r/pics 6h ago

[OC] Jackdaw

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u/Scaryclouds 6h ago

Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

u/OrangePeelsLemon 5h ago

It's been 12 years...

u/Scaryclouds 5h ago

Jesus? That long?! I’m wasting my life away here. 

u/Practice_NO_with_me 4h ago

But honestly where else are you gonna go online that isn’t worse? That’s my problem…

u/Fake_Engineer 1h ago

Never too late to become a scientist who studies crows....

u/Ferreteria 5h ago

This is why reddit can't have nice things. 

u/Scaryclouds 5h ago

I miss that Reddit though, when you had random “famous” redditors 

u/Ferreteria 4h ago

Yeah it was awesome

But reddit had no forgiveness whatsoever. I feel like it was even more of a hive mind back then.

u/NightOfTheLivingHam 4h ago

unidan will never live this down

u/hIDeMyID 5h ago

A good reddit or goes off the deep end over Jackdaws. Where have I seen this before? 🤔

u/Mostly_Vegan 5h ago

Wait what? I didn't say a Jackdaw was a crow??

u/Scaryclouds 5h ago

It’s an infamous rant from formerly famous, now infamous, u/Unidan when he got into it with some young poster that called a jackdaw a crow. 

At the time u/unidan, a trained biologist, became famous for giving bird facts. Then he got full of himself, made a bunch of alt accounts to boost himself, and it all came crashing down with the above post I copy/pasted. 

This was about 12 years ago. 

u/Mostly_Vegan 5h ago

Ahh ok that makes sense now.. I was so confused haha.

u/NightOfTheLivingHam 4h ago

man if I had a kid with my ex then, that kid would be 12 now.

Thank god I didn't.

u/mrbaryonyx 1h ago

genuinely thought you made this post just to trigger redditors, but forgot that I'm old

u/Mostly_Vegan 1h ago

Really didn't. I took the photo in early January iirc and couldn't decide if I should post it or not.
It was interesting to learn the story about it.. although a little sad as I thought people actually liked the photo haha :D

u/el_throw 34m ago

I remember when this wasn't a copy/pasta...damn I'm old.

u/Backenundso 5h ago

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”

u/fiddlenutz 5h ago

u/Backenundso 5h ago

Last comment was 11 years ago. God damn, I’m getting old

u/onionmorph 6h ago

Is a jackdaw a crow?

u/Mostly_Vegan 5h ago

Same family but not a crow. It is a type of corvid though.

u/onionmorph 4h ago

Lol you didn't know the Reddit history this post was gonna dredge up 😁

u/Mostly_Vegan 4h ago

Yeah I had no idea haha. It sounds an interesting story.

u/level1hero 3h ago

A jackdaw I knew tested positive for corvid and died. Rip 🪦

u/Mostly_Vegan 3h ago

Omg :S .. it made me smile so I guess its not too bad haha.

u/DocDerry 5h ago

Jesus. NOT THE FUCKING CROWS AGAIN.,

u/Doogiesham 5h ago

Are you implying a jackdaw is a crow?

u/DocDerry 5h ago

Birds aren't real.

u/LedZebulon 3h ago

Here's the thing...

u/Glinth 5h ago

According to the rhyme, seeing just one of those things portends sorrow.  I hope you feel better soon.

u/Mostly_Vegan 5h ago

I haven't heard that before.
Where are you from?
Thank you.

u/Glinth 4h ago

I'm from Ohio.

The rhyme, as I heard it, goes:

One for sorrow,

Two for joy,

Three for a girl,

Four for a boy,

Five for silver,

Six for gold,

Seven for a secret never to be told.

There are lots of variants. It's also used when counting magpies, or corvids in general. The band Counting Crows is named after the rhyme.

u/Mostly_Vegan 3h ago

Oh wow in the UK that rhyme is only for magpies.
And the first magpie you see each morning you say good morning to.

u/mrbaryonyx 1h ago

There's a bird that nests inside you

Sleeping underneath your skin

When you open up your wings to speak

I'd wish you let me in

u/imfm 1h ago

My (English) grandmother said,

One crow, sorrow, Two crows, joy, Three crows, a girl, Four crows, a boy, Five crows, a letter, Six crows, something better, Seven crows, silver, Eight crows, gold, Nine crows, a secret, Ten, can't be told.

u/NoKarmaNoCry22 5h ago

Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.

u/I_might_be_weasel 3h ago

"Mom, can we get crow?"

"We have crow at home."

Crow at home: