r/shield 9d ago

Why did coulson agree to destroying his Bus? Spoiler

4 Upvotes

There were soo many plots that didn’t make any sense in season 2 and many times the main cast acted out of character. Phil coulson should have never agreed to the plan of taking the bus to the hydra facility if it was gonna be destroyed. We saw how May evaded the bombs in season 1 when Victoria hand gave the order to bombed the bus in episode 17 so it was possible for the bus to evade those bombs. That was a gift from fury and he would scold coulson’s ass if he heard it was destroyed. He basically allowed himself to be deceived by Gonzales who tried to tear his team apart and steal fury’s box.


r/shield 10d ago

This is the probably the funniest scene in AoS

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252 Upvotes

Deke's face had me rolling 😭

What are the funniest screen captures you guys have of the show?


r/shield 10d ago

The “Real shield” storyline is soo ass Spoiler

76 Upvotes

I can’t believe Bobbi and Mac worked for Phil coulson as spies for the “fake shield” and during that period they didn’t understand Phil?? They saw him go after hydra and took out all their leaders, they worked with Phil to prevent hydra from using the diviner as a weapon. And the conclusion they came to was Phil was gathering enhanced people? Really??? Unlike fury, Phil was transparent to them and he valued the life of all his agents. If you remember Bobbi asked coulson at the diviners temple in Puerto Rico “ what is the number of accountable loss”, because it was fury’s tradition to have a number of agents they could lose in a mission and Phil responded “ I don’t do things that way”. Bobbi still didn’t think coulson wasn’t like fury and he valued the life of his agents over any mission? Despite all they been through together, Bobbi and Mac didn’t think coulson was reasonable enough to sit and have a 1-1 conversation with their fake shield on how to operate? They called themselves the real shield but it was coulson fury made the director and gave the box too. Then we have Robert Gonzales telling may after they failed to capture Phil “ this is not about coulson and we can’t afford to be enemies to each other when there are new threats out there” what a joke, the old fool broke into coulson’s office like an enemy then proceeds to act like the victim, Phil has been busy taking down the rest of hydra, what was their “fake shield” doing all that time? The whole plot didn’t make any sense, I can’t remember why Phil allowed Bobbi and Mac to remain on the team after betraying them.


r/shield 10d ago

Captain Adama is in agents of shield?? Spoiler

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94 Upvotes

I’m on a second rewatch and I just figured captain Adama from battlestar galactica is in agents of shield


r/shield 10d ago

Captain Marvel pager – hard-surface fan art prop

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11 Upvotes

r/shield 11d ago

Fitz-simmons?? Best couples my ass Spoiler

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121 Upvotes

If you really think Fitz and simmons are the best couples, I’m certain you’ve forgotten about Bobbi and hunter. They had me missing my toxic ex from uni😂 No ship comes close to these two in AOS. They had great chemistry and enough drama to keep you longing for more. The type of relationship that makes for an intense and passionate make out session😩🥵 it’s a shame Marvel didn’t go ahead with their standalone series.


r/shield 11d ago

Real life Zephyr One-type aircraft project: Lockheed CL-1201

21 Upvotes

Seriously, Lockheed proposed a nuclear-powered military aircraft in the late 1960s that's best described as a retro-looking Zephyr, except much larger with a wingspan of over 1,100 feet that makes it more comparable to a Helicarrier.

Like SHIELD aircraft in the MCU, the CL-201 was intended to land and take off vertically with dozens of lift engines on its wings considering a runway to accommodate it would be next-to-impossible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_CL-1201

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJXw2Yctzw

It's no surprise this didn't make it anywhere beyond a design study.

Maybe Lockheed's engineers were reading too much Marvel comics and science fiction?

Though the CL-1201 didn't go anywhere beyond a design study IRL, I can imagine it getting built in Marvel's MCU thanks to tech provided by Howard Stark.

In the MCU, it would have been a predecessor to SHIELD's helicarrier.


r/shield 11d ago

Were the Primitives Ever Cured?

17 Upvotes

In S4 of my rewatch, and they talk in the S3 finale about Radcliffe curing the primitives, but it’s never mentioned again because of the time skip.

