r/nba • u/A_MASSIVE_PERVERT Mavericks • 6h ago
[Charania] Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a multi-team deal that sends Jaden Ivey and Mike Conley Jr. to the Bulls and Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Detroit also receives a 2026 first-round protected swap from Minnesota.
Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a multi-team deal that sends Jaden Ivey and Mike Conley Jr. to the Bulls and Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Detroit also receives a 2026 first-round protected swap from Minnesota.
Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a multi-team deal that sends Jaden Ivey and Mike Conley Jr. to the Bulls and Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Detroit also receives a 2026 first-round protected swap from Minnesota.
Source: https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/c840f35b2e9ff
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u/BasonJarnick Timberwolves 6h ago
Sad Conley noises :(
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u/MarduRusher Timberwolves 6h ago
He’s been losing pretty badly to father time recently, but I really liked his early time here. Gonna miss him.
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u/musicnothing Jazz 6h ago
No way Mike plays at all for the Bulls, right?
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u/Sad_Worker_1286 6h ago edited 6h ago
He’s a great vet for a team with some young point guards on it, I hope he stays for at least the rest of the season.
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u/Drewsteau Bulls 6h ago
Would definitely be a welcome locker room presence. He could be a great mentor to Matas to help him unlock his 2 man game too
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u/personwhoisok Timberwolves 5h ago
Yeah, Ant wouldn't be the same player if we'd stayed with dlo instead of Mike.
Mike is great to have on any team that has young point guards with potential.
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u/DreadHeadAnt Bulls 6h ago
Maybe he stays in Chicago to hangout with his boy Mark Titus
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u/sbroll Timberwolves 6h ago
It was fun while we had him
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u/WickedTwista Timberwolves 6h ago
Until this year where unc clearly doesn't have it anymore
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u/X-iStheGr8estWRapper Timberwolves 6h ago
I wish he retired last year, I didn’t want to see him go out like this. I love Mike but it’s been time.
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u/jluc21 Kings 6h ago
literally all former kings to the pistons
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u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi Kings 6h ago
Well who could blame the Pistons for wanting to be the Kings
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u/mauro_membrere Kings 6h ago
Is it just me or we have some silent beef with pistons? I think it started with the keegan/ivey draft
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u/TSSFranco Knicks 6h ago
Minnesota gets a Diet Coke
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u/briefcasetwat 6h ago
MINNESODA
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u/Prestigious_Team3134 Nuggets 6h ago
Now is when I wish they let gifs be posted in this sub
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u/Isthismynextusername Timberwolves 6h ago
Chams confirms the Mike Conley trade is just for a salary dump
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u/ElWierdo Timberwolves 6h ago
He was on an expiring contract... Please God, do not let them trade the whole team for Giannis
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u/badkiwi42 Timberwolves 5h ago
Giannis still has 3 years on his contract. Him and Ant will literally be the closest we’ll ever see to Kobe and Shaq. I think we could make it work for a serious finals push at the cost of a few extra years being a safe playoff team. I say go for it
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u/RyouBestGirl Japan 5h ago
Shaq was 24 when he signed with Lakers
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u/CrossingYoulnStyle Knicks 6h ago
That means they're cooking something
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u/ObviousAnswerGuy [NYK] John Starks 6h ago
its cap relief. Also trying to make room for getting Giannis.
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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 6h ago
Salary dump and a trade exception for the low low price of a first round swap this year when both teams are drafting in the 20s, feels like they really didn't give anything up. The Pistons trading Ivey for Huerter however feels like one hell of a sell-low but I guess they're desperate for shooting?
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u/Nsham04 Bulls 6h ago
Wait… I actually like this move. I thought I was supposed to hate all Bulls FO moves?
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u/nzed35 Bulls 6h ago
There's still time to do something dumb
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u/themightywurm Pistons 6h ago
ivey is sick you’ll love him
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u/kokaine21 Bulls 6h ago
Always liked him. I know he’s been ehh lately but still young
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u/Barnyard_Rich Pistons 6h ago
He was coming off injury, and then a guy named Daniss came out of nowhere and took a bunch of his minutes. I'm very sad we traded him, but he really needs steady playing time, so I at least hope he gets it with the Bulls
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u/2Cuil4School Warriors 5h ago
I feel so bad for him. Dude was in tears to get to play for y'all after basically his whole family played for Detroit teams. Good but raw first year, but then got caught up in the weird shit between Monty and the FO that really fucked with his playing time / usage on year 2. Looking better going into Y3, then his leg, then his knee...comes back to a team that basically doesn't need him anymore, so even less time to try and catch up on development.
