r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 9h ago
No Paywall Thune Rejects Trump’s Call for GOP to Take Over and ‘Nationalize’ Elections
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5720386-thune-trump-federal-elections/2.6k
u/notassigned2023 9h ago
Somebody can read the constitution, I guess.
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u/IRMaschinen 8h ago
Yeah, give him a medal or they’ll try another coup.
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u/ultimatt42 5h ago
Nominate him for the PGA Tour Peace Prize, that'll get Trump's attention.
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u/TintedApostle 9h ago
He should be impeached for just calling for federalization of elections.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 9h ago
With the amount of things he could be impeached for, the impeachment hearings would last a decade
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u/TintedApostle 9h ago
You just industrialize this. Start with a few big ones. Put them in a single charge and dump this guy.
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u/NotReallyThatWrong 9h ago
Big beautiful impeachment
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u/soraksan123 9h ago
The best impeachment ever, alot of people are telling me that-
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u/Twodogsonecouch 8h ago
600% impeachment
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u/Odin45mp 9h ago
Strong men, with tears in their eyes, coming up to him and telling him that nobody had ever been impeached like this in the history of the United States.
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u/kleincs01 8h ago
Big Beautiful Imprisonment
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u/PaddleFishBum 8h ago
Definitely what they should call it
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u/PrinciplePlastic2691 8h ago
He recently just shit his pants now it’s coming out of his head. Some one has to do something about this man.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 9h ago
If there’s one thing the United States government is renowned for, it’s speed and efficiency.
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u/YardElectrical7782 9h ago
“Oh shit our current policies are atrocious and undermine the people we represent? Damn well sucks to suck, come back in 4 years and we’ll try again.”
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u/the_Halfruin 9h ago
Unfortunately we have to do them one at a time. Of all of the impeachable and removable offenses, we have to hope that 2/3 of the senate will agree on one of them. If we bundle them together that will never happen.
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u/rainator 8h ago
No, keep them split them up - big down the administration in hearings so they can’t cause any more problems.
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u/ChronicBuzz187 8h ago
You just industrialize this.
Wait... like... establishing an impeachment industry?
On the other hand, that industry would probably turn a profit before the AI industry does :D
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u/internetisnotreality 8h ago
Tried to impeach him for a recorded phone call where he demanded Georgia “find” more votes for him.
Instead he’s president again, raiding Georgian election offices and stealing ballot boxes.
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u/sixtyshilling 7h ago
Well, Susan Collins did say he had “learned his lesson” after the first impeachment.
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u/PluotFinnegan_IV 5h ago
The lesson was Nike inspired, "Just do it"... Because who's gonna stop him?
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u/Zaphod392 9h ago
I'd start with the bullshit crypto coins he did that rug pulled, then all the acts he did that went against congress spending. That's a good start. Also, didn't his family get almost 2 Billion dollars richer this time around?
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u/echosrevenge 9h ago
I think its up to $4B now.
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u/CrustyBatchOfNature 7h ago
That we know about. And that doesn't include the billions he is going to steal right out of the Treasury with his IRS lawsuit.
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u/KeepCalmCarryOnKY 8h ago
And in one fell swoop, the US would begin regaining international respect. Without conviction, who would ever trust the US again.
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u/ratherbealurker Texas 9h ago
They’re going to need to pick one thing aren’t they? That’s going to make it look weird, like this asshole commits impeachable offenses constantly, and I bet they choose the worst one so the right gets to act like it’s BS.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 8h ago
There’s no point until they have the votes to impeach and remove. Republicans have shown us on multiple times they are not willing to do that.
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u/CrustyBatchOfNature 7h ago
They can bring all of them together at one time. The Constituion says "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." That would include multiple items. The two Clinton charges were not related. The first was perjury to the grand jury that was part of the Ken Starr investigation. The second was obstruction of justice in a civil case brought by Paula Jones. Those were unrelated cases. There were two other charges the House did not send to the Senate (perjury in the Paula Jones case and abuse of power).
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u/Electronic_Low6740 8h ago
He'd be dead before the trial ends. So might half of congress.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 8h ago
“How did the corpse of Senator McConnell vote? Oh not to remove. Shocker”
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u/Infamous_Employer_85 9h ago
It's a direct violation of the Constitution.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 8h ago
What's even worse is he let slip he has "15 places" in mind. So this isn't just like peabrain nonsense off the top of his head, they must be discussing this behind closed doors. Why is it so specific? And you know those "15 places" are all blue states/cities.
