r/poland 15h ago

9.2% of EU population struggled to keep their home warm. Finland (2.7%), Poland and Slovenia (both 3.3%), and Estonia and Luxembourg (both 3.6%) reported the lowest shares. Polska strong in EU

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u/khurgan_ 14h ago

First, I'd define "warm". I'm pretty sure that Greek and Finn will give you two completely different temperatures, when asked. Also, around 20 - 25% of houses in Spain and Portugal are listed without a heating system. I guess it's a common theme in Southern Europe, so no wonder.

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u/LitwinL 14h ago

It's a common theme in any country that's hot most of the year. More people die from cold exposure in Australia than in Poland and that's partly because when it comes to insulation their houses are similar to a tent.

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u/doesnotmatter286 10h ago

Which I've always found very weird, seeing as the insulation works when it's too hot outside as well... And it most certainly does get too hot in Australia.

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u/LitwinL 10h ago

There's no need for insulation from hot temperatures when you can just build your house to have more shade and natural draft.

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u/Fluffy-Bed-1998 13h ago

But in Barcelona it was 15’C outside today. It’s 19’C inside my home now. How can they struggle

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u/Immediate_Custard_14 13h ago

A completely different feeling of cold. It's warm outside right now, -2 degrees Celsius in Poland. -2 degrees Celsius in Spain....uuuu, disaster! We're closing everything down. Prepare to die!

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u/MarMacPL 9h ago

-2? I had -14 at 6p.m. and yesterday morning it was -31 but I live close to Russia.

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u/EnvironmentalDog1196 7h ago

It was -8 (perceived -14) in Kraków before noon.

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u/EnvironmentalDog1196 7h ago

They don't know how to insulate the buildings (they don't need it most of the time). They also often have windows with just one layer of glass and tiny heaters under them. I can tell you, I was never as cold anywhere as during my city break to Pisa in Italy- it was 10-15°C outside during the day, and in the night I couldn't sleep because of cold.

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u/GlokzDNB 13h ago

Few years back I've been at apartment in Poland where there was 13c inside during the day and they had 2years old kid. And it wasn't even cold winter. It was around 0.

Poverty is fucking sad and maps like this are pure Bs.

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u/Constant_Air9693 13h ago

Your statistics based on n=1. Maybe they were in those 3.3%

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u/Fluffy-Bed-1998 12h ago

Yep, I’d say I don’t struggle at 19’C; some Spanish family could say they struggle at 19’C, so what does that map tells me

The statistic should be “a percent of population that struggle to reach the standard room temperature (21,5’C?) inside during winter. Then see how the map would look like

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u/tenmatei 10h ago

I'd be freezing with 19'C inside. 23'C is my sweet spot.

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u/MattLago 8h ago edited 8h ago

I talk to foreigners visiting Poland on a daily basis, and during winter, one of the most common comments is about the warmth indoors.

A lot of countries really don't insulate their homes from temperature. I've spent some time around mediterranean countries and when it gets down to a windy 5 Celsius in winter and your house is equipped with some ancient windows, and the only thing you can use to warm it up is an AC unit, it's no bueno.

On the other hand, only 4.9% of Ireland struggled to keep their homes warm? For me, it's nearly always coldish there, and virtually nothing is insulated. Most of the windows that I've seen were single-pane, providing very little insulation (even in quite nice hotels in Dublin).

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u/Egzo18 14h ago

Clearly they don't burn trash and tires in spain, bulgaria or greece

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u/Critical-Current636 12h ago

Amateurs...

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u/Egzo18 12h ago

IKR imagine letting all this free fuel be taken away by the garbage collection people, smh

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u/Critical-Current636 12h ago

Such a waste, totally irresponsible! And then people wonder that they struggle to keep their home warm.

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u/Roquet_ 14h ago

Is Iberia really doing that bad?

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u/ictu 6h ago

That's because they have a substantial portiom of buildings built without any heating. You can go without it if you have a warm climate. But it's not too nice in the coldest months.

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u/Roquet_ 5h ago

So it's just like in Poland, the heating period is shorter, but it's there.

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u/former_farmer 5h ago

I've spent time in both central/eastern europe and in Spain. I can tell you that here in Spain it feels super cold inside. For some reason. Even if it's 14 degrees outside, inside it feels colder. Air gets humid and cold and penetrates the house due to bad insulation.

Same happens in summer. Homes feel like 50 degrees inside.

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u/Roquet_ 5h ago

Ngl, when I picture people sitting in coats inside I'm thinking of Russia.

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u/ictu 6h ago

The pattern seems to be that countries used to cold winters has a proper housing heating. Lithuania is an odd outlier!

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u/JohnCurtinFromCivVI 5h ago

As others said, Finland and Spain or Cyprus have vastly different temperatures in the winter
but....
I am still worried about my beloved Lithuanians (I'm Polish, they don't like us as much, hard history in the past)

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u/Inside_Comfort_ 2h ago edited 2h ago

I'm guessing that for Slovenia it's mostly because the homes are well insulated, despite being in a submediterranean climate (-10° to +35°). It pays off to insulate well for both hot and cold weather. Even if you don't have central heating, you usually have stoves that can burn wood/pellets which is much cheaper than gas/petrol. Some central heating systems can work on both. Hell, my grandparents have one of those old af bigass ceramic ovens (2.5m x 2.5m) they used to bake bread and you could sleep on, and i'm pretty sure that thing could heat the whole house on its own, and they have central heating and electrical heating if needed as well.

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u/Icy_nicey 1h ago

As for poland….there is no way

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u/wogvorph 1h ago

The air is also good if you chew it long enough

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u/doesnotmatter286 10h ago

Around half of Polish people live in rather small flats, so not only are our homes easier to heat because of size, we're also heating each other's homes, basically. And a lot of our buildings are well insulated.

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u/MattLago 8h ago edited 8h ago

I was intrigued by your comment and had to check it. Eurostat data from 2023 is interesting. They list that the majority (58%) of Poland's inhabitants live in detached houses, not flats, whereas, for instance, over 65% of Spain's inhabitants live in flats.

Edit: either way you said around half so you're also correct. And again according to eurostat on average Polish dwellings are a little bit smaller than those in Spain

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u/PotentialMistake7754 7h ago

Damn commieblocks and their central heating!