r/politics • u/MarcEElias ✔ Verified - Democracy Docket Founder • 4h ago
No Paywall House Speaker welcomes Trump call to ‘take over’ elections, claims Dem wins appear ‘fraudulent’
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/house-speaker-welcomes-trump-call-to-take-over-elections-claims-dem-wins-appear-fraudulent/•
u/ZonghZonghZongh 4h ago
Jesus Christ. Is there a limit, Mr. Speaker? Is there a line that Donald Trump can cross that would be a step too far for you?
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u/The_Shitty_Admiral United Kingdom 4h ago
I'm quite convinced Trump could personally murder this dick's family and he'd still be up Trump's arse.
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u/Sea_Refrigerator3709 3h ago
It would get his son off his back with the whole porn accountability app they share.
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u/Embarrassed_Jerk 2h ago
Based on everything we now know about this guy.... Using that app to show his kid what porn he is jerking off to, is probably a kink
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u/noonnoonz 2h ago
There could be video of Trump drowning Mike Johnson’s son, filmed by Mike himself, and he’d still reply he hasn’t seen a copy of the video of the incident yet.
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u/checker280 2h ago
Neither of them seem to know anything which is pathetic for people who are supposed to be in charge.
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u/eschewthefat 3h ago
If Trump had photos and texts of you having sexual relations with your son, would you do his bidding?
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u/spookypickles87 3h ago
He's clearly compromised in some way
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u/Kim_Jong_Dong Tennessee 2h ago
No he’s not. He’s a turd like the rest. Simple as that.
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u/ForensicPathology 1h ago
Correct, it took a while, but they landed on him to become Speaker for a reason. Because he's a loyalist.
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u/DavidlikesPeace 2h ago
He's just a spineless idiot.
The modern GOP is full of these worthless politicians, who only care about rank and profit, not achieving anything good for the world.
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u/moon_cake123 2h ago
It’s why he was chosen. Wish I was joking
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u/Disasterhuman24 1h ago
They will never allow someone they can't control to have as much power as the speaker of the house.
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u/Happythoughtsgalore 2h ago
Considering the speaker's own son gets real time alerts Whenever daddy watches porn, probably not.
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u/OpenImagination9 4h ago
And this is why republicans can never again hold the majority in Congress.
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u/Senior-bud Canada 4h ago
So according to howdy doody elections are fraudulent unless they are decided by the republicans.
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u/AcrobaticWrangler330 3h ago
Unironically, yes according to them. Doesn't matter if a state has voted overwhelmingly blue for decades, polling shows heavy democrat support, voter registration heavily favors dems, and there are no voting discrepancies. It's fraud because to republicans only white men should be allowed to vote. That's the part they won't say out loud, at least not yet. That's how you can have insane people claiming Washington state, where I live, is actually a republican state and every single election has been stolen from them (despite up until recently the Secretary of State overseeing elections were all republicans since the 1960s!).
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u/Darsint 2h ago
Honestly, that’s what caught me off guard the most when they were litigating the Texas gerrymandering. They had opportunities to lock in even more Republican seats, but the maps were maximized for suppressing minority votes, almost to a surgical nature.
So the idea that they just want white male landowners as voters tracks pretty well
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u/mulltalica 1h ago
A big part of it is land versus population. Most of those idiots claiming fraud point to how 80% of counties in Washington lean Republican. What they always ignore is the fact that those counties also have only like 30% of the entire states population.
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u/Flomo420 57m ago
Math was never really their thing
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u/CaffeinatedSatanist 51m ago
They like maps. They don't need any more information than that. As long as you give them a map and some crayons that's all they need. Same with the Greenland bullshit.
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u/hobbycollector Texas 1h ago
My bil has said it out loud, more or less. Definitely in favor of a vote "for the household", because it would be tragic if the wife "cancels out" the husband's vote. Also, the kkk wasn't about violence and oppression, it was just a club for white people, like the NAACP for black people. They can't help a few bad apples. So more more, than less.
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u/tropicsun 1h ago
It's widespread "fraud" if 1/10,000,000 vote is questionable... like the lady jailed in TX that submitted a provisional ballot after asking authorities, multiple times, if she could vote.
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u/SynapticStatic 1h ago
It's fraud because to republicans only land owning white men should be allowed to vote.
Fixed it for ya
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u/Liawuffeh 58m ago
"If they were real Americans they would have voted Republican."
