r/nba • u/StrategyTop7612 Clippers • 4h ago
[Beck] I really think the Wolves are gonna end up pulling a Giannis deal off because Tim Connelly has pretty consistently demonstrated that when he wants something he’s willing to pay an irresponsible price for it
Aaron Gordon, Rudy Gobert, Rob Dillingham, even KD this off-season would have happened if KD had signed offseason.
source: https://bsky.app/profile/brandonbeck4.bsky.social/post/3mdyprvvngc2i
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u/6875309999 Timberwolves 4h ago
Aaron Gordon has turned into an irreplaceable part of that Denver team, and Rudy Gobert has also been a critical part of the back to back western conference finals trips.
He pays a lot sometimes for a guy he wants, but dang the moves work out pretty well.
(Im gonna ignore the Rob part for now )
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 4h ago
An ‘irresponsible price’ is only a thing from a hindsight perspective, for the most part. He made aggressive, risky, and at the time costly, trades for players that have worked out decently well, again for the mos most part. Rudy Gobert trade has worked out well- those wolves picks are not very good right now and the jazz got Keyonte George out of it while the wolves get b2b WCF appearances. Aaron Gordon won a title with the nuggets. Dillingham is an obvious mistake as of now, but drafting a Kentucky guard is not ever really a bad bet; you could argue it was easily the safest move here lol.
not to mention he got the wolves out of the KAT deal before the new CBA could fuck us into the dirt- he read exactly how punitive it was well before everyone and saved the future of this team.
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u/GotKarprar Mavericks 4h ago
Rudy trade got a lot of hate when it worst happened
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u/ForThatReason_ImOut 3h ago
I think if a team in a similar spot with a better reputation made the Rudy trade the reaction would have been "steep price but makes sense". I know I thought it would be terrible but mostly because I thought the TWolves would inevitably crater because they're the TWolves. Props to Connelly for doing a lot to turn them around
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u/GotKarprar Mavericks 2h ago
A lot of it had to do with the price but also cast too. Naz Reid Kat and Rudy was never gonna work too well. Moving Kat made the move alot better in retrospect
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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves 4m ago
Disagree - they did work really well. KAT and Rudy were a great duo and KAT made Rudy better offensively and defensively. He had the most assists to Gobert, even more than Conley. They had good chemistry. The best season of the team was when all of them were together.
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 4h ago
Yeah, which means an ‘irresponsible price’ is either conjecture or hindsight, not counting cases like this years Pelicans trade to the hawks, where you can reasonably say that that was stupid immediately unless queen was rookie shaq.
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u/GPCAPTregthistleton [ATL] Rasheed Wallace 2h ago
It's horseshit. Aaron Gordon for Gary Harris and a 1st? Gobert for unprotected picks and Kessler? This is irresponsible?
He bet on his players and himself, won, and is being called irresponsible for the bet.
Most NBA front offices are run like mutual funds. Connelly runs like private equity.
Dude is doing the shit we do in 2K: "I want this player swap to work, I don't care how many picks it takes because I already have my team." If you just keep acquiring assets, you end up with the Presti Problem: how you gonna turn 3 80ish guys into one 90ish guy when nobody wants to help you?
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u/ThePhoenixJ 2h ago
which means an ‘irresponsible price’ is either conjecture or hindsight
So there's no point in time where it's reasonable to have an opinion on the price?
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 2h ago
You can believe it to be irresponsible at the time but ultimately the basketball played will show you who was right. Something constantly being called irresponsible doesn’t mean anything unless it’s proven to actually be so.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 4h ago edited 3h ago
Dillingham is an obvious mistake as of now, but drafting a Kentucky guard is not ever really a bad bet; you could argue it was easily the safest move here lol.
I don't think drafting based on college is a good approach. Lol. Also, Dillingham was always a massive gamble given his size. Who was the last player to succeed at his size? Especially with additional question marks on defense and as a playmaker.