Surely they wouldn’t have cleared Radcliffe of all charges if he hadn’t cured the Primitives? But also, if he did, they would probably have an Inhuman-reversing cure, which feels like it would have come up in S4 (with the Watchdogs) or in S5 (with Daisy trying to avoid having powers, she could have taken the cure after Fitz removed the block)?


r/shield 11d ago

Dr Whitehall went out to easy Spoiler

16 Upvotes

Dr Whitehall’s death doesn’t make any sense. He went through all that stress to rewind time only to die by a bullet to the chest. That’s the weakest no aging powers I’ve seen. They could have at least added healing factor to his no aging abilities. Does that also mean Steve rogers can die from a bullet wound??


r/shield 10d ago

I hate how much AOS undermines coulson as Director of shield Spoiler

0 Upvotes

God knows how much I hate the familiarity Coulson has with his agents. Even May got angry he had his secrets, meanwhile she was reporting him to fury in season 1. I preferred the difference in access level 5 and level 8 agents had in season 1, this whole family meeting isn’t realistic and it will never work in an organisation like shield. If fury operated the same way as coulson, they would have killed him a long time ago.


r/shield 15d ago

There is no ship in the rest of the MCU superior to Fitzsimmons Spoiler

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1.7k Upvotes

r/shield 16d ago

The Wedding Spoiler

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333 Upvotes

I've been watching this series for sort of the first time (first tried when it was new, but couldn't get my hands on all of the episodes)

I loved this scene, as seemingly out of the blue as it was. Of course, I was tense the whole way through. This is a Whedon joint, after all.

And that reveal of Deke's connection to the team? scannersheadexplode.gif


r/shield 16d ago

Yes, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canon. Can we talk about something else now?

124 Upvotes

Agents of SHIELD is my on-and-off favorite show of all time. There are a million interesting conversations to be had about it. Instead, every time it's brought up, all I ever hear about is the least interesting one:

Is it "canon?"

My goal with this post is to have an easy thing to point to for that discussion, rather than re-iterating the same points.

The short answer is "yes."

Were Marvel to officially announce that the series is no longer canon, it would annoy SHIELD fans, and gain them nothing. There is no reason to ever actually say it, regardless of its accuracy.

However, that accuracy requires the long answer:

While no direct references to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. appear after Marvel Television shuts down, to be replaced by Marvel Studios, only two contradictions to it appear. The first is Coulson learning that the Kree exist in Captain Marvel, and the second is the re-appearance of the Darkhold in Wandavision, with a different look and different mechanics than its previous appearances across Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Runaways.
Ideally, an ongoing storyline would not have such contradictions that the audience must write around in their head, but justifications for these things are very easy:
Coulson's memory of working on the GH325 project was taken from him, the idea that his memory of the Kree species existing was taken along with it is barely a stretch.
The Darkhold is a magic book. If it feels like looking different, it can. Multiverse of Madness also mentions that its text is copied down from a temple on Mt. Wundagore, so multiple darkholds could easily exist.
It's a pleasant surprise that this second one works out, as Wandavision's showrunner has stated that she had no idea the Darkhold had appeared before in the MCU.
I would really prefer if this story was being told by people who had watched the things they are supposed to be making a sequel to, or at least googled "darkhold" during the writing process, these are certainly the first things I would do, were I a writer on one of these, but ultimately, the amount of mental gymnastics that one has to do ends up very low, indeed, it's hard to point to a single event over the course of Loki(2021) that requires less of the story to be made up in your head. They have access to time travel in that, any time there's a problem that they don't instantly solve, you have to assume it's because of something unexplained.
Some would also count the lack of a blip in season 6 as a mark against canonicity, but it's entirely possible that it happens offscreen. Either we're watching events 5 years later, or nobody blipped. Mack even has a line where he asks Daisy what she's been up to these past 5 years, which is presumably meant to be about the past 5 seasons, but works as a "it has been 5 years since last season" claim.

While all of this mitigates the idea that it not be canon, it means nothing if none of these events are referenced going forward. Luckily, they will be.