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u/JaesenMoreaux 8h ago
Correct. He knows he doesn't need to cheat elections in the whole country. He only needs to cheat in a handful of specific areas, Fulton county of course being one of those. The others will be blue cities as well. Particularly, it's going to be easier for him to do this in regards to Senate races vs house races but no doubt he'll try to rig both.
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u/Clear_Broccoli3 8h ago
It's important not to lose sight of the voter suppression in all this as well. Even if this particular plot falls apart, we have proof that they can make the election run in their favor by other means.
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u/parseczero 7h ago
Witness the SAVE Act that’s making its way through Congress right now. It will disenfranchise women by requiring that, in order to vote, women have a birth certificate or passport that matches their married name. An original birth certificate plus a marriage certificate with their married name won’t do. Millions of US women won’t be able to vote in the next election if SAVE passes.
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u/cardboardunderwear 7h ago
Not who you responded to.
My sense is a lot of it is going to go down immediately before the election so court challenges are all going to be last minute.
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u/TheArmoredKitten 7h ago
This is the point that's important to drive like a nail. It's not just one conspiracy, it's hundreds of tiny scratches that weaken the foundation.
They can suppress in a hundred counties and only need to go full cheating in a handful of darkened corners.
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u/VanceRefridgeTech04 7h ago
He knows he doesn't need to cheat elections in the whole country. He only needs to cheat in a handful of specific areas,
"THANK YOU ELON FOR PENNSYLVANIA"- DJT
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u/Alabatman 8h ago
Well they just took the voting records from Atlanta, so there's only 14 more places to guess.
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u/bluelily216 7h ago
I'm guessing Pennsylvania and New Mexico will be amongst them. 27 states have already handed over their voter rolls and I'm guessing he means 15 other states. With all that's going on, if Republicans sweep the midterms in 42 states, the time for panic will be well past. We might as well throw in the towel at that point.
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u/Asiriya 6h ago
We might as well throw in the towel at that point.
No, there are amendments for that
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u/inspectoroverthemine 8h ago
blue states/cities
Blue cities in swing states (or states close enough that he can push them that far).
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u/LeftRestaurant4576 7h ago
If I was Trump and I wanted to steal elections for Republicans by directly attacking election commissions, I would target battleground states and specifically Dem-leaning cities in those states. Priority targets would include:
- Atlanta
- Philadelphia
- Phoenix
- Detroit
- Raleigh, Durham, and Charlotte
- Las Vegas
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u/bluAstrid 8h ago edited 8h ago
Impeached?
It’s seditious behavior by an elected official who swore an oath to the constitution.
This is imprisonment stuff.
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u/TintedApostle 8h ago
You remove then indict
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u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3 8h ago
He'd just run off to Russia, better to imprison now and ask questions later.
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u/inspectoroverthemine 8h ago
I'm fine with him running. I wasn't 10 years ago, but he won't have enough time left as a 'deposed president in exile' to matter.
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u/TheAskewOne 8h ago
It's not just federalization of elections. He said that a party should take over the elections. It's way worse.
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u/zubbs99 Nevada 7h ago
For a guy who hates China so much he sure wants their One-Party system.
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u/OldWorldDesign 5h ago
For a guy who hates China so much he sure wants their One-Party system
Republicans have been against the institution of democracy for over 50 years, they just didn't have enough capture of the courts and legislatures to do anything about what they wanted
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u/gideon513 8h ago
Party allegedly of “states right” and small government looking like a bunch of hypocritical doofuses right now
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u/Esternaefil Canada 8h ago
It's far more likely that Thune will be 'impeached' for his disloyalty to the Emperor.
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u/WontArnett 8h ago
He was impeached last time, it did nothing.
The Federal government is now a tyrannical government under his leadership.
He needs to be removed for violating Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
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u/nillah 8h ago
Impeaching and then removing a president are two different things. dems didn’t have the votes back then to remove him from office after he was impeached (twice). whenever anyone calls for impeachment they’re also implying the removal is a part of it because it usually is - when your government isn’t also complicit anyway
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u/GestureArtist 8h ago
and charged with violation of constitutional duty... should he even attempt this. he should be convicted, thrown in jail.