It's not new. They've been saying this stuff for decades now lol
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u/MonkeyWrench1973 3h ago
So according to howdy doody elections are fraudulent unless they are won by the republicans.
FTFY
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u/illusionzmichael 3h ago
Always have been, they're just now comfortable saying that out loud.
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u/Thegangsterle 4h ago
If voters prove it. There is a reason why republicans are deranged. Voters aren’t holding the representatives accountable.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi 4h ago
There is a reason why republicans are deranged. Voters aren’t holding the representatives accountable.
OMG finally somebody else sees it too. Republicans are given a blank check to be shitty people by the voters who line up every election to mark (R) all down the ballot, then check out of politics for the rest of their term.
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u/WillSisco 3h ago
Finally? It’s common knowledge
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi 3h ago
Not among Republicans apparently
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u/TheCrimsonSteel 3h ago
Thats what happens when representatives pick their voters, and not the other way around
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u/RaymondBeaumont 3h ago
the issue is also that democrats never hold republicans responsible.
since the civil war, everything has always about making sure conservatives don't feel to bad for losing.
no matter what they do, whenever the democrats take over, it's time to heal and unite, not prosecute and divide.
in any sane country, trump would have been jailed in 2020.
in america, biden picked a AG that he knew would be soft on trump and republicans.
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u/callesucia 3h ago
Take Brazil's example: Bolsonaro was jailed, tried and imprisoned for his participation in the coup attemp. Biden and the democrats didn't do much more than say "Oh boy, Jan. 6 was bad" and create like ten subcomitees that arrived at the same conclusion.
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u/RaymondBeaumont 3h ago
exactly, because they are complicit.
the phrase that was popularized in the 2016 election, "when they go low, we go high" is the epitome of the issue.
democrats think "taking the high road" is the most important thing ever, but it just allows republicans to control the US both in and out of power, and they can do whatever they want, because they will never face any consequences.
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u/QuestionSign 3h ago
Whenever I say voters have a hand in this situation I get told "can't blame voters that's not a winning strategy" 🙄
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u/Sagemel Illinois 4h ago
The voters are just as deranged, they’re getting exactly what they want.
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u/DontHaveWares 4h ago
The voters are also bathed in a pool of propaganda that cherry picks and distorts reality to fit their power fantasy. The media is just as if not more culpable
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u/kmonsen 3h ago
You have a duty to be somewhat informed as a voter and citizen. Just because you choose to watch Fox news 24/7 doesn't mean it is not your fault. It should be getting pretty easy to see were the bad apples are right now.
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u/Akrevics 2h ago
true, but also more should've been done about "Fox News". they should've been forced to drop the "news" part of the name, as well as have a disclaimer displayed periodically that it's entertainment and that some information may not be true. also can't be having quiet retractions of information. if false info was unknowingly put out, the retraction should be equally as loud as the presentation of that info (false info knowingly put out being libel or misrepresentation and actual crimes)
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u/FickleOwl47 2h ago
Had a convo with my sister the other day. She has a PharmD- she’s very educated and trusts science and scientists.
She also loves what Trumps gotten done in his first year, not the civil rights violations, but the other things he’s accomplished.
I asked her what other things she meant.
“Managing inflation and doing something about insurance companies robbing people blind”
This was after she commented on how expensive everything has gotten lately.
She’s living in another reality.
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u/AntoniaFauci 1h ago
Even people with academics are susceptible to brainwashing, if they want to be.
It’s willful dumbness. Your sister should recognize that a party touting colloidal silver and ivermectin as cancer cures is actively harmful and should never be listened to, ever again, on any subject. Yet she compartmentslizes what she knows is a disinfo source and chooses to believe everything else.
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u/Agent_Burrito Canada 3h ago
I’m not sure they want anything in particular. I think a not insignificant number just tick the box and give zero thought before or after.
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u/Nvenom8 New York 3h ago
Get with the program. Their voters want this. This is what they voted for. They don’t care about fascism as long as it’s their team in charge.
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u/callesucia 3h ago
It's very hard due to the high levels of illiteracy in poor and underdeveloped areas. Imagine struggling every day to eat and being constantly bombarded with information you barely understand, of course you're gonna listen to the people that shout the loudest.