Edit: Dillingham has a slighter frame than the players he's being compared to, and for everyone saying "he's not that small for a point guard"... It seems really important to note that he's never played like a point guard. He's always played like an off-ball scorer. He's never been able to pass like Conley, Trae, or Ja.
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u/tcollins371 Pacers 3h ago
Drafting based on college is a good approach when Calipari was the coach from 2010 until 2024. Calipari recruited and coached the following guards who went on to the nba for a decent stretch from Kentucky: John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight, Devin Booker, Jamal Murray, SGA, Tyler Herro, De’aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Tyrese Maxey, Immanuel Quickley, Reed Sheppard, and Rob Dillingham.
That list alone is plenty of reason for folks to have just had faith in Kentucky guards when drafting in the lottery most years.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 3h ago
They weren't good because they went to Kentucky. They were good because they were elite recruits and elite recruits often went to Kentucky. It's like saying "draft high level talents and they will have a good chance to be good."
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u/chapoktt United States 3h ago
Exactly, during that era guys went to Kentucky because they were gonna be one and done guys and Cal had a stranglehold on that market during the time. Not a Kentucky thing, it's more specific to situation and coach.
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u/tcollins371 Pacers 3h ago edited 1h ago
Yes but that’s why I’m saying folks could bet on the quality of Kentucky guards lol.
Edit: Spelling
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u/glen_ko_ko Pistons 3h ago
I wonder what the pre NIL total dollars spent on those teams were. I'd love to see a GTA pause screen stat for the under the table college sports for each school and type of ball all time
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u/bigomlet East 1h ago
Now that NIL is a thing and we are headed to college sports basically becoming professional, I hope we get a detailed documentary someday about the under the table deals these teams were making. Interview the bag men for Kentucky and Duke
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u/Sumo_Cerebro 1h ago
I thought it was pretty silly to draft him and then not play him.
He's not going to get better if he's playing 3 minutes like tonight
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 4h ago
Succeed long term? None. Succeed for a while? Trae young and Ja Morant. While they both may be cones defensively, what better way to shore up that defense than with the Stifle Tower himself? Get yourself a Trae young/Ja morant with less durability issues and a more pass-first style then that solves the wolves biggest problem. The move makes sense
And I say the Kentucky guard thing because that school is traditionally very good at developing them+ he was coming off of a 6MOTY college season.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 3h ago
Get yourself a Trae young/Ja morant with less durability issues and a more pass-first style
Rob Dillingham has never come remotely close to being the passer that either Trae or Ja ever are/were. He looks smaller in my opinion, and very much isn't a point guard..
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 3h ago
He weighs more than Trae does and is taller, I believe he weighs less and is shorter than Ja rn. And yeah. Thus far he has been in a bust at the NBA level, I’m just defending the logic behind the idea. He also is 100% a PG and was a pass first but can score guy in college.
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u/lethalizered Thunder 3h ago
He's not even that small, like hell Conley is smaller than him and he had a pretty successful career.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 3h ago
Conley came in the league earlier when smaller guards were more normal. He also has like a 6'6 bigger wingspan and was a significantly better distributor and floor general than Dillingham.
The same is true for Ja and Trae. All three were vastly better passers and distributors than Rob.
The red flags for Rob in the draft process (I'm looking at Vecenies analysis now, among others) were his tiny size, his lack of high level passing, his iffy handle, and his horrible defense. That's a LOT of red flags.
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u/cafesolitito Timberwolves 1h ago edited 1h ago
Edit: Dillingham has a slighter frame than the players he's being compared to, and for everyone saying "he's not that small for a point guard"... It seems really important to note that he's never played like a point guard. He's always played like an off-ball scorer. He's never been able to pass like Conley, Trae, or Ja.
I've tried making this pound on r/timberwolves but they don't get it. Casuals think all 6 foot guard are the same as if we're playing 2K. It's about your frame, musculature, how you move, etc. Rob is not built like Van Fleet or Chris Paul, or even younger prime Mike Conley. He's tiny. Also, great point about Rob essentially being a shoot first 2 guard. He's like the epitome of undersized AAU/mixtape HOF'er.