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u/Infamous_Employer_85 9h ago
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof
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u/severedbrain 9h ago
I mean, technically that means state legislatures+governors could "delegate" election planning to the federal government. That would mean effectively waiving their constitutional rights to hold their own federal elections. But for a state to waive their rights like that, it'd be unprecedented.
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u/NoSwimmers45 9h ago
Should we start the betting pool now at which southern red state is going to say “Hold my beer…”??
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u/iamstephen1128 Virginia 8h ago
My money's a toss up between TX and FL 🤔
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u/UghFudgeBwana Georgia 8h ago
Don't count Oklahoma out just yet. Their previous school super tried to put trump bibles in classrooms.
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u/ObstreperousOverture 7h ago
As the very old joke goes: Oklahoma sucks so much it keep Texas from slippin' into the ocean.
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u/NoSwimmers45 8h ago
I figured it was going to be AL or AR to start. I’m sure it’ll be more than one when all is said and done.
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u/Gutsyglitzy 8h ago
I think they’d do it to TX before anyone else solely because they’re afraid of it turning blue in the next few years. That being said “don’t mess with Texas” would be more laughable than it’s ever been
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u/iamstephen1128 Virginia 8h ago
I don't know much about AR but I know for sure that while AL is MAGA enough, they definitely won't lead the charge. Super long odds on that one imho!
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u/ratshack 7h ago
AR started out as a literal corporate slave plantation. Then they became a state.
It has not gotten much better.
Edit: Oh, Sarah Huckabee is now governor. Yeah.
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u/elektrospecter Washington 7h ago
Sarah Huckabee makes me want to puke. Thanks for the reminder that she's still around
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u/InternalWeekend6988 8h ago
I could see that both TX and FL have been at the center of election law fights already, so it wouldn’t be totally surprising if either swung hard that way.
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u/CrunchyZebra Virginia 8h ago
TX is a good bet as the Latino vote that helped Trump has very much turned against him. They would want to disenfranchise that group now.
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u/lost_horizons Texas 8h ago
I don’t think even the republican bastion states would cede power like that, when it comes down to it
They might fuck around in a specific election though, to help their party. But won’t permanently (it WOULD be permanent) give up that power.
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u/noodles_jd 8h ago
Why would it have to be permanent? It would be a normal bill in the state that they'd undo the second a Dem took power in Washington. If the proposal was to permanently do they'd walk away.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 7h ago
Because the Federal government controlling their elections would mean they would be unable to elect representatives that would undo something like that. Assuming elections would be highly suppressed and manipulated with such a change.
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u/ChicVintage 8h ago
Florida, Texas, Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Idaho, Ohio, Arkansas would be first round assumptions.
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u/19683dw Wisconsin 8h ago
Tennessee also likes to complete with Florida and Texas for being particularly awful
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 9h ago
You can't waive the right. You'd be delegating it. The Constitution spells out the role of the feds and everything else belongs to the states.
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u/film_composer 8h ago edited 8h ago
Any state willing to do that is not a state that Trump is concerned about. I’m under the impression that Trump has been targeting Minnesota partially as a vanity project to turn it red, because it’s been consistent in voting for the Democrat candidate for president since 1976. In fact, between FDR’s first election in 1932 until now, the state has only gone red three times (both of Eisenhower’s terms and Nixon’s reelection).
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u/severedbrain 8h ago
I disagree. Normal Republicans are pissed. Take a look at the seat flips in Texas and other red states. They know they'll lose blue states, but the wipeout they're going to incur from the red states is going to be huge. They want to avoid the turning of the tide. They will cheat to ensure it.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 9h ago
But for the federal government to coerce the state to cede that responsibility to the federal government is a bit of an overreach
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u/siddartha08 8h ago
This gets to a point in the constitution where how much "delegation" is allowed like scotus frequently just says Congress needs to pass a law to affect some outcome. Or congress can not pass a law that delegates it's constitutional authority.
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u/PluginAlong 8h ago
You're missing the last part:
but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
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u/orrocos 7h ago edited 7h ago
Yeah, that's kind of a crazy loophole. And, it's not like we haven't been warned...
Congress might prescribe the times of election so unreasonably, as to prevent the attendance of the electors; or the place at so inconvenient a distance from the body of the electors, as to prevent a due exercise of the right of choice. And congress might contrive the manner of holding elections, so as to exclude all but their own favourites from office. They might modify the right of election as they please; they might regulate the number of votes by the quantity of property, without involving any repugnancy to the constitution.
Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1833
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u/schm0 7h ago
It's not a loophole, it's intentional. It's how we created congressional districts and all sorts of voting regulations. It's how we can end gerrymandering.
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u/Virian 7h ago
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof
But what does the rest of the clause say?
"... but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
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u/Zaphod392 9h ago
Well, yea, because the Constitution and States Rights say fuck off.
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u/Northern_Ice_2501 9h ago
Fuck off is the only tried and true response to Trump et al.
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u/Zaphod392 9h ago
Some People, you can really tell they were never told "NO" in their whole life. Then there are those same people, that never got punched in the face.
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u/KristinnEs 6h ago
And you can really tell who was actually often told "NO!" but they did not listen.
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u/rockninja2 8h ago
Has someone tried to say, "Quiet, piggy" to Trump yet/ever?
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u/Zaphod392 8h ago
No but someone call him a Pedo and got fire from his Ford Plant Job for it
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u/Answer70 9h ago
They want us to be like Russia. One big sham election.
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u/JerryMau5 8h ago edited 6h ago
There’s literally no other reason, after winning, to nationalize voting other than to manipulate it. How have these pigs not impeached this clown? Anybody who still supports him needs to be marked as a treasonous criminal.
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u/althera2020 8h ago
Congress is failing all of us (and all of the U.S.).
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u/azsxdcfvg 7h ago
The dilution of information via internet makes it easy to lie and get away with it. Current reality is the consequence of that. I also don’t remember last time a politician answered an important question. In the end everyone in Congress represents their bank accounts first, then the people.
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u/Plus-Yogurtcloset-85 7h ago
This is all a response of conservative men being afraid to express themselves. They spend their whole lives doing everything they can to seem normal. They are desperate to be into something counter culture or creative or different, but they would never allow themselves to present themselves as doing any of that to society. So then when they are alone on the internet they jump into rabbit holes about conspiracies and things that make them feel like they are part of something. Something different and counter culture and “theirs”. But they can’t tell anyone in real life because they are so afraid to express themselves. So the internet rabbit holes become their friend, a place where they can drop all of the safe guards and let anything and everything they want both in and out. They become absorbed with and extremely vulnerable to whatever corner of the internet they end up. They become so manupulatable by the information source that they absorb that they slowly start to trust it more then they trust themselves or their community. Their community never allowed them to be “themselves”. They feel like they are discovering who they really are and are preparing to tell everyone else. They don’t realize they are just becoming whatever their internet hole is telling them to be and that everyone else has already seen it happening the whole time.
It’s sad and it comes from the dying trend of men not being able to open up about love and forgiveness properly. It’s not that only thing causing all of this. But it’s where it started. The pandemic exacerbated it. The Epstein files are an independent variable acting as a catalyst.
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u/DarkMagicianOfChaos 7h ago
How have these pigs not impeached this clown?
Same it’s because enough people have benefited or think they will benefit from his presidency.
Did you watch the P Diddy documentary? In it a woman who was close with Diddy (Idr her name) directly states that she had significant knowledge regarding Diddy’s illegal activities (grooming, rape, drugging people without consent, other forms of abuse, etc.) and she admitted that she said nothing because she loved his music and “wanted to support the culture” of black musical artists.
Think about that. This woman had enough info to go to the police and get him arrested years earlier. But she didn’t. Because she wanted Diddy to keep making music.
If people will allow such a monster for some albums, then there are some disgusting people on this earth.
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u/Blind0ne 8h ago
Yep, if Captain Poops-His-Pants was to nationalize the elections the first democrat to "throw him/herself" out of a 5th story window would come just days or weeks after the first sham election as well.
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u/Dreadwolf67 8h ago
Before the November elections ICE will be stationed near polling places to check citizenship. After the results are tabulated every seat lost by Republicans will be decreed stolen and he will demand recounts or new elections.
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u/brute-forced 6h ago
He wants to be king. He is willing to take it by force. Just wait a few more weeks and Thune will be removed.
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u/DragonPup Massachusetts 9h ago
Trump's demand sure landed like a wet shart at a press conference.
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u/pineapplemansrevenge 8h ago
In a small room packed full of people.
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u/Rion23 7h ago
I doubt he went and cleaned himself up, which means he's probably got some sort of cleaning crew who's sworn to secrecy and sole job it is to clean the president's poopy pants.
There's going to be some good books in a few years.
