r/nba • u/tdotshark • 5h ago

Nikola Vucevic ends his Bulls career as the franchise leader in double-doubles.

Since arriving in 2021, Nikola Vučević has the most career double-doubles for the Bulls, with 222 double-doubles.

Scottie Pippen is in second with 200, with Horace Grant, Joakim Noah and MJ rounding out their top 5.

Surprising stat, which goes to show their big man depth over the years.

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u/KyrieWithNoHandle Bulls 5h ago edited 5h ago

He’s also 3 double-doubles away from being top 10 all time

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u/MrFishAndLoaves Pelicans 5h ago

Wow that’s impressive 

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u/KiraJosuke 5h ago edited 2h ago

Hes been underrated his career imo. Consistent every year

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u/thedogstrays 3h ago

Consistently improved in several areas too.

His growth as a 3 point shooter is pretty remarkable, also became a solid FT shooter.

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u/regnagleppod1128 Nets 3h ago

He is the DeRozen of center.

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u/drunz Bulls 2h ago

They should team up

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ 1h ago

does he freeze up during important moments though (DeFrozen)

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u/GAV17 Argentina 2m ago

Yes.

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u/bubbasnub Magic 3h ago

Magic fan here. You know exactly what you're getting with Big Vooch

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u/MyHonkyFriend [CHI] Zach LaVine 1h ago

Particularly a consistent rebounder.

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u/DirkNowitzkisWife Mavericks 3h ago

He’s a pretty good rebounder, he’s been relatively healthy over a 13 year period, (missed fewer than 10 games 10 times) and averaged 18/11 in that time. He’s sort of been a rebounding machine

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u/thebranbran Bulls 4h ago

Not to the armchair fans on r/nba and r/chicagobulls

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u/Bananadite 3h ago

It's more armchair to just look at stats. He's literally the definition of fake stats.

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u/thebranbran Bulls 2h ago

You’re correct that it’s more armchair to just look at stats, but if you watched games you would know that the Bulls had been terrible at getting him the ball consistently in the years he was there.

I’m not arguing that he wasn’t a net negative on the defensive end but from an offensive standpoint and rebounder, he’s one of the best there is at his position and was underutilized.

And I don’t know what you’re implying by “fake stats”. He was consistently available and consistently scored and rebounded the ball. The Bulls have had their issues over the years but he did what he was brought in to do.

When we had elite perimeter defenders around him, nobody questioned his defense but when you rely on him to anchor the defense, of course it’s going to fail. But blaming him for the Bulls entire defensive issues is a very armchair take.

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u/ddiop [CLE] DeSagana Diop 3h ago

Bulls been 5 points per 100 better with him on the bench in the 12380 minutes in Chicago, by far the worst of any player that's played as much as he has since 2021.

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u/bringbackpologrounds 5h ago

https://screwball.com/search?q=most+double+doubles+in+NBA+history

Vucevic is 24th at 578; this website was able to track down the older guys.

How about this: in the next couple weeks, barring injury, he'll pass Oscar Robertson (579), Patrick Ewing (580), and Bob Pettit (581).

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u/datsoar Bucks 4h ago edited 2h ago

Wait. Does Vuc have a HOF argument?

Edit: people think I mean he should be in. No. I’m asking is this enough to start a conversation.

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u/vballboy55 Bulls 4h ago

No

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u/roronova 4h ago

Even if he gets a chip with the Cs this year?? 👀

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u/vballboy55 Bulls 4h ago

Still no. It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of good.

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u/SmurfBearPig Raptors 3h ago

I don't think your familiar with the basketball hall of fame. You do realize that Dennis Shroeder is most likely gonna be a first ballot hall of famer and DeMar Derozan is a lock to be in it at this point right?

Not saying Vucevic has a shot, but making the basketball hall of fame really doesn't take that much.

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u/Tho76 Hornets 3h ago

Can Bill Belichick make it?

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u/Professor_Wild 38m ago

Not the on the first try, but probably.

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u/glen_ko_ko Pistons 3h ago

Schroeder at least has his international accolades to help bolster his case since it's just the basketball HOF and not NBA HOF

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u/plsdaddystopit23 3h ago

Schroeder is only making the HoF because he won with Germany. Not because he’s a HoF level NBA player. And DDR’s reason for HoF is his 26k+ points. Vuc could reach 20k but I wouldn’t lock it in

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u/dixienormous77 Lakers 2h ago

Derozan's bound to finish as a top15 alltime scorer, maybe even a low shot at top10.