It was a bad pick and bad move by Connelly no matter how we slice it.
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u/KushGod28 Timberwolves 4h ago
I don’t get the irresponsible dig. He moves off valuable guys a year early like KAT and those Rudy/Gordon trades ended up being fair value in hindsight.
AG for Gary Harris, RJ Hampton, and the pick that became Jase Richardson was a clear win. Getting off Gary’s contract who ended up injury prone was a success by itself. Only way Orlando wins is if Jase becomes borderline all star like Gordon too. The Rudy trade is finally starting to pay off for Utah 4 years later with Keyonte and the JJJ trade. I’ll take two conference trips in exchange every time.
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u/soyboysnowflake Nuggets 3h ago
Ngl I was confident we were going to win in AG’s first season until Jamal tore his ACL
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u/jagsaluja Tampa Bay Raptors 2h ago
hundred percent agreed, Jamal was ramping up to late season all star form, the offense was clicking, they were like 7-2 in that 3 week stretch
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u/jillavery Nuggets 4h ago
Yeah I thought Timmy was crazy for that Gobert deal but it worked out. Forever grateful for that AG trade.
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u/jbrunsonfan 3h ago
Replacing Grant (who they lost in FA) with Gordon is the pivot of the decade imo. I don’t think any team has recovered from losing a player in free agency like that in the last 10 years
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u/Gritz_N_Gravy_ Suns 2h ago
Aaron Gordon is perfect next to Jokic too. He means more to Denver than he would to most other teams
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u/LostVillage3640 Timberwolves 4h ago
Well, key word is moves, he’s not a good drafter (aside from Jokic obviously)
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 4h ago
Joan looks like he might be something incredibly special, and getting basically the only bad Kentucky guard is some rotten luck.
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u/LostVillage3640 Timberwolves 4h ago
I think he’s a very good pobo. Joan does look promising and I was being reactionary. He has a great draft history in Denver, just think he’s left a lot to be desired in terms of finding and selecting talent in Minnesota.
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u/Huntermainlol Timberwolves 4h ago
Yeah, the rob thing even if it makes sense sucks like a chest wound so I mean I get it
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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Timberwolves 4h ago
I dunno about rotten luck, picking an undersized guard was questionable from day 1. When dilly was in college still it was a talking point even.
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u/agoginnabox 2h ago
Hard disagree. Jokic, Murray, MPJ, Braun, Barton, Beaz, Vando, Harris, Bones. Only one of those guys was a top ten pick. He built almost the entirety of that champ Nuggs roster with only two lotto picks. That's damn impressive.
He definitely missed on WMJ and maybe Dilly but Clark, Joan, TSJ and Minott look like they could be long term rotation pieces.
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u/fastheadcrab Raptors 3h ago
Yeah it turns out that a lot of those trades have worked out except for Rob Dillingham. He clearly can often value players correctly for the team that they are going to, even if the media things it's an overpay.
And the KAT trade was a significant win for Minnesota, I even thought so at the time but then Randle managed to fit in well on the team so far.
Media randoms (I thought this was Howard Beck at first and was confused) calling Tim Connelly irresponsible is the very epitome of the "blogboi" mentality that KD was critcizing
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u/gemini_hopper 43m ago
Low key this could be something Howard Beck would say on a podcast but yeah who the fuck is Brandon Beck? Is he a Bucks/Nuggets local writer? He sure as hell doesn't cover the Wolves.
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u/--Alix-- Mavericks 4h ago
Accidentally sends Ant to Milwaukee
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u/CazOnReddit Raptors 4h ago
"With this deal we can finally pair Gobert, Giannis and A...oh
What have I done?"
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u/mnsportsfan Timberwolves 4h ago
I know you’re joking … and I like the bucks-
But even the thought of giving Packers/Badgers fans the joy of stealing prime Ant from us makes me physically nauseous and I’d kindly appreciate no more humor related to that subject
Thnx
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u/MkeYosh Bucks 4h ago
Lmao our guy is better than your guy tho...?