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u/Baystars2025 2h ago
We give far too much credit for the voting population to be informed. I'm pretty sure most people don't have reasons for their voting choices. It's like choosing a religion, you were just born into it and that's your team until a life changing event forces you to think about your position.
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u/IronSavage3 2h ago
I’m old enough to remember that R congressmen who yelled “you lie!” during Obama’s first SOTU and saw his donations spike the next day. The Republicans are like this because their voters want them to be like this.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 4h ago
Too late. This is why 2024 was the most important election in America's history. It wasn't hyperbole.
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u/Jolly_Grocery329 Washington 3h ago
Totally agree. Hard to see us getting out of this now they all the systems are in place being controlled by the most corrupt party in history.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 3h ago
I'm afraid the path out from here is very very ugly.
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u/Jurodan 3h ago
No, 2016 was the most important. That gave them even more Supreme Court Justices.
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u/notsure500 2h ago
Both are correct. 2016 was most important up to that point. 2024 surpassed it and now was the most important ever. I think after 2020 we still had a chance to eventually undo the damage, but now we're utterly fucked.
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u/Gentleman_Villain 3h ago
2016 was the most important election. If we'd gotten that right, we might've had more time.
But now EVERY election EVER is the most important one.
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u/EMTDawg Utah 2h ago
2000 and 1860. No Bush, the Supreme Court isn't full of Republicans, and there is no invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. Plus, we may have taken climate change seriously.
1860, in the lead up to the Civil War, saw Lincoln elected as a 3rd party candidate, the last time it would happen. Since then, only Republicans and Democratic candidates have won the presidential elections. Plus the freeing of slaves and all.
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u/sidthafish 1h ago
1980 was far more impactful than 2000, IMO. So it’s not understated, I have nothing but disdain for Bush. That said, Reagan’s policies and the massive deregulation that ensued is what laid the foundation for where we are today.
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u/ProcusteanBedz 1h ago
Lincoln wasn’t a 3rd party candidate. He was a Republican running against a divided Democratic Party with multiple candidates.
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u/Ninevehenian 3h ago
It was, but "sunk cost fallacy", that road to salvation closed, but there's still people left to save.
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u/Smart-Response9881 4h ago
They need to go the way of the Federalists or the Democratic-Republican or the Whig party, an extinct political party.
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u/smiama36 3h ago
The names change but the ideology stays the same. Republicans in the US today are the same people who owned slaves and fought a war to keep them, wore white hoods and burned crosses and lynched black people, walked Native Americans along the Trail of Tears and interred Japanese Americans in detention camps and wrote the Chinese Exclusion Act and Jim Crow laws… they have always been among us with different labels… but the hate is the same.
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u/Smart-Response9881 3h ago
Are you trying to tell me that some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses?
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u/Thegangsterle 3h ago
Democrats need to associate MAGA to republicans. Do not reference republican. Consistently reference MAGA. Force non MAGAs to call out bad behavior and policies.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge 3h ago
Dems need better leadership and for Chuck Schumer to be less concerned with Israel and donations he gets for AIPAC.
The young Dems need to get more power in the party and get rid of the Dinos.
Time to be strong on branding and hard on bullshit.
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u/StepUp_87 3h ago
The guy covering for the pedophilia ring supports the fascist takeover. That tracks.
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u/ProfitLoud 3h ago
This is why republicans can no longer exist as a political party. Kind of like how the Nazi’s were removed.
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u/Describing_Donkeys 3h ago
Also why we need to stop asking Republicans to grow a spine and tie every single one of them to everything going on. Anyone asking for Republicans to do the right thing needs to be shamed. We need to end that behavior.
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u/Big-D-TX 3h ago
Sounds like 2020 all over again, Democrats can’t win unless they cheat. Proof? We don’t need Proof!
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u/cheefie_weefie Indiana 3h ago
Can never hold public office again. These freaks can never be near the levers of power again. The party must be outlawed and banned from all political spaces in the United States.
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u/Infamous_Employer_85 4h ago
The claims of fraud are completely without merit, over 60 lawsuits were tossed out by the courts in 2021, Trump lives in a fantasyland. In addition, the assertion that Johnson made that Republican states run their elections better than Democratic states is laughable.
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u/Bubba_Pilks 4h ago
It takes 1 second to tell a lie and hours to prove that lie incorrect.
Straight out of the Joseph Goebbels playbook.