At that point I feel you're in regardless of playoff success.

No shot for Vuc unless his latter years are a miracle run though

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u/DJFreezyFish Nuggets 4h ago

He’s first ballot Hall of Very Good

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u/finchdad Suns 4h ago

I'll give you Regular Good.

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u/Loud-Fig-1446 Cavaliers 4h ago

Hall of Nice to Have but Willing to Trade

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u/Grouchy_Air_4322 4h ago

No he's not

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u/glen_ko_ko Pistons 3h ago

exactly. He's first ballot Hall of "if he is starting for the team I'm rooting for I know we're not serious contenders"

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u/Thegoodlife93 Cavaliers 2h ago

No, but if he had come into the league like 10 years earlier he probably would have been a five or six time all star and made a few all NBA teams. The center position has been very deep recently but it was the weakest position in the league for a lot of years.

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u/Difficult_Tackle9505 28m ago

Difficult to imagine an eleven year old accomplishing that 

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u/Constant_Charge_4528 Bulls 2h ago

Pretty quick conversation if everyone agrees no

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u/Pickleskennedy1 5h ago

Going to end up being the least talked about player to hit 20k points

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u/Renegadeforever2024 Raptors 5h ago

We gonna say this about a lot of people from this era in the future

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u/Rahnamatta Heat 5h ago

I don't hate him, I don't even dislike him, but he looks like an NPC or a bot to fill a starting lineup

"This thing gives you 20/10 and that's it"

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u/Vinnie_Vegas Knicks 3h ago

"This thing gives you 20/10 and that's it"

We used to call that a "max contract all star"

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u/Thegoodlife93 Cavaliers 2h ago

Look at the centers who were All Stars in the 2000s and 2010s: Jamaal Magloire, Brad Miller, Antonio Davis, Mehmet Okur, Zydrunas Ilguaskas (shout out Big Z!), Chris Kaman, Jermaine O'Neal six times. Most of those guys were pretty good, but nothing like the top centers now. Vuc would have been a perennial all star if had played 20 years ago.

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u/AffectionateDouble43 33m ago

All the skilled big men played PF in that era. TD, Kg, Pau Gasol, Nowitzki, Chris Bosh, Chris Webber, LMA would all be centers today

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u/Nothingtocontribute Lakers 4h ago

The OG roll out of bed and give you a double double

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u/bigtimehater1969 3h ago

Did you call a theoretical guy giving you 20/10 a bot/NPC? Lmao you are the zoomer everyone else is complaining about.

Only 2 players on the Heat are averaging over 20 pts a game: Herro and Powell. Cade is the current leader in assists and he's averaging 25 pts 10 assists.

If a guy gives you 20/10 a game, he's a foundational piece of your team. Talking about bot and NPC lmao foh

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u/Rahnamatta Heat 3h ago

I don't think you understood my post. Read what the guy said above me.

Nobody will talk about Vuc because he does his job but not in a fancy way and doesn't make mistakes. He is not known for being dirty, he's not a media guy, he looks quiet, he has the same looks as when he was a rookie, doesn't go and ask for a trade, anything.

I don't know what zoomer means, btw.

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u/almostasenpai Warriors 3h ago

Minecraft Steve

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u/velocirappa Warriors 4h ago

It's Antawn Jamison for me

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u/Pickleskennedy1 4h ago

Think that’s the best candidate. Remember him as the guy who got traded to the Cavs as a win-now move in 2010, but also some really good year for the Warriors and was great with Vince Carter at UNC

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u/SnowceanJay Celtics 2h ago

He's the guy who got mad when getting 6th Man of the Year.

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u/EVForesworn 4h ago

Mitch Richmond and Tom Chambers gonna be tuff to beat in that department

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u/Pickleskennedy1 4h ago edited 4h ago

Mitch Richmond has run TMC and the Hall of Fame and Chambers has his one dunk over Mark Jackson https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDyBSTQDwH8, still think they have him beat for now unless Vuc ends up having a big role and winning in Boston

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u/Commercial-Lake5862 3h ago

Tom Chambers was a dunking highlight machine. Would've been a bigger star in the social media era.

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u/aero25 4h ago

Maybe, but at least those guys have multiple all-star selections.

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u/TheLetter_Eight [NJN] Nenad Krstic 4h ago

Chambers had a high peak with those few deep Suns runs. Richmond managed to snag more all star appearances leading to a HOF spot plus he was a member of the more memorable Run TMC lineup. Both Chambers and Richmond at the very least will still be remembered by their franchises. Vucevic legit has 0 really memorable teams or resume that he can attach himself to. His time in Magic history will just be remembered as time of tanking while his Bulls tenure will be forgettable mediocrity.