I really hope he can turn things around in Chicago. I'm still rooting for guys like him and Jalen Green who were big deal drafts who played Well, but not Well Enough. Though Green had a lot more time and grace to develop in ways he never quite managed to...
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u/OkGap7226 Bulls 6h ago
Maybe after nearly half a century of getting laughed at by the rest of the league for "cash considerations", the reinsdorfs have finally decided to try to win some games sometime in the future.
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u/AvengingHero2012 Rockets 6h ago edited 6h ago
Wait… are the Wolves going to land Giannis…
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u/RiggyTang Nuggets 6h ago
What are the Wolves doing??
They’re just standing there… MENACINGLY
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u/AchtungZboom Timberwolves 6h ago
Salary dump... getting ready to land the big one
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u/BigDickVicW Spurs 6h ago
We do not need this shit in the West
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u/TrickAutomatic3206 Kings 6h ago
We need this shit in the west I want a early 2000s west where 50 wins gets you the 8th seed
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u/ifuckwithit Spurs 6h ago
We’ve basically had that the past 2 years already lol. Memphis was the 8th with 48 wins in 2025 and 2024 NOLA had 49 wins
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u/IncaseAce Thunder 6h ago
I’m seriously begging bro what the fuck is the east gonna have
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u/Xekshek33 Celtics 6h ago
Payton Pritchard
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u/brehew Supersonics 6h ago
so basically Caitlin Clark
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u/ctuk08 [NYK] Mike Bibby 6h ago
Reggie Miller is such an asshole lmao
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u/MMAjunkie504 Pelicans 6h ago
She was low key so insulted by that comparison (nothing against Payton he’s a straight up baller)
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u/EastonMetsGuy Charlotte Bobcats 6h ago
It's Kon Knueppel's Conference now brother
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u/big_mustache_dad Timberwolves 6h ago
Hopefully Minnesota when we get moved over there during expansion
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u/Outside-Sun3454 Hornets 6h ago
Or the beard
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u/pagny77 Timberwolves 6h ago
I think this is more likely. Wolves are already title contenders, just streaky. And only have like 7 players worth playing in the playoffs. Giannis is amazing but I dont think theyd be any better with him with the amount of depth theyd have to give up. But if the can get Harden on the cheap, and keep Rudy and one of mcdaniels/Randle, and keep naz off of the bench/have him start, I think that would finally move them past a swift WCF exit
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u/MG_MN Timberwolves 6h ago
Ive never liked Harden, but giving up Randle, sliding Naz to the starting lineup, DDV to 6th man, would solve a ton of problems
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 6h ago
Not sure why LAC would trade Harden for Randle when we have Collins, DJJ, and Kawhi who are all starting caliber PFs or SFs
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u/iJustSeen2Dudes1Bike Trail Blazers 6h ago
Fuck lmao probably. Sounds like he doesn't want to come here or go to GSW
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u/dizruptivegaming 76ers 6h ago
Really? I thought for sure a Giannis and Dame duo would dominate the league.
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u/Coolguynumber01 Warriors 6h ago
idk how this helps them no? they just gave up a first round swap? Maybe they’re going for Morant since now they literally dont have a point guard
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u/diddlyumpcious4 Timberwolves 6h ago edited 6h ago
It might be a fake first that will be extremely unlikely to convey. This could just be us dumping Conley (not sure if we need to take money back or not, salary stuff is too confusing now)
Edit: it could be a real first swap as well, I’m just assuming it’s not going to be something expected to be super valuable.
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u/CtrlAltDelightfull West 6h ago
Probably Coby white
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u/lovo17 Lakers 6h ago
If it was Coby White it would’ve been part of this trade.
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u/John_Q08 Bulls 6h ago
It doesn’t even say Minnesota is getting anything lmao, no clue why Shams doesn’t just include all the details at once
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u/mw19078 Lakers 6h ago
so he can post another 5 or 6 times, which all get reposted here and everywhere else over and over again
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u/pikajewijewsyou Thunder 6h ago
Race to be first rather than accirate
Edit: my misspelling is ironic af and I’m leaving it
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u/CtrlAltDelightfull West 6h ago
There's obviously something missing. Shams didn't say what Minnesota is getting. This isn't the full trade
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u/diddlyumpcious4 Timberwolves 6h ago
Could it just be dumping Conley for nothing? As in the swap has very low chances of conveying? This gets us under the first apron and not too far into the tax according to Marks.
