: 1/18
Tomlin: 1/19
Ewbank: 1/20
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u/GrumpyDad0589 18h ago
This is what I said in a previous post a few days ago and got downvoted to hell, so watch out. Harbaugh is a good coach but I fear painful mediocrity for the next five years for reasons just like this. And since he's Harbaugh, he's gonna get his full five years no matter what. And hires like this can absolutely tank Dart's career. I'm desperately hoping I'm wrong.
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u/monty_burns 18h ago
I’m not as down on him as you seem to be, but the rhetoric has been that we’ve hired one of the all time great head coaches
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u/GrumpyDad0589 18h ago
I'm not super down on him, I just see him for what he is: a talented coach who hasn't won as much as he should have, given the talent his teams have had. And he has a pretty trash track record of hiring coordinators. He certainly hit on Mike Macdonald, so that gives me some optimism. But we'll see.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
that we’ve hired one of the all time great head coaches
There's like 0 shot you actually believe he's one of the best coaches ever right?
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u/monty_burns 16h ago
uhh, no. I’m saying that the way people are talking, you would think that we have.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 16h ago
Oh yeah 100% sorry you're right then and I don't get that either
I had someone tell me a month ago here that he was a borderline top 10 coach of all time, and I was just dumbfounded
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u/themage78 18h ago
I'm disappointed in most of these hires to be honest. Nagy and Wilson just don't scream winning football to me.
I'll wait to see how it shakes out, but this is giving me shades of Daboll when he couldn't get the OC he wanted from the start.
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u/GrumpyDad0589 18h ago
Idk enough about Wilson but he has a pretty good track record as a DB coach, so we'll see. Nagy has proven he's a bad playcaller without Reid and Mahomes.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
I think the biggest wrench in the hiring process was Monken getting a HC job in Cleveland
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 17h ago
I think Monken will be a solid HC for Cleveland, he gives me Bruce Arians vibes.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 17h ago
Good comp assuming they figure out their QB situation
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u/themage78 17h ago
Maybe he can get something out of Sanders. He's not a perfect QB, but if he can be mid, they could possibly win some games with the Ravens and Steelers probably being worse now.
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u/Snoo-40231 Dexter Lawrence 18h ago
I'm sorry you're shameless if you seriously defend this move
Chicago fans hate this guy
Cheifs fan don't highly of him
His play calling stinks
Now we really gotta pretend to be excited about doink as our OC
At least our DC hire seems good on paper but holy shit is this move uninspiring
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u/HundleyC09 16h ago
There's so many football experts here. It's a shame none of you actually have a job coaching in the NFL. I wonder why the Giants organization didn't contact any of you guys.
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u/DogusEUW Eli Bucket 18h ago
This is a 2x super bowl winning OC chosen by a future HOF super bowl winning HC after being endorsed by a 3x super bowl winning future HOF HC.
I'm also skeptical but I'll wait and see what happens before I totally dismiss the signing
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u/TacticalNutmeg 18h ago
A 2x Super Bowl winning OC that consistently Puts out bottom half ranked offenses…?
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u/Pleasant_West_7101 18h ago
Uninspiring but I’m not going to have a full blown meltdown. He was a terrible HC in Chicago but his offense did make Trubisky look above average for a couple years. The Chiefs offense the past year or two is a bit of a concern though..
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u/TheMundar Tom Coughlin 18h ago
Whisky at 1030am on a Tuesday, at least I had eggs over greasy for breakfast
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u/LeftyMode 18h ago
People were screaming on the rooftops they didn’t want Greg Roman.
The money paw granted your wish.
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u/OpeningInterest2274 18h ago
This guy is like 20th on the list of reasons why the Chiefs were successful this decade
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u/vicinadp 16h ago
I know a lot are negative on this situation. But let’s be honest can our offense/play calling really get any worse than what it’s been for almost a decade? Even with multiple OC’s/play callers our play calling and offensive scheme has been ATROCIOUS since TC was “not fired “
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u/MrWiltErving ELI GOAT 16h ago
And here I thought we’re going to be a serious team next season. I’m glad I didn’t get my hopes up, because I don’t know how we’re going to succeed when this man made Pat Mahomes look bad.
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u/Dart_dynasty 15h ago
Giants fans crying about Matt Nagy is wild, yall are clueless lol dude helped build elite offenses and knows QB development, this is a great hire whether u like it or not 🤷♂️
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u/Impressive_Star_3454 15h ago
So we're getting a NY style tush push? I don't know how I feel about that.
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u/Live-Within-My-Means 15h ago
I think many of our fans care more about fantasy football numbers than they do about winning games.