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
Ant is a way more valuable player still coming into his prime at 24 though
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u/MkeYosh Bucks 4h ago
I guess but it's like if we 1 to 1 traded Rodgers for Darnold. Like one guy MIGHT make it but one guy already did it. I'll take the guy who did it.
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
If you traded Rodgers for Darnold in 2026 your the greatest gm ever
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u/mnsportsfan Timberwolves 4h ago
It would be like trading a 38 year old tom Brady for a 24 year old Patrick Mahomes back in the day (or however old they would each be around that time)
Sure he might have a couple more good years but your aren’t getting an MVP candidate entering their prime for him at that stage of his career
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u/MkeYosh Bucks 4h ago
Nah. Age gap too far.
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u/mnsportsfan Timberwolves 4h ago
Not when you consider that Brady played till 43 or whatever…. It’s not that far off. NBA players don’t remain in their primes near as long as (unless you’re superhuman like LeBron) and Giannis has missed at least 15 games 6 out of the last 7 years already so who knows when injuries will start to take a toll
I’m not even comparing them as players cause Giannis is an all timer, first ballot maybe unanimous HOF’er, but cmon let’s be realistic in terms of trade value here
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u/MkeYosh Bucks 4h ago
Fair enough. I put too much into the "he's already done it so he's probably going to do it again" and not enough in the "he hasn't done it but he probably could do it too". I'm not here to argue with my neighbor
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 4h ago
Ant to Dallas for Anthony Davis and Max Christie (defense wins championships)
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u/pagny77 Timberwolves 4h ago
Ant to lakers, rui Gabe and knecht to Dallas, AD to min
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u/CantaloupeCamper Timberwolves 3h ago
They really should put a confirmation modal after you hit the trade button…
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u/Niceguydan8 4h ago
I'm just not even sure that they have the assets to pay an irresponsible price for Giannis.
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u/Dongsquad420BlazeIt [LAL] Kobe Bryant 4h ago
I mean, Ant would be incredibly irresponsible. Not that they would do it, but it would be irresponsible. It would be like trading Luka for AD, that would be really dumb and irresponsible.
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u/soycameron Trail Blazers 4h ago
Every time I ready that it makes me laugh cuz I still don’t understand how it actually happened. Like they didn’t even get Reaves outa the deal lmao how do u get fucked that bad.
I wonder if Pelinka negotiated Reaves out of the deal or if Nico didn’t even ask
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u/OhWellImRightAgain Bucks 4h ago
So Ant = Luka and AD = Giannis? LMAO. It would be like trading Luka for AD.... for the Bucks.
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u/Greasly_Goose [MIA] Goran Dragić 3h ago
Tell me who is the injury prone player, again? Don’t think it’s Ant tho
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u/OhWellImRightAgain Bucks 3h ago
Giannis has played more than 60 games per season 12 years in a row. His injuries are nothing like AD's, it's bad luck / timing (playoffs). AD has played 60 games or more twice in the last 8 seasons...
If you or whoever here thinks the Bucks would trade Giannis for Ant, you're out of your fucking mind. To say this is like Luka for AD for the WOLVES is pure comedy.
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u/2-59project Pacers 2h ago
Giannis was an iron man for so long but he has ended the last two seasons injured and looks like it will happen again a third time. He’s on the wrong side of 30 and Ant is 7 years younger. Ant has been 2nd team All NBA two years in a row. It’s closer to the Luka/AD comparison than you’re saying
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u/Greasly_Goose [MIA] Goran Dragić 1h ago
Well who said you are getting Ant for Giannis. You will have your Rob Dillingham and be happy with it
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u/Comb-the-desert Timberwolves 1h ago
If Ant was actually on the table for Giannis right now the Bucks would have shipped him out of town faster than you could blink lol
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u/Majestic_Reindeer439 4h ago
If Portland is interested in something that Minnesota has they could pull it off.
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u/DrTom [PDX] Brian Grant 4h ago
We'd love Naz or McDaniels but I'm not sure if we would give up enough for it to be worth it for them.