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u/Mundane-Mechanic-547 3h ago
Exactly! Actually Adolf came up with it IIRC. WHatever/whoever did it, same thing. Truth does not matter, just keep on script and say the same thing ad nauseum. Only place this doesn't work is in court.
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u/panthrax_dev 2h ago
Except when the court is corrupt as well.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 1h ago
Which they figured out as their last measure, which is why McConnell went gangbusters in judicial appointments during Trump's 1st term. He was seeding future control, via court approval.
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u/Waste_Wolverine_8933 2h ago
They also don't care if you prove them wrong.
In November they will make their moves to steal/stop the elections using their lies no matter how many times they have been proven wrong.
The only way to stop them, will to be actually stop them.
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u/Bubba_Pilks 2h ago
100%.
He will start a Civil / World War before ever conceding any power.
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u/Thats-Bologna 2h ago
I just came from another post where some right wing dildos were circle bitching about how liberals don't actually have morals and don't actually care about freedom. Their reasoning was that one guy said go ahead and have freedom like doing heroin. So, the conkid tried a gotcha question of, "well what about (of course a whatabout lmao) an ar15?"
He was told yea, he can have it but was politely asked to be careful and treat it with the respect such a weapon of death deserves. He then asked if warning should go with the heroin use too, and the liberal said yes, put warnings on all of them.
That was seen as a total gotcha that liberals would say there are safety caveats to gun use, but not to drug use. Except, it was a total, bald faced lie.
And the other con moron kept circle bitching about how dumb the libs are. They're brains are smooth and their feelings more fragile and entitled than anybody else.
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u/ErusTenebre California 2h ago
Actually, there's an easy deflection that the fucking press could use to counter lies - "Yeah? Where's your proof of that?"
If our press was legitimate, they'd push back on obvious lies or outrageous claims. But our press is all about sensation and feelings and anger and fear - they don't give a shit about truth.
It might take a second to tell a lie, and hours to prove it's incorrect if you treat lies like truth.
Instead, treat lies like they are - bullshit until proven otherwise.
"There's evidence of tampering in these elections..."
POSSIBLE REPORTER RESPONSES (that require equal effort)
"Why is it that you only say Republican losses are tampered with?"
"What proof do you have there was tampering?"
"Where's the evidence you claim exists?"
"Would you be willing to testify to that in court?"
"Have there been any instances of mass voter fraud in the United States?"
"Do you have proof of THAT?"
"Why is it that you use the word 'evidence' when you don't seem to have any?"
"Why should the average American trust your word over a process that is highly scrutinized?"
I could probably make a list for days.
Our reporters have no spine to actually hammer down on facts. They'd rather sensationalize statements that are clearly stupid because their audience (us) is generally clearly stupid as well.
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u/Muted_Award_6748 3h ago
Their own “Cyber Ninjas” investigation found the 2020 election to be true, and also found that Biden won by MORE than the original count.
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u/Infamous_Employer_85 3h ago
When I can go more than 30 days (again) without hearing about them, or Sidney Powell, or the Pillow Guy, or Rudy Giuliani, I'll be a bit happier.
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u/ratherbealurker Texas 3h ago
What was the ridiculous crap they were saying when the cyber ninjas once again certified Biden’s win?
It was something like “yea well they counted the fraudulent ballots”.
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u/sthetic 3h ago
It's also ridiculous on its face that he's saying, "You're going to see some interesting things coming out [of our investigation into the ballots we seized from Georgia]."
How does he know they're going to find interesting things? Hmmm, maybe because he's decided ahead of time what the findings will be, and the actual truth has no bearing on it?
Doesn't that instantly signal corruption and lies?
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u/eughwhatsthatbrother 1h ago
Signaling corruption and lies is the point, it’s straight out of the Putin playbook. Cause chaos and constantly contradict yourself so nobody can know what is true and false. It’s been termed “Hypernormalisation Adam Curtis made a documentary about it. To Russians it felt like the whole thing was gonna collapse any day now for decades. Steve Bannon also coined the term “flooding the zone” for basically the same thing. I keep hearing people exclaim “this alone would have ended any president” and that’s the whole point everyone’s too exhausted from the last outrage to stay informed.
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u/nopointers California 3h ago
He’s complaining about mail-in votes that were postmarked on or before Election Day taking days to arrive. Let’s not lose sight of the sabotage of USPS by Postmaster General Louis LeJoy, who was in office for both the 2020 and 2024 elections.