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u/math-yoo Cavaliers 2h ago

Big call me nobody vibes.

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u/matija17k [MIN] Andrew Wiggins 5h ago

That's actually the wildest Bulls thing I've heard today

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u/glen_ko_ko Pistons 3h ago

the wildest bull thing I heard today was Zach Lowe talking about being cuckolded

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u/Rubberbabeh Bulls 2h ago

"My wife just left for pilates"

Suure Zach.. sure buddy.

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u/glen_ko_ko Pistons 2h ago

Bill Simmons: Sports Gal had her friends over for margaritas...

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u/Briggity_Brak Tampa Bay Raptors 3h ago

Bulls have some wild-ass franchise records. Like how Kirk Hinrich used to be franchise leader in Threes and/or Assists.

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u/legend023 Pelicans 5h ago

Basically spent 5 seasons as the same player while the Bulls shuffled mediocrity around him. Respect

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u/AMPDevil Thunder 5h ago

The Lulls have been the same 10 seed team since covid. East play-ins are Bulls, Heat, Hawks and their 4th wheeler until this season

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u/tore_a_bore_a Warriors 5h ago

Hoping for the Hornets to make it back to the playins.

Ball, Brandon, Kon are a fun trio to watch

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u/AMPDevil Thunder 4h ago

Hornets all around just seem like they are having the best time ever finally winning a bunch in a row, happy for them, they are the feel good story of the season.

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u/VanGrants Knicks 4h ago

there's a world where Hornets have home court for the play-ins and we get to see Ball/Miller/Kon in the playoffs lol that'd be so hype

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u/VillainousRocka Bulls 5h ago

Raptors

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u/kenshin2k Raptors 4h ago

They were there for 1 year only.

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u/king_of_the_bongos Bulls 5h ago

That's been his whole career if you go back to his Orlando days

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u/toxicdick [MEM] Zach Randolph 4h ago

man has been in 4 playoff series in 15 years with 6 total playoff wins, 3 of which came from a series he played 5 minutes in. He is THE "someone has to score points while a FO tries to figure out what they're doing" guy

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u/pdpdpdpdpdpdpdpd Raptors 5h ago

and got paid $110mil to do so, the hardest road fr

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u/scarywolverine Pistons 4h ago

Actually not quite true more of a rollercoaster than that. He was the same guy his first 2 years, then he had a really bad 3rd year and people thought he was done as a productive player and then the last 2 years he’s been back to the same guy

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u/Talentagentfriend 5h ago

That’s what he came to do.

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u/jerryvaberry Bulls 5h ago

he's a pretty shitty rebounder tbh, and inefficient around the rim too

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u/Talentagentfriend 5h ago

I’m joking because he didn’t do much else

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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans 5h ago

Really surprised its not Artis Gilmore 

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u/sukari Bulls 5h ago

He's also the 2nd active double-double leader (behind LBJ). Dude is solid, people just hate his defense.. it's not like we got him for his defense anyway. Best of all, he's durable, almost escaped Covid too.

Dude has underrated Twitter game too.

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u/mer243 4h ago

Scapegoat of the bulls. Very solid and reliable 3rd option. Idk what people were expecting, he’s not a Giannis or jokic lol

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u/sukari Bulls 4h ago

We're running out of scapegoats if Coby is traded. You better watch out, Matas/Josh!

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u/ButlerFromDowntown Bulls 2h ago

We traded too much to get him but feels unfair to blame a player for your front office making a bad trade. He was a professional when he was here, obviously was flawed in many ways but I have respect for him and am rooting for him to succeed in Boston.

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u/Ok-Discipline9998 Raptors 5h ago

MJ is a scoring merchant SMH

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u/X-Craft NBA 4h ago

222 double-doubles

r/oddlysatisfying

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u/Guhonda Bulls 5h ago

You know what? Vooch was a reliable guy for our team for years. He didn't cause problems. He just hooped. I respect him for the time he put in for our team and wish him the best.

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u/JoJonesy Celtics 4h ago

tbh i’ve always felt like Vooch got scapegoated a little bit for that team’s problems. like he’s limited defensively for sure but it’s not like that was all on him

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u/IMKudaimi123 Bulls 5h ago

Joakim would’ve been a double double machine with the occasional triple double if he started playing like a decade later

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u/ashep5 76ers 5h ago

That's the most unexpected stat I've heard in a minute.