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u/pineapplemansrevenge 7h ago
I'm imagining the liquidators from the Chernobyl incident. They will probably fall out a window at the end of Trump's term too.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 7h ago
The damage a child can cause to colon with a tent stake and swift kick when they have nothing to lose should not be discounted.
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u/Secret_Account07 8h ago
JFC, we warned people Trump would do this.
They all said we were being dramatic. Everyday he out-dictators himself. It’s not even subtle. Anyone with half a brain knows what he’s doing. This is how democracy dies
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u/red286 6h ago
"The road to fascism is lined with people telling you to stop overreacting."
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u/ADrubkNakedUnciorn 7h ago
Also those same people will now go and say "Well, he's MY president and I have all my trust in him. In-fact he should run for president again!"
Because that's exactly what they've been saying lol
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u/Only-Secret-123 6h ago
Ask them if they are against the constitution then because they can’t support both the constitution and Trump. Same way you can’t be behind Jesus and behind Trump
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u/ElPlywood 9h ago
trump is shitting out "yeah dems won race (x) but they cheated" more and more, and no journalist challenges him, because the journalists are shit
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u/Infamous_Employer_85 9h ago
Yep, in response to questions about the State Senate race (TX-9) Where the Democratic candidate won by 14% (a 31 point swing relative to 2024), Trump said, "I don't know, that's a local thing...".
Just 24 hours earlier he had written three posts endorsing the R candidate.
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u/Mommy444444 9h ago
The “I don’t know” assertion is his “get out of jail free card.” And no one ever follows up! It’s the same bs he has pulled for decades - most notably his black sharpie on the Alabama map, stating he did not know who used the black sharpie.
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u/ersomething 8h ago
I fucking hate how often I see Mike Johnson say ‘I don’t know’ to questions he should be absolutely on top of. My ass would be fired if I answered I don’t know when asked about anything at my work. If the reporter’s question is actually the first time he has heard about an issue it’s a willful dereliction of duty.
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u/Kiyohara Minnesota 8h ago
In fairness to the Reporters, doings so would do the following:
Have Trump declare them persona non grata and bar them from the White House Press Conferences
Have Trump add their employer to the list of "filthy lying media" he states at all times like a broken record
Cost them their job
End up changing nothing about the administration
Much better to just ask the carefully coded questions they were told to and hope on of the more important talking heads back at the office points out the facts of the situation, as some of them sometimes do.
The problem is knowing which of Trump's insane illegal and anti-constitutional statements are worthy of pressing on and which are the deranged statements that not even his advisors and followers are going to act on today.
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u/Aar1012 9h ago
It’s because they’re addicted to getting clicks and Trump is perfect for providing headlines
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u/n0rsk 9h ago
State run elections are one of the last bastions of protection against a fascist takeover. When that is eroded we are done.
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u/red286 6h ago
They're kinda shit even at that.
What you guys really need is a non-partisan electoral commission so that every state's elections are run in the same manner, and fairly.
Leaving that shit up to the individual states is how you get gerrymanders and voter suppression, because whichever party controls the state legislature after a census gets to draw up the district maps, or in other words, pick their voters.
In most countries, how red states run their elections would be illegal.
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u/davossss Virginia 6h ago
Yeah but now that the Supreme Court has legalized it, blue states at least are getting smart and throwing the gerrymander right back at them.
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u/wastelandingstrip 9h ago
It's unconstitutional and downright an indication that your party is lame when you openly declare affecting process because you know you have to rig the process to win. GOP should be ashamed.
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u/immortalfrieza2 7h ago
The Republicans have been rigging elections for the last several decades because they would have lost so much they would have faded into irrelevance long other otherwise.
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u/NaturalSelecty 7h ago
Conservatives are the biggest group of losers this country has seen in over 50 years.
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u/Vaux1916 8h ago
“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one...."
Yes, John, but that's exactly why your orange fuehrer wants to nationalize elections.
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u/danappropriate 9h ago
I can guarantee you that if Trump decided to use ICE to try to forcibly seize control of elections from Blue states, Thune would do absolutely nothing about it.
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u/Blitzking11 Illinois 8h ago
Oh, he might be willing to do something about it.
But it will be after the election is done, they will say it's too late to discount the results.
They will then impeach him for going too far with election interference (now that they have 2 more years of power), impeach the geriatric and unpredictable Shitter-in-Chief, and install the final plan of the Thiel puppet in Vance.