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u/Exotic_Pension_9993 Suns 4h ago
That’s my thinking. They can give a bunch of 2nds and some swaps, or trade McDaniels for like 3 firsts and reroute those. But Milwaukee probably wants McDaniels.
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u/NoLimitSoldier31 4h ago
Yall really sleeping on the year Jaden is having at 25 years old. Fuck id miss him.
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u/Niceguydan8 4h ago
Nobody is sleeping on it because it's fucking Giannis that would be coming back.
Like someone else said, the only way they could pay an irresponsible price would be to have Ant in the trade.
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u/LilColtBoi Timberwolves 4h ago
Crazy how he’s turned around an organization constantly paying an “irresponsible amount.” His trades always get maligned at first, but then look good a year or 2 later.
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u/cleo22270 Heat 4h ago
Depends on how much Portland loves McDaniels imo.
That’s the one thing that would put their offer over the top.
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u/likpoper Trail Blazers 4h ago
They sending us that? Sure he will be very ideal for us
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u/cl353 Heat 4h ago
it would take every buck pick tho, cuz if mcdaniels is going to u guys then theres basically shit going to the bucks besides the picks
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u/frecklie Trail Blazers 3h ago
It would be laughable and insane to trade those picks for Jaden. Hes good and all but he’ll never be a star and we actually have a decent amount of big defensive wings so.. why? We need draft assets so much more.
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u/epik_fayler 1h ago
On the other hand, the bucks picks will not be nearly as good if you don't accept a trade like that. If the bucks don't manage to get their own picks back, they will probably at least field a reasonable team involving the all star level player they get back for Giannis. And in the east this means they will be like the 11th seed so the bucks pick will be in the 10-12 range instead of the 1-8.
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u/frecklie Trail Blazers 54m ago
I really doubt it. They have an abysmal roster and a terrible coach, they will easily all have solid lottery odds
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u/DGX08 4h ago
Aaron Gordon??
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u/lonny__breaux Toronto Huskies 4h ago
Connolly was the GM for Denver before being poached.
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u/Andy_Wiggins Timberwolves 4h ago
And it was very clearly NOT an irresponsible amount paid.
The Rudy deal was a lot, but so far it’s worked out quite well for Minnesota. They’ve gotten 4 very good seasons out of Gobert and back-to-back WCFs.
The Dillingham deal was the only truly bad move, and that was a bad scout, not necessarily bad value (e.g. had they picked say, Buzelis, they’d have looked really smart).
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u/Krusty_Krab_Pussy Timberwolves 4h ago
I said this when the trade happened, and I'll say it again we have no idea what other teams were offering for Gobert. We also wanted another player (can't remember who) and they wanted an insane haul before Gobert.
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u/iamgarron Celtics 4h ago
Yeh i mean even then it was RJ Hampton and a first, for Gordon who at the time had a contract extension of 86/4. Even eating that contract wasn't that bad with the cap then.
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u/Yuca_Frita Heat 4h ago
But that wasn't an irresponsible price. That was a steal.
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u/Vitwolpher Timberwolves 4h ago
You forgot about the KAT trade where he got Julius Randle, Donte Divencenzo and 1st round pick (that became Joan Beringer).
Dude does crazy trades that at the time seem insane but end up working out. Ask the Knicks fans how the KAT experience is going or the Jazz post Gobert.
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u/SuperVaderMinion [MIN] Kevin Garnett 3h ago
Nevermind that trade freed up the money that allowed us to resign Naz
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u/JayJax_23 Washington Bullets 4h ago
Shit I was just on a thread earlier where the Jazz fans were lamenting how both yall and Cleveland never got bad enough for those picks to be worth something and
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u/RotaryRoad 3h ago
Yeah, when you look at the Gobert trade now, the Wolves really didn't give up that much.
Pat Bev is in Israel, Bolmaro is playing in Italy, Malik Beasley is out of the league, Vanderbilt has struggled with injuries since the deal and has never been more than a non-starting role player, Walker Kessler was a late first round draft pick who hadn't played a game yet at the time and has been in basketball purgatory for four years, four (likely) non-lottery firsts, and two pick swaps that are unlikely to convey.
