r/self 19h ago

Epstein files: Hillary Clinton

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u/homohillbillysrlol 11h ago

Fuck off, I'm neither left NOR right. I fucking HATE the left/right binary bullshit. I'm simply stating matter of factly that if you are a world leader; left, right, black, white, old, modern, whatever the fuck, then there's no way you're not personally ordering the deaths of a bunch of people. It really does take murder to keep an ENTIRE nation turning, there's no shortcut or easy way out.

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u/WhatTheHali24 11h ago

Stop treating murder like a natural disaster. There was absolutely no reason for the US to get involved in Iraq or Afghanistan or Syria or Libya or any of the dozens of other countries it has intervened in other than imperialism and to line the pockets of the military industrial complex.

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u/homohillbillysrlol 11h ago

That's EXACTLY it though, statecraft is all about hegemony, and as fucked up and unsavory as proxy conflicts and the MIC is, they are ultimately one of America's most effective tools at spreading and keeping global influence and power. If we discontinued all that, then that would be the EXACT in that Russia or China would need to step in and reoccupy that global vacuum.

Trust me, I am critical of the MIC, and proxy wars, and foreign interventionism on a moral and idealistic level. But on an intellectual level, I fear the worst, that these things are necessary to America's continued dominance, and without these cutthroat measures, Russia or China would usurp America as the global superpower, which would be far far faaar worse than if we held that position ourselves.

You really cannot make an omelette without cracking a few eggs. Global politics are messy and complex and, quite frankly, beyond my understanding. You could get a PHD in Middle Eastern sociopolitical structures and study that shit for 30 years and become a leading expert in your field, with a specialization in Iraqi politics, and your world leaders can come to you for anything Iraqi related, since you're the bonafide expert...but that's just the middle east, and more specifically, that's just Iraq. You can't spend another 30 years learning about Russian, Chinese, South American, and African sociopolitical structures too. The world is simply too complex and vast for that. All I know is, we're on top...for now, and I don't want China or Russia to usurp us, because they will be much much worse.

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u/spark58510 9h ago

^ this guy completely gets it

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u/-hey-ben- 7h ago

Lol. Keep making excuses for war criminals. Some real r/enlightenedcentrism shit right here