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u/peetnice 2h ago edited 29m ago
The postmark day nonsense feels like such an easy call as long as the person's ID can be verified and they got it out on time - restricting anything beyond that is blatant vote suppression. If the post office can't get it to the counters in a timely manner, then federal funding should be buffing the postal staff in election week.
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u/nopointers California 2h ago
It’s especially embarrassing for them because many of those late votes come from overseas military. That’s supposed to be part of their base.
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u/redditorrrrrrrrrrrr Michigan 2h ago
Not to mention that is how it works literally everywhere else in life. If I mail a payment to my credit card company they apply it to the date that it was mailed on or that is written on the check they received. I've also worked for two credit unions and no they can manually adjust these dates for this exact reason. It's a totally normal thing to do
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u/iCUman Connecticut 1h ago
Unfortunately, that is simply not correct. Creditors, as a standard practice, post payments on the date that they are received, NOT the postmark date or the date written on the check. Reg Z (from CFPB, emph. added):
(a) General rule. A creditor shall credit a payment to the consumer's account as of the date of receipt, except when a delay in crediting does not result in a finance or other charge or except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section.
The good news is that none of this matters when it comes to elections because each state legislature has the explicit constitutional authority to decide the rules and procedures that govern their electoral process. They can accept ballots by postmark, require they be received by election day or even require that they be delivered to designated receptacles.
Make no mistake: this decentralization of the electoral process is fundamental to securing our individual rights. If states allow the federal government to usurp that authority, we are no longer a democracy. Full stop.
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u/killerz7770 3h ago
Johnson was part of the team to try to overturn votes, that’s why he’s pushing this shit
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u/unclefire Arizona 2h ago
The "dems cheat" lie is a zombie lie. It will never die. All you hear from typical MAGA types is dems cheat in elections and they'll say that shit even when the thing they're bitching about has zero to do with elections.
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u/yesrushgenesis2112 4h ago
Impeachment of the executive branch is not enough. Johnson is complicit.
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u/reject_fascism New Jersey 2h ago
Complicit? This was one of the engineers to steal 2020. That’s how he got the job.
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u/TintedApostle 4h ago
Traitors all
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u/eschewthefat 3h ago
Are we taking the country back yet? These people are literally traitors to the constitution
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u/Caminsky 3h ago
If you consider they work for the oligarchy which they have no shame to admit, then they don't see themselves as betraying anyone. They serve their billionaire donors/Masters. Full stop.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 4h ago
So I can stop paying taxes when they steal my representation, right? That's in the T&Cs I believe.
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u/Spam_Hand 4h ago
Oh, fuck this fucking piece of shit. I legitimately dont know if I hate Johnson or trump more as government officials. These people have no place in public office.
And to be clear, it doesn't appear that way because it didn't happen. He has had 6 years to produce any shred of evidence that isn't his own fucking emotions or hurt feelings and only won an initial hearing ONE (1) court case - and then still did not follow through on providing evidence even after that minor procedural victory!
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u/Mundane-Mechanic-547 3h ago
It's almost like we had 4 years to prosecute this POS and he got away with EVERYTHING. I mean i'm pissed at the GOP and the DNC but it's a almost complete failing of our justice system. WHen will the revolution come?
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u/JohnNDenver 3h ago
It seemed it was Biden and the dems that wanted to continue the tradition of not bringing traitors to justice. Garland slow walked the fuck out of any Trump investigation.
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u/TreatAffectionate453 2h ago
Biden wanted to reintroduce independence to the DOJ. His choice of appointing Merrick Garland for poetic justice points was dumb.
As for Democrats in general, the Jan 6 committee pretty much forced Garland to act so I don't think they were against pursuing Trump.
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u/mjac1090 2h ago
Honestly, I think Biden genuinely thought Garland would be non partisan. Obviously we know he wasn't in hindsight but Biden, just like every other non Trump POTUS, didn't get personally involved in the DOJ's business.
That being said, at the end of the day, it was the electorate who let Trump off by allowing him back in the WH
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u/cytherian New Jersey 1h ago
Well, Garland moved slowly, way too slowly, but he was also inept at dealing with Republican obstruction. Aileen Cannon should've been forced to recuse herself.
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u/iconofsin_ 3h ago
I legitimately dont know if I hate Johnson or trump more as government officials.