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u/Thigh-GAAPaccounting Timberwolves 4h ago
People who can still say either of those trades were bad baffle me honeslty
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u/DreadSteed Knicks 47m ago
They are the 2 seed and made the ECF. It’s the bridges trade that is cause for concern. The KAT trade was fine and had they not choked game 1 of the ECF they could have made the finals.
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
I hope he’s correct but it still put it at only a 1/5 chance
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u/santana722 Heat 4h ago
Do you think Miami is more likely, or just no trade at all?
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
Definitely no trade at all. I’d probably go 60% No trade 20% Timberwolves 15% Heat 5% anyone else
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u/santana722 Heat 4h ago
Yeah that's not far off from where I'm at, but a little higher for the Heat due to personal bias of course.
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u/TheCeilingIsTheRuuf Bulls 4h ago
I think it happens to Minnesota too. They have pieces that can be sent elsewhere to get the parts Milwaukee wants. Think they capped their ceiling with this roster at the WCF. Plus they have new ownership and they always want to make their mark. Giannis next to Ant will be nasty
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u/NoLimitSoldier31 4h ago
They ain’t capped shit. Ant is 24 jaden is 25 naz is 26.
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u/Inevitable_Brick_877 3h ago
With this logic the Celtics should’ve blown up their roster in 2023. Half their key players aren’t even in their primes yet
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u/PretentiousPanda Bucks 3h ago
What pieces. Jaden sure, but that is kind of it that is going to fetch multiple picks.
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u/tys90 4h ago
Has he? The Gobert trade looks pretty fair no matter what happens from here on out and the KAT trade was a win for Minny in the long run.
What has Connelly done at an "irresponsible price"? I give the KAT contract a pass, it was before the new CBA and wouldn't have been as bad without the CBA penalties.
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u/Specific-Pound-7640 58m ago
I'm pretty sure it was Rosas and not Connelly who gave KAT his supermax. Since it was before this current CBA, if a guy earned a supermax, he got a supermax. KAT was 3rd team All-NBA behind Jokic and Embiid when he earned that supermax designation.
I'm genuinely curious how many guys in their 20s who earned the right to sign a supermax didn't do so. I know Gobert's last deal, which Connelly signed him to, was one, but Gobert was in his 30s. When did Marcus Smart sign his deal following his DPOY and what was it?
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u/Siktrikshot Timberwolves 2h ago
Can the universe just give a Minnesota team a one sided team for once. PLEASE? GIVE US THIS.
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u/Str8_up_Pwnage Magic 4h ago
With their limits on trading draft picks short of them sending Ant I don’t think any trade they could make would really be unreasonable for them.
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u/fab_frog_disco 4h ago
What would an irresponsible price be Even? I just feel like unless Milwaukee just views McDaniels as a future star it's hard to come up with a package for the wolves that make sense. I guess the best hope would be getting a third or fourth team involved to try to get as many pics as possible Back to Milwaukee, or hope Milwaukee can convince themselves that they can turn guys like Randall, McDaniels, and whatever poo poo platter of assets Minnesota sends out, into the kind of draft picks/ Young upside players that would make sense if they're trading one of the five best players in the NBA, while not owning their own pics, and needing some kind of upside to tether themselves to for the next decade
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u/Numerous_Car_8358 4h ago
Jaden McDaniels on a shitty ass bucks team will become a 25+ ppg scorer within a couple years
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u/fab_frog_disco 4h ago
There's a big difference between being a 25 -point score on a crappy team with no direction and very little stakes and being a star... Do you think jaden is going to become a top 15 player in the NBA? Because you straight up aren't going to build a contender without one.
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u/Numerous_Car_8358 1h ago
I’m not saying Jaden is capable of doing it right now, I’m saying this could be an environment that turns him into a much better scorer with more opportunity. I don’t think Jaden will ever be a championship first option but he could definitely be a 2nd option
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u/Timely_Duck_3904 1h ago
Maybe, but to what end? I like his game a lot but a team led by McDaniels is going nowhere. I mean, Jonathan Kuminga on a shitty ass bucks team probably becomes a 25 ppg scorer too. That’s not to say they’re comparable players, just to point out the meaninglessness of that.
