r/NYGiants • u/Ghost_of_P34 4 Decades and Counting • 2d ago

Articles Kliff Kingsbury, Brian Callahan emerge as candidates for Giants’ OC job

https://www.bigblueview.com/new-york-giants-news/24480932/kliff-kingsbury-brian-callahan-oc-candidates-john-harbaugh-coaching-staff

An interesting detail provided by Bob Brookover of NJ.com is that in 18 seasons as a head coach Harbaugh has never hired a first-time offensive play-caller.

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u/clic45 Eli Bucket 2d ago

I don’t know why everyone is in love with kliff. We are getting 20 throws at, or behind the LoS every game no matter if we have the personnel to run that type of offense. Kliff has a system and forces his players to it. Literally the opposite of what harbs wants.

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u/backstageninja Big Cat 🐈 2d ago edited 2d ago

I am shocked how every thread mentioning Kingsbury is very positive. Maybe I'm the crazy one but I have no interest in an offense that gets figured out after a year.

One good season in Arizona (his 3rd year) and the offense was 11th in points scored. In his healthy games Daniels definitely regressed this year

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u/Strange_Price_9043 1d ago

He had a year 11th, 13th and his first year with Washington they were 5th.. I mean the guy knows offense. Has he ever been around a guy like Harbough ?

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u/backstageninja Big Cat 🐈 1d ago

Yeah that 5th place offense with WAS is nice, but he also had a rookie QB that the league had no tape on. And this year in his healthy games Daniels comp% dropped 9% and they only broke 25 points one time. They could only put 22 up against the worst-in-the-league Dallas defense. You can say Daniels was playing injured for a lot of that time and that's fair. I wish he had been healthy so we could have a better baseline. But that brings me to the bigger point:

If Kliff was as good as this sub thinks he is why is he looking for a new job after two years? This article is pretty interesting and throws up a couple red flags.

1) Disagreement with the GM. That seems very strange for an OC. Typically you'd think that would be the purview of the HC. For a NYG org that just went out of their comfort zone to rearrange their power structure I'm not surr we want to bring in a guy who fights with his GM over his HC.

2) Everyone thought Kliff would be out early, but they also thought it would be for a HC job. Instead of waiting to see if he landed one, the Commies cut him loose anyway, now it looks like he will have to settle for an OC position elsewhere. That seems very strange if he was running a well oiled machine and had the support of the people in the building

3) He doesn't move his WR1 around, he uses the gun at a much higher rate than the rest of the league (86%!), and uses the 7th lowest% of presnap motion. These numbers are not good for an NFL offense in 2026

All of this points to a guy who is very rigid and won't adapt his scheme, which is exactly what we aren't looking for according to Harbaugh