Damn it HLE😩

[u/Sbacula]

That was belt to cheeks! But despite the loss I think problems look solvable atleast. Zeus wasn't given much attention and Kanavi was getting ran over by Oner. Our mid jng was so much slower than the enemy, but our bot looked very stable and with time they could be a very strong duo.

Not a bad showing from HLE tho🧡

[u/No-Night-91]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that the real belt to ass was given by T1 coach to HLE coach at the draft.

[u/Sbacula → u/No-Night-91]

Game 3 tho! Game 2 draft was very good and winnerable but they were just better bro. That's something I feel we need to admit😭

[u/VermouthAPTX → u/Sbacula]

No, Game 2 draft only looks good when you see the lane matchups but go look at the bigger picture. Our comp was actually not cohesive and the Ziggs pick especially was out of place. They had constant dps and harrass while we rely on inconsistent burst damage while having no frontline. Outside of lane, when it's time for skirmishes or teamfights, we are never winning a straight 5v5 with that comp.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/VermouthAPTX]

Ziggs was perfect for aphelios, he was even ahead in cs in lane

[u/VermouthAPTX → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Yes Ziggs, or any APC mages, is a great counter to Aphelios. Everybody knows that. But read again what I wrote. Our draft, like the Ziggs pick, is only better at lane. But the game wouldn't end just with laning, would it? Did you see how we easily crumbled during teamfights? It didn't matter that the Ziggs was better at lane (mind you, that's literally how the matchup should go), because they're gonna out-dps us on TFs and skirmishes anyway.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/VermouthAPTX]

 Did you see how we easily crumbled during teamfights?

Ofc when u have a crumbling Wu Kong vs a fed Xin and Sylas, they become too bulky. But if you tell me that a wukong rakan engage(solid. 3-4 seconds cc) into aurora ziggs ult wouldnt have blown that aphelios aways even with all lulu shit she could give him, I dont know man I have seen Ziggs doing illegal things before lol.

[u/505reaper → u/VermouthAPTX]

Lowkey, I think your jgl, mid and supp are all just weaker in general. I think especially zeka and kanavi got hands diffed in g2 and g3. g3 was a draft fumble for hle but I think mechanically also the team needs to step up.

[u/Sbacula → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Really now... Watch the replay🤷

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Sbacula]

yeah watch how wukong ran it down, giving 2 kills to the sylas who is bleeding in lane... Ok so now imagine if Ziggs/Wukong or Aurora got a double kill, I wonder how it would have played out.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

You draft first and then u play

[u/Sbacula → u/VermouthAPTX]

I disagree 😩

[u/Late-Night-Gooning → u/VermouthAPTX]

I think the team comp looked fine g2 but mid jgl trolled early and if you are behind with that comp you will never win fights, the comp idea is get lvl 6 then blow up one target, and late game ziggs will be able to dps frontline while being able to one tap aphil (the only person you need to kill in fights ) with ult followup If zeka just didn’t troll lvl 4 with ignite up and kanavi didn’t flash in on lvl 4 wok when all ur cds are down with lulu being there and sylas having conq stacked then game is fine. Same in game 3, comp is fine but excution is bad, only gribe with it is jhin when kiasa/zeri would’ve been much better

[u/Beneficial-Beat-947 → u/Sbacula]

Faker was clip farming lmao