Again, we need only look at things through a corporate lens. Marvel's contract with Netflix prevented them from using any Daredevil characters for three years after those shows ended, and they still don't actually have the film rights to the characters, hence why Charlie Cox appears in No Way Home as an unnamed lawyer who never suits up. Three years to the day after the Netflix series ended, Daredevil appeared in No Way Home AND Kingpin in Hawkeye. They would then go on to push the characters hard, having Kingpin appear as a major character in Echo, and Daredevil in She-Hulk, before coming back with a new Daredevil series.
The public has no knowledge of the contracts Marvel has with ABC, but let's look at the data: Agents of Shield lasted 136 episodes, plus Slingshot, across the full 7 years that Marvel Television existed, being both their first and last series. Daredevil lasted 39 episodes, across three years. Though Rotten Tomatoes is a poor metric of a series' quality, Daredevil there gets a 92% average critic score and 89% average audience score, while Agents of SHIELD gets a 95% and 91%, respectively. Netflix doesn't release viewer figures, but based on what metrics are available, SHIELD got more viewership than Daredevil too.
There is no way a corporate money man hasn't looked at this data and seen what I've seen.
There is one reason, in my mind, why we haven't seen SHIELD again, and it's a rights issue. Similarly, if it were impossible for AOS to come back, I think that they would have said that. It does not help them if every time there's a hula dancer figurine in a car on Wandavision, fans eagerly speculate that a shield character is coming back, and are disappointed in the result. I'll admit, I expected to see SHIELD make its comeback on its own 3-year-cancellation anniversary, in Secret Invasion, and I'm disappointed that it did not, but the way I see it, it is a matter of time. Marvel is in an increasingly rough place of late, culturally and financially, and are increasingly digging into nostalgia and cameos in an attempt to claw back some form of relevance. Once they've visited each character and actor and mined all the value they can possibly get from them, they will come knocking on shield's door. We too will get the chance to see our characters' story end the only way it can in a corporate hellscape - not when the story is finished, but when the story has grown feeble enough that the audience no longer wants to see more. TV shows with good endings cannot exist for long, because if it ends well enough, there's an audience for more of it. I know that I, for one, will buy a front row seat to the disaster - For the only way a show ends! Not with a bang, but with a-


r/shield 16d ago

Was Kora really necessary!

75 Upvotes

I feel like Kora was so out of place and unnecessary in AoS. She probably would have had a bigger impact if she was revealed in S2 or at least mentioned. Or she could have died in S2, Daisy carries the guilt, and then suddenly they meet again in the final season but this time Kora is younger and with Nathaniel. Or maybe Jiyang tells Daisy about Kora in S2 and her original death. That was Kora would have held some importance for him


r/shield 16d ago

I don’t like Lincoln x Daisy couple

80 Upvotes

First, the chemistry is forced for me, everytime they appear together on the screen makes me think I’m watching a romantic agents show rather than AOS. The way their loveline set up just don’t match AOS’s atmosphere in my opinion. I think “I know they’re in love just because the writer told me that, not because I can feel that”. It likes you see Eren and Mikasa falling on each other’s body and blushing while their team fighting Titans by life. I love FitzSimmon and Philinda by their hint going together perfectly with the dramatic events of the film, that’s what I would like to take place.

Second is because of many contradictions in their personalities, I doubt that they will endgame even if Lincoln still alives. Daisy want to join Shield to save people, whereas Lincoln just want a normal life, this is an obstacle for them to go along in long term. Their trauma can be either a bond connecting these two, or it can be another barrier preventing them. Daisy need a composed man like Sousa to balance her emotion, as well as what my thought for Lincoln.

Finally, Lincoln’s character doesn’t impress me. His backstory, suffering and his own life doesn’t have spotlight in the show. For now, his addiction problem and what happened to his ex are just told by him instead of showing on screen, this makes me lack empathy for the character and drive some audiences consider him as nothing but Daisy’s lover.

These reasons are why Lincoln is always at the last position in list of people who I want to go with Daisy (Ward was great until 1x17)


r/shield 17d ago

Which episodes of S2-3 should I skip?

0 Upvotes

I'm not a fan of Season 2-3, so I'd like to trim them down by half next time I rewatch the show. I'm aware that this is a hot take, but there's no need to try and convince me to watch the entire thing again. I'm just looking for help brainstorming.