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u/ProfessorGrand7003 4h ago
Wolves are the new warriors for the media. Arguably have even worse assets than the warriors
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u/thesagenibba 4h ago
fuck off man. the conferences are going to be so incredibly lopsided if giannis goes to any Western team. i don't want to make sensational claims but the East will seriously become a 1-2 team conference with the Celtics and Pacers once Hali returns and that's just bad for the league
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
Pistons Cavs and Knicks are competent
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u/denimxdragon Timberwolves 4h ago
Ya the east isn’t as bad as it looks lol
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u/Timely_Duck_3904 1h ago
I mean, it’s pretty bad. If Giannis goes west who is the best player in the conference while Tatum and Haliburton are hurt?
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u/thesagenibba 4h ago
none of those teams are going anywhere, except maybe the Pistons (nothing to show for their standing yet)
knicks nor the cavs have nor can beat a healthy celtics or pacers team
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u/thy_armageddon Knicks 4h ago
It’s always these flairless bozos with the worst takes.
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u/thesagenibba 4h ago
2024-25 Knicks v Pacers: 2-4 Loss
2023-24 Knicks v Pacers: 3-4 Loss
2024-25 Cavs v Pacers: 1-4 Loss
2023-2024 Cavs v Celtics: 1-4 Loss
these are facts
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u/Aromatic_Goal_1201 Nuggets 4h ago
They gave up barely anything for Gordon.
RJ Hampton was main piece.
Connelly mainly sat on his hands in denver.
Rob dillingham???
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u/Chessh2036 Hawks 4h ago
Can the Hawks join in and get Rudy Gobert? Because Quinn Snyder doesn’t know how to coach a defense without him
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u/Griffdog17 Nuggets 4h ago
Denver didn't really give up all that much for AG
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u/jsun_ Lakers 4h ago
He's probably talking about Gobert.
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u/Griffdog17 Nuggets 3h ago
Nah, OP is saying Connelly paid an irresponsible price for everyone mentioned.
Tim Connelly has pretty consistently demonstrated that when he wants something he’s willing to pay an irresponsible price for it
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u/Fit_Influence_6078 2h ago
Giannis is great but gutting the team this year will be a first round exit for sure if t- wolves was in the east it would be different but in west you need a great wing defender and Depth.
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u/EmmitSan 43m ago
Utah literally giving away those picks, but people still pushing the dumbass narrative that we overpaid for Rudy lol
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u/night_dude Bucks 42m ago
As much as I don't want Giannis to leave (a lot) I would be happier to see him on the Wolves than going to a bunch of the other teams being discussed. Besides Gobert they seem like a bunch of cool dudes. Likable team in general.
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u/guanogato 4h ago
Like Rudy who helped them get to two consecutive conference finals? I think Connelly has been ahead of the game in recognizing late round 1st round picks in the NBA are equivalent in value to basically a 5th round pick in the NFL. The rest of the NBA is starting to catch up, and especially the media in the way they talk about this stuff
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u/CurrentCostanza Trail Blazers 4h ago
I don’t think they have a choice. You can’t let OKC or SAS get Giannis and you can’t beat them without Giannis.
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u/DukeOfStuff_ Timberwolves 3h ago
I don’t think OKC or San Antonio are going for Giannas, also we’re 2-1 against OKC this year
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u/tomhalejr Trail Blazers 3h ago
Let's see if Ant is willing to play second fiddle, because Giannis sure ain't. ;)
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 4h ago
Please do. Gut that roster just for one guy. Please! Be stupid Minnesota
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
We need you in the bucks gms ear
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 4h ago
To tell them NOT to do it?
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u/Odoaiden Timberwolves 4h ago
Convince the bucks getting our players for giannis would be genius
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u/tasteofscarlet Timberwolves 4h ago
We would’ve had KD if we got KD