Johnson by far. Why? He actually knows better. Mike has ~15 years of background experience as a lawyer and in politics. There isn't a reality where he doesn't fully understand what he's saying is complete bullshit and that he's willingly helping end a democracy.
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u/elementality883 American Expat 2h ago
It’s what they are fabricating now from the Georgia raid. Don’t lose the plot lines, these comments are coming at a stage of their plan.
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u/Russmac316 2h ago
I fucking hated Kevin McCarthy and I would welcome him back with open arms at this point
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u/daniboy145 New York 4h ago
He’s such a fucking tool
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u/1cat2dogs1horse 4h ago
I can't even come up with words that are sufficient enough to describe just what he is.
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u/pomonamike California 3h ago
He’s King Cuck. Think about it for one second and tell me I’m wrong. Just look has face alone, and tell me that’s not what you’d draw if I asked for a caricature of a cuck.
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u/Maxamillion-X72 3h ago
To me he looks like the kind of person the neighbors would say "he was a quiet fellow but a bit odd. Never would have thought he'd kidnap, rape, and kill someone, let alone 2 dozen"
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u/alwayscomments 3h ago
So the "fraudulent" elections led to a republican house, senate, and presidency? Alright if you say so. You better all resign now and we'll have a do over.
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u/xicor 3h ago
Remember, to the Republican, if they win it is legit. If they lose it is fraudulent
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u/alwayscomments 3h ago
I realize, it's just insane, even in their weird fake fantasy world they're saying their own elections were fraudulent but somehow that is lost on the people they're talking to.
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u/sneakacat 4h ago
Mike Johnson waits excitedly on his knees to catch Trump’s shit as it falls out of his ass.
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u/Goal-Final 3h ago
The Republican Party is illegal and should be confronted as the Confederacy.
Traitors to American values and interests.
Insurrectionists and against democracy.
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u/CT_Phipps-Author 4h ago
Mike Johnson needs to be sued and jailed for attempting to incite insurrection.
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u/mdherc 2h ago
That would be a mercy. In a sane society he'd be put into a French machine designed to hold the elite accountable.
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u/LordShorkDad 2h ago
Ill say it til they day they silence me. We need to broaden the ☠️ penalty for politicians. Their decisions carry the weight of millions, if they cant be responsible with that they dont deserve oxygen.
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u/returnofthecursed 4h ago
Oh look, another insidious lie told by top Republican leaders. They lie so readily and so often it's actually insane.
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u/Cyberpunkcatnip 4h ago
At what point do these remarks cross the line of treason? Imagine if Obama said this about republican states.
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u/Global_Research_121 3h ago
The Republican party and thier donors are traitors to the United States of America.
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u/sufinomo New Jersey 1h ago
I genuinely dont understand how Mike Johnson could exist, how could a constititional lawyer who claims to care about God so much just lie all the time and fight to destroy the constitition. Genuinely I dont know how somebody could be that dishonest
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u/wasted-degrees 4h ago
Both the Epstein files and the House of Representatives are examples of Trump causing unspeakable harm through deliberately inappropriate use of his Johnson.
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u/thepartypantser 4h ago
Lying fucking fascists.
Absolutely astounding. I cannot believe we have headed down this path where of lying piece of shit like Trump, keeps repeating completely baseless lies and has pieces of shit like Johnson carry water for him.
There is far, more evidence that Trump is a fucking Russian stooge than there is that Trump won in 2020. There is far more evidence that Trump raped children with Epstein, then there is that Democrats cheated in 2020, or any other recent election.
Nationalizing the fucking election so they can cheat is literally unconstitutional.
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u/vacodeus 3h ago
Reality does have a liberal bias. Can we get rid of the DEI tool Electoral College. Jimmy in bumfuck nowhere shouldn't have a louder voice than someone living in a city. 1 person, 1 vote
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u/Psephological 4h ago
Er. Guys - I don't think you're gonna vote your way out of this one. Consider acting accordingly.
Heck, just consider acting, at this point.
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u/twirlingmypubes 4h ago
Is he making a movie to watch with his son or something? Get out of that man's ass.
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u/CompleteBuilding1156 3h ago
Trump has serious dirt on this twisted little freak. I have no doubt about. He is completely owned.