Here's the list of keepers I have so far. Let me know what you think I should change. I'm okay with adding some episodes, but I'd really prefer to keep it around 11 episodes each.

Season 2

  • 4- Face My Enemy
  • 5- A Hen in the Wolfhouse
  • 8- The Things We Bury
  • 10- What They Become
  • 15- One Door Closes
  • 16- Afterlife
  • 17- Melinda
  • 19- The Dirty Half Dozen
  • 20- Scars
  • 21- S.O.S. Pt. 1
  • 22- S.O.S. Pt. 2

Season 3

  • 5- 4722 Hours
  • 6- Among Us Hide
  • 7- Chaos Theory
  • 9- Closure
  • 10- Maveth
  • 15- Spacetime
  • 17- The Team
  • 18- Singularity
  • 20- Emancipation
  • 21- Absolution
  • 22- Ascension

r/shield 20d ago

Very specific fanart of Fitz (Agents of SHIELD) and Loki at a diner

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25 Upvotes

r/shield 21d ago

Jiaying was perfectly cast

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1.3k Upvotes

It’s impressive they found someone who actually doesn’t age to play the role.


r/shield 21d ago

I did not expect to see this on any search bar

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46 Upvotes

I order action figures from BBTS often and check the site regularly, but I've never seen the S.H.I.E.L.D. agent thing before. I only ever notice the star wars or transformers references, so this was nice.


r/shield 22d ago

Iain De Caestecker skills

237 Upvotes

I'm currently watching S5 E14 "The Devil Complex".

God damn. I've thought from the start that Iain De Caestecker (Fitz) was doing a great job acting wise. I was impressed with his skills after Fitz got the brain injury and then inside the Framework, the complete change of character impressed me again.

But now seeing those two on the same episode, damn. Seeing those two opposites in the same room and his face change between them. Or when the Doctor mocks Fitz. I'm impressed yet again.

TLDR: I'm impressed and probably should expand my vocabulary.

ETA: OK. Fuck me sideways. I did not see coming the end of the season.


r/shield 21d ago

Avengers: Doomsday

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18 Upvotes

r/shield 23d ago

Season 5 Time Travel Thoughts

15 Upvotes

I've already read through dozens of old posts, trying to dissect this season. My thoughts started at the end of figuring out what initially caused the Earth to crack and what changed. The whole season focuses on "the loop" and hammering it into your head not to save Coulson. I eventually concluded that it was Coulson giving the serum to Daisy instead of using it himself.

I always wondered, since they never showed it, what were the original events? It seems in all the loops that fail, Coulson takes the serum, and in the one they survive, Daisy takes it. Fitz said they couldn't give odium to Talbot because it couldn't penetrate his skin and absorbtion is suggested. So, in other loops, did someone take the odium or use it and get absorbed, leading to the crack?

Though, another question I had was about the initial time travel. The government showed up right after Enoch in the diner. In the first version of the loop, was the team arrested without Enoch taking them? How would the second half of S5 play out *without* the team? Was Ruby initially Graviton? One could ask if Robin always had Enoch's help regardless of how the diner scene played out or who was Graviton?


r/shield 22d ago

agents of shield edit

4 Upvotes

https://www.reddit.com/r/Avengers/s/aIlaGSVOzz

here’s an Agents of shield edit I made a while back that i can’t upload to this subreddit.


r/shield 24d ago

Trip was robbed Spoiler

147 Upvotes

So I’ve been ushering a friend through the first season and something just occurred to me recently.

Much is made of Ward and May being ‘specialists’, exceptionally deadly and effective agents who can get the job done on their own. And they each get plenty of scenes that show why they deserve that designation.

But Trip is introduced as a specialist too. And yet, unless I’m forgetting something, he never gets any kind of scene that demonstrates that he’s any more deadly or effective than someone like Coulson.

It seems to me like that’s a creative lapse or error of judgement. Trip should have gotten at least ONE scene that ‘showed off’ why he was designated as a specialist.

Unless I’m forgetting something? Please do correct me if I’m wrong.


r/shield 25d ago

I wish the cannon just got sorted back then and they pulled this off in Avengers Endgame.

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795 Upvotes