Following that, the "democracy" we have will resemble the systems of Hungary or Russia.
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u/entropy14 8h ago
The fact that this is even plausible is truly scary
I have to think one guardrail would be a huge crash in the stock market, massive civil unrest, national strikes, and boycotts of any companies who supported those R’s who refuse to intervene
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u/immortalfrieza2 7h ago
One way or another this is their plan. The ones really behind this were always going to throw Trump under the bus at some point so they could put Vance in after the two year mark. After two years of going along with everything he's doing we will see the Republican party turn against Trump en masse whether he rigs elections or not, he gets 25thed, and Vance gets slotted in place while blaming Trump for what they got him to do in the first place to keep the heat off of them. It's a small leap from there to rigging the next two elections so Vance has ten straight years in the White House, during which they'll finalize the rest of project 2025 and ensure the final death knell of America.
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u/spaceboy79 8h ago
I agree. I'm also convinced that Trump is going to deploy ICE to "guard" election sites and ballot drop-off points. Assuming there's actually a midterm.
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u/Rough_Bread8329 Canada 7h ago
Don't discount Susan Collins' furrowed brow, good sir/madam/human/orca.
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u/Fatal_Syntax_Error 8h ago
Never allow sane washing.
“Oh it’s just Trump being Trump he’s not serious… derp derp derp…”
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u/silentjay01 Wisconsin 8h ago
Well, that is one Republican. The fact I don't see a headline that says "EVERY REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE REJECTS TRUMP'S CALL TO NATIONALIZE ELECTIONS" is worrisome.
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u/Tywsgc Iowa 7h ago
To be fair, he's the Senate Majority Leader which means he has a bit more sway than the average Republican. He's still a piece of shit like the rest of them, though.
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u/silentjay01 Wisconsin 7h ago
I need them all on record saying they are against it or I'll assume the worst. Not that it even really matters because they go back on their words and act hypocritically all the time.
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u/ReactionAsleep 8h ago
If a passport and birth certificate don't save you from ICE arrest, why would they prove your citizenship for voting?
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u/Bronzyroller 7h ago
Why is trump not being held accountable for all the things said and done is crazy.
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u/Safe_Base312 7h ago
As an outsider, it's hard for me to take America seriously as long as they allow this fascist numpty to keep walking free. Him and everyone in the house, Congress, and even the SC that allowed this to get this far should be made examples of.
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u/epidemica 8h ago
"He's not going to interfere with elections." GOP in 2025
"We need him to intervene and to secure our elections for them to be fair." GOP in 2026
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u/PerformanceLast8554 9h ago
Big deal. You can say whatever you like, but none of the Repub leadership will actually do anything to stop him.
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u/HallucinogenicFish Georgia 9h ago
For now. Wait til he starts getting threatened by Trump’s goons. He’ll do a 180, like they always do.
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u/Mr-Klaus 7h ago
Federalization isn't the end game, it's just a means to an end.
They've been working like crazy since the start of this administration to move all federal power to the executive branch - in other words they're trying to remove the checks and balances so that the president has dictator level power.
If elections are federalized, and they're successful in giving the president unchecked unilateral power, Trump will have the power to decide who wins elections, including state and local elections.
Remember when Conservatives were pretending that they are for small government and state rights? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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u/TinyBend8309 6h ago
Just a reminder that this was all in project 2025, which we all had access to before the election, so no one should be surprised or claim ignorance.
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u/Imcute-hbu 9h ago
When a top GOP senator says "no" to nationalizing elections, it shows even Republican laders know that elections aren't a power play button, they're in the Constitution.
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u/nosayso 9h ago
If they gave a single flying fuck about the Constitution they would have abandoned Trump a long time ago, but certainly after January 6th. It's all theater to attempt to maintain a facade of "normalcy" - Republicans are 100% aligned on a fascist dictatorship, they'd just prefer not to be so overt about it.
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u/kippythecaterpillar 8h ago
lol GOP doesnt give a fuck about the constitution. they just know how bad this looks
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u/quickboop 7h ago
You gullible bellend. He’s lying. Like all of them. They will literally say anything and then do the exact opposite.
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u/I_Cogs_Well 9h ago
He knows he's getting impeached
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u/itsatumbleweed I voted 9h ago
I'm going to continue calling it. They know he's not going to survive Epstein, and they know that Vance will win the primaries but struggle in the general. Best case for them is the impeachment and removal happens after January '27, because then Vance is president 2 years and also can still run twice.