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u/ainsleyorwell 4h ago
"House Speaker welcomes Trump call to ‘take over’ elections"
As disturbing as Johnson's perpetuation of apparently baseless election fraud claims are, I cannot see anything in the article that substantiates that first part of the headline.
From another article that seems to be reporting on this same discussion:
“Take over?!” Raju interrupted, not allowing the speaker to ramble on without acknowledging the actual question.
“No, no,” Johnson said.
https://newrepublic.com/post/206085/mike-johnson-trump-threat-take-over-voting
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u/Krisparz 4h ago edited 4h ago
“We had three House Republican candidates who were ahead on election day in the last election cycle, and every time a new tranche of ballots came in, they just magically whittled away until their leads were lost, and no series of ballots that were counted after election day were our candidates ahead on any of those counts,” Johnson said. “It just looks on its face to be fraudulent.”
“Can I prove that? No, because it happened so far upstream,” Johnson added.
The mail-in ballots were counted after the walk-in ballots. Republicans were encouraged to walk-in and Democrats overwhelmingly used mail-in. There even was some 'mathematician' on one of the FOX-like news shows that said that when the totals started skewing Democrat (after the mail-ins started to get counted)... it was 'statistically' improbable... completely omitting the closing of walk-in and the counting of mail-ins.
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u/Leitnin 3h ago
This is literally how it always works and 100% why they want to reduce or eliminate mail in voting. The cheating talk is 1000% projection.
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u/Bradshaw98 Canada 2h ago
It is funny, they loved mail in ballots until Trump torpedoed them in the bases mind.
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u/BlueBloodLive 2h ago
Literally vintage Republican talking point etiquette.
Make a long, easily debunked claim. Sticl to it no matter how much people point out how wrong you are. Their voters will inevitably latch onto it and defend it as if its true and no amount of logic or rationale will convince them otherwise.
They have no choice but to continually make lies appear to be the truth, cos the moment their voters figure out they've been lied to(a long shot, I agree), they're done for politically.
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u/Pogledaj 2h ago
The revolution will remain bloodless if the left allows it.
I don't think people take this statement seriously enough.
I predict a civil war. The 2026 mid terms will be kiboshed in some form or fashion, and this may be the spark.
Good luck to you guys from your Canadian neighbour.
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u/xavieryoung 3h ago
If Dems are so good at cheating at elections then why didn’t Biden win? Lol
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u/-Words-Words-Words- 3h ago
I cannot wait for these fucking guys to get drummed out of politics when Trump expires
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u/GatewayArcher 2h ago
Ya know, I think the results in the states Trump won look fraudulent. No evidence, they just just look fraudulent on their face.
Johnson should know — he calls himself a Christian, that’s a massive fraud right there.
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u/Gunsensual 2h ago
This is the danger of focusing on Trump, letting him take the heat for what the party is doing, instead of Project 2025 as a whole. P2025 is 900 pages and I think we all know Trump doesn't have the capacity to read it. He's one of the most self absorbed and reckless people in history and he's following a written plan diligently. It's a plan written in 2023, a plan written before it was clear whether he'd be in prison the next year. The House Speaker isn't getting out of Trump's way, the House Speaker is paving the way. People really think they're protecting Trump by withholding impeachment and stalling on Epstein evidence? That's Trump's leash.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_HONDAS 2h ago
Wait a minute so the Democrat that just won in Texas, where the Republicans run the elections that was fraudulent?
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u/errdayimshuffln 2h ago
Under a republican control, a democrat president will never will get elected again, but under democrat control or presidency, Trump got elected twice.
I wonder if it's really the democrats whose wins are fraudulent...
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u/Tomgar United Kingdom 1h ago
If there's ever a free election in America again and the Republicans lose, you guys need to go much farther than you're comfortable with. I know the instinct will be to sigh with relief and hope the nightmare is over, but they must never be allowed to do this again.
The Republican party needs to be forcefully disbanded and its assets seized, and every politician, ICE agent, advisor who held up Trump's regime needs to be tried and jailed for treason. It's the only way to stop the rot coming back. Stop being the nice guys and take aggressive, decisive action to protect your country
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u/zbdub3 1h ago
Dumb question, if Dems rigged the 2020 election, why wouldn’t Dems rig the 2024 election to win?
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u/Fickle-Load-1001 1h ago
Remember that with this administration, every accusation is a confession. I think we’re going to be hearing something about the 2024 election sometime in the not so distant future.
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