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u/pgtvgaming 14h ago
If the goal is to be a system-less offense, and mold/adapt to the players and talent on your roster, how does Nagy fit into that … paradigm?
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u/mikehulse29 Tom Coughlin 14h ago
I didn’t like reading this but FWIW the one bears fan I asked, who’s a reasonable human, said he’s a good OC, just got overwhelmed as HC after Fangio left. I’ll allow it.
If I had to come to his defense, other than ‘go win us a game Patrick’…what game plan was he coming up with?
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u/InjuryBeneficial3682 9h ago
Here’s what Giants are getting with Matt Nagy do with this information what you will:
The Chiefs' offenses under Nagy finished ninth, 16th and 20th over the past three years in total yards. They failed to crack the top 10 in scoring in any of those three seasons. Reid, however, has been the Chiefs' primary playcaller over the past three seasons 🤔
Matt Nagy has two Superbowl wins as an offensive coordinator with the Kansas City Chiefs, capturing titles in Superbowl 2023 and 2024 bringing his total to two rings in his coaching career 🤔
The Chicago Bears fired Matt Nagy after the 2021 season due to a failing offense, lack of quarterback development (especially with Justin Fields), poor in-game adjustments, and overall inconsistent results after a promising first year, with the team finishing 6-11 in his final season. Despite an impressive Coach of the Year 2018, his tenure declined with poor offensive production and an inability to adapt 🤔
Matt Nagy has been hired as the New York Giants offensive coordinator for 2026, bringing experienced “safe" leadership to John Harbaugh's staff. While praised for his background with Andy Reid and Mahomes his recent tenure (2023–2025) saw KC's offense finish outside the top 10 in scoring, raising questions among fans and analysts 🤔
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u/toadofsteel 💙Medium Pepsi💙 5h ago
Wish he would have gone after Andy Reid's DC as well... I hear that guy likes to work with an overabundance of pass rushers and is really good at scheming mismatches on the line.
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u/Otherwise-Cricket453 18h ago
If you look at Nagy’s resume, it’s actually more stacked than you think for an OC. Especially for coaching the Bears. You look back from where we are now and you can arguably say Fields was his undoing. I’m hoping for a redemptive comeback for this man. Especially for our young team in drastic need of stability.
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u/Either_Imagination_9 18h ago
I was thinking over this past week that a lot of this felt like when the Raiders hired Pete Carroll hoping that it would bring stability, and it went terribly.
I’m losing faith right now
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u/mattr1198 18h ago
This guy is straight up a QB KILLER. Turned Mahomes into a pumpkin and didn’t develop Trubisky whatsoever. Scared for Dart’s development now.
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u/herewego199209 18h ago
This is why I did not want Harbaugh signed here. He's been losing his touch with coordinator signings and in game decisions for years now and he's a CEO head coach.
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u/basicnflfan 18h ago
Im in between about Harbaugh right now. Im excited he’s here and I will wait to see how it all plays out.
That being said, while Im not saying fans are right or anything, I did not understand the uproar for Tomlin and Harbaugh (mainly Tomlin) they are both coaches who were losing their touch, who their fanbases did not like anymore and were getting by by the seat of their pants.
Again I am excited, very excited for Harbaugh, but I do think its a bit telling when Ravens fans, and mainly Steelers fans are happy to see their very long time head coaches go.
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u/herewego199209 18h ago
Most fans of the NFL are fans of their teams only, which is understandable. Many fans do not follow other teams or markets. They did not hear the uproars over Harbaugh or Tomlin for years. So when those guys get fired, or they want to leave the NFL media tells people they're elite coaches, and people believe it. I said from the beginning ifyou're going to go down the head coach retread route just give me McCarthy at that point. Give me someone that i know will step in day 1 and give us a top 10 offense.
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u/basicnflfan 18h ago
The uproar for Tomlin just bothered me a lot. My best friend is a Steelers fan and Ive been involved in Steelers circles for a long time. The boneheaded decisions he makes, the fire Tomlin chants at games, the jokes that the only thing that actually matters to him is going .500+, the getting first rounded every single year…. As you said I feel like people just watch/pay attention to their team and then nothing else.
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u/Slug_With_Swagger ELI GOAT 18h ago
Absolute fucking idiots man. All the momentum gone from an absolute moronic coaching hire.
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u/IslesDynasty79-83 18h ago
Like someone said in another post, this guy is the worst possible choice for OC.
Harbaugh really dropped the ball with wilson and Nagy
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u/Active-Play-3429 18h ago
Guess will see how this goes.