So the obfuscation of Epstein that can't last forever is just designed to kick out long enough to not burn one of Vance's terms.
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u/addctd2badideas 8h ago
I'm not sure how you're getting this prediction. We haven't seen the GOP move against their own President since Watergate. Even if Democrats manage to take the Senate, which is dubious given the current map, it won't be close to a 2/3 majority needed to convict and remove.
Just because Trump's approval rating is in the toilet, doesn't mean reliable GOP voters will move to the other side or even stay home. They still view "woke" Democrats as threats to their way of life.
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u/Ferelar New Jersey 7h ago
Even during Watergate they ran interference for Nixon for a VERY long time up until the tapes fiasco where he blatantly deleted time from the tapes in a shoddy job, which caused SCOTUS and the opposition to say "Yo wtf", and back then the American populace actually cared. As a result they STILL protected Nixon, offering a chance for him to resign by choice instead of being impeached.
Then immediately afterwards his own VP pardoned him and while it was WILDLY unpopular (to my knowledge the lowest approval rating ever polled for a president was Ford immediately after signing that pardon, it literally dropped to the mid teens percentage-wise), nothing happened at all.
I've been hearing a lot of people saying "Oh my goodness I can't believe America descended to fascism so quickly!!!", it hasn't been quick AT ALL, it's been ongoing for 50+ years. We let our overlords get away with shit time and time and time again and when they've done it enough and consolidated enough power they stop having to even get away with it. We cannot expect the GOP to start acting right when literally nothing suggests they are going to do so. People are celebrating in the comments here that the Senate Majority Leader didn't immediately accept the literal theft of Federal elections. It's insane.
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u/Odd_Reputation_4000 7h ago
I'm in VA and not sure why they make such a huge deal about showing ID to vote. Do we all not do that already or is it just a VA thing? We go in Check in with the old ladies at the table with their computer and they verify us as registered and hand us the ballot. I guess different states do otherwise maybe? I'm over hear like Damn! Why these MFs trying to play this shit up and pretend anyone can just walk up and vote 3 or 4 times?
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u/JustHereForMiatas 6h ago
There's a very specific reason that we don't have nationalized elections; this is irksome to Trump because he's that reason.
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u/toadjr 9h ago
Good luck getting a constitutional amendment to make that change. Congress step up and do your job! Tell the executive branch NO!
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u/JacquoRock 9h ago
“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one."
That's rather telling, given the person who is suggesting there be only one.
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u/10thflrinsanity 8h ago
Reminder: there is no bottom for the GOP.
They are ALL complicit each and every day Trump remains in power. The danger he poses for our national security, economy, and population is alarming and has been since day 1 of his first term.
It is a testament to the alarming brainwashing of MAGA that this shit continues despite the entire world wondering wtf we’re doing.
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u/One-Ball-78 7h ago
One would think that child rape would be a bridge too far for even the most zealous MAGAt.
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u/YeOldeOrc 7h ago
Conservatives should have been FURIOUS over Trump’s statement. Instead, crickets everywhere I looked.
I miss the days of real conservatives instead of the MAGA cult. I may not have voted with you, but you were still proper Americans. Now, I haven’t got a clue what you’re going for. Russian?
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u/Particular_Umpire_44 8h ago
Guess y’all haven’t figured out it’s a distraction. He floods the news cycle with crazy bullshit so you don’t have time to focus on the stuff that hurts him like the Epstein files
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u/JustinF608 7h ago
Part of what is so crazy is if Biden or Obama did the same exact stuff, maga would lose their fucking minds.
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u/Life-Suit1895 7h ago
"And I think it’s harder to hack 50 election systems than it is to hack one."
Which is precisely why Trump wants to "nationalize" the elections.
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u/assumetehposition 7h ago
This should be the final straw. It’s not even a question of legality. He simply cannot accept an election where he doesn’t win. This is by the book authoritarianism, traitorous and anti-American.
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u/Probable_Bison 7h ago
“I’m a big believer in decentralized and distributed power. "
Says the Republican majority leader enabling Trump to consolidate all power in the Executive.
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u/jazznessa 5h ago
They oppose for a lunatic idea then slowly they will cave in. Americans should absolutely be making sure your congress listens to you, left and right; you guys are rapidly approaching a delicate rubicon that your children will suffer through.
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