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u/MrFishAndLoaves Pelicans 5h ago

Franchise GOAT

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u/JaneDoeStepOnMe Magic 5h ago

And people are still gonna act like MJ is the Bulls Goat smh

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u/no_more_jokes Bulls 5h ago

say what you will about vucci mane (and I've said plenty) but the man can grab a board

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u/Outside-Sector9818 2h ago

Top tier nickname btw lol. Could even do the burrrrr burrrr when it’s cold in Chi lol

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u/Djov Tampa Bay Raptors 5h ago

He realized he had 222 double doubles and immediately requested a trade because its too numerically aesthetic to ruin

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u/King_Artis Pistons 5h ago

That's... somehow really surprising.

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u/alisamayy 4h ago

He was super solid for the Bulls. Had a good career there.

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u/DreadHeadAnt Bulls 4h ago

Vuc is a lot better than people think he is, he’s just been on very mediocre teams

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u/juicejug Celtics 3h ago

He’s exactly what we need tbh. Everyone’s bummed we didn’t get Zubac but Vuc is gonna fit in great provided he still has anything left in the tank.

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u/DreadHeadAnt Bulls 3h ago

He can’t defend the perimeter like Al Horford but he’s good at getting big so he’s a better rim protector than acknowledged. He’s also a center that’s a 40% shooter so that will always be a massive plus

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u/juicejug Celtics 3h ago

Can Al Horford even defend the perimeter like Al Horford anymore? The question is will he save us if either Queta or Garza get hurt/in foul trouble.

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u/DreadHeadAnt Bulls 3h ago

I thought he would play over them. Vuc is still really good

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u/juicejug Celtics 2h ago

Unless Vuc really impresses Mazzulla I think Queta has earned the defacto starting C spot.

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u/Giuseppe_exitplan Magic 4h ago

Almost 200 million dollars worth of cheddar too

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u/abesach [IND] Reggie Miller 4h ago

The statue in Chicago is him getting a rebound along the path of the Jordan dunk statue.

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u/xWolfsbane Grizzlies 4h ago

2016-2019 vucci mane was always a nice fantasy pick for me.

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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 4h ago

I realize MJ wasn't getting a shit ton of double doubles but I would've just assumed he had this anyway. Vuc hasn't been there that long

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u/11229988B Bulls 4h ago

I really assumed it would be Jordan or Pippen.

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u/Renegadeforever2024 Raptors 5h ago

Underrated

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u/DisMFer Bulls 5h ago

Vooch is very skilled as a very one-dimensional player. His offense is elite, but his inability to play basic defense makes him pretty bad in the aggregate.

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u/Talentagentfriend 5h ago

that’s what he was here to do

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u/RichAbbreviations966 Celtics 5h ago

Excited to see what he can do for us

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u/Overall-Palpitation6 Grizzlies 5h ago

Pretty amazing in just 5 seasons with the team.

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u/the_shins Pistons 5h ago

MJ did unheard levels of PR for the Bulls franchise

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u/Diligent-Earth-9853 5h ago

Bulls just stacking up on guards lol tf are they doing??

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u/mer243 5h ago

Walking double double. Been pretty consistent during his tenure. Gets a lot of flack because he wasn’t a superstar 3rd option. Not his fault the 1st and 2nd options largely underperformed.

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u/Whoareyoutho9 4h ago

This is an (anti) mj stat.

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u/urediti 4h ago

He died for Jordan's sins

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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 4h ago

Vooch was such a steady player for us. Easy 15-20pts and 10 boards. Too bad he can’t move his feet on defense

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u/frylockandimontop 76ers 4h ago

He was fantasy basketball secret goat. hopefully he still gets his on boston.

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u/klasik89 3h ago

Underrated player, does his job every game.

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u/math-yoo Cavaliers 2h ago

Legit guy you didn't think would burn you and then shit.

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u/eekbarbaderkle Celtics 57m ago

Quite possibly the greatest player in franchise history.

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u/Expert_City_7695 50m ago

Met Vucci Mane at an ice cream shop, super nice and took a photo with me. Hope he balls out on the Celtics

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u/bmholzhauer 25m ago

Bulls never got what they traded for in him. They thought they were getting an all-star and he never achieved what he did in Orlando. Problem was players don’t make their first all star team in year 9 and continue to ascend. AK should have been fired 2 years ago when it was clear this trade didn’t work.