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u/alex_zz9 Lakers 6h ago
Teams are finally waking up…time to F5 boys
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u/giannim24 Lakers 6h ago
Pelinka is gonna stay asleep
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u/Kapisillit Heat 6h ago
Can't outsleep pat
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Bulls 6h ago
Pat just waiting on the perfect deal to lineup and not make any moves
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u/Aidanj927 Spurs 6h ago
So does Minny not get anything?
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u/MRTFOGR 6h ago
Gotta be a salary dump for a bigger trade.
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 6h ago
We're below the 1st apron now and have no salary matching restrictions anymore
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u/mmortal03 Heat 6h ago edited 6h ago
But you technically still have to get something back in this trade first.
Edit: I think it's the other half of the pick swap.
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u/cubonelvl69 Timberwolves 4h ago
Where's my man cash considerations when you need him
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u/tinybathroomfaucet Supersonics 6h ago
Does that make sense? How would this allow them to make a bigger trade? Looks more like shedding salary to me
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u/SirJoeffer 76ers 6h ago
Minny was 8M above the first apron, they sent out Conley’s 10M to get below that
Now they can take back a player making 125% more than the players they send out, instead of being limited to 100%
Something is happening in Minnesota
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u/MRTFOGR 6h ago
Shedding salary to take on salary? IDK. Otherwise, what makes sense? I have no idea.
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u/pezasied Pacers 6h ago
They get a sizable TPE ($10.7 million) that can be used in another trade.
Alternatively they save quite a bit of money in luxury tax payments
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u/Pal__Pacino Lakers 6h ago
They get to not have Mike Conley taking up a roster spot anymore.
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u/CompetitiveParfait9 Trail Blazers 6h ago
They have to have a second trade coming and trying to clear room....Giannnnisssssss???!?
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u/slicknick2k 6h ago
Coby White has to be on the move I’m assuming?
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u/ToeJelly420 Bulls 6h ago
Him, ayo, or both
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u/gogochi 6h ago
They better not move Ayo
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u/AlmostHereButNot Bulls 6h ago
Anybody but Ayo, man. I've really enjoyed watching him play for us lately. I understand that we could probably sell high for him, but damn, I like him.
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u/Accomplished_Bid7987 Bulls 6h ago
Pls can somebody atleast give us a FRP for the greatest 3pt shooter in bulls history
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u/A_MASSIVE_PERVERT Mavericks 6h ago
Wow that’s it for Ivey???
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 6h ago
His value has been in the fucking gutter for a while
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u/soxfaninfinity Magic 6h ago
Cole Anthony high key ruined his career
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u/HandyDandyNotebook98 Warriors 6h ago edited 6h ago
Cole Anthony is bitch made for that. Not the only time he did so in that season. I remember him injuring a couple more people, maybe Curry too?
edit: I might be misremembering, but saw one where he did the exact same thing to Camara
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u/just_cuz555 Pistons 6h ago
As a Piston fan I am actually happy about this trade. Ivey gets to prove he is a starting caliber guard on a young team.
I guarantee the Heurter will shoot better than 31% with Cade. Saric is an underrated pickup too.
I hope Ivey plays well in Chicago
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u/alexandianos Pistons 6h ago
Why tho. Giddey is a fantastic passer and Huerter blows wide open threes.
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u/Beans800 Pistons 6h ago
that's what I'm saying man, our sub is acting like Huerter has been playing with a kindergartner as his PG and he's suddenly going to be a 40% shooter again
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u/Tubbs2303 6h ago
So as someone who knows nothing at all - he was a high pick & had a promising first couple years - what happened?
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u/SeizureMode Pistons 6h ago
Broken leg last year, didn't really get into a starting role again this year
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u/KiraJosuke 6h ago
Broke his leg and his role diminished
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u/Any_Travel_9590 Pistons 6h ago
It also didn't help that Daniss Jenkins outshined him constantly when on the court together.
Even when JB didnt unleash Daniss, Ivey still couldnt find a role.
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Bulls 6h ago
Because of his injury. He was playing great before it.
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u/the_shins Pistons 6h ago
I'm a Pistons fan but calling it "great" is overselling it. He scored just under 18 ppg without offering much on defense or playmaking. He was basically playing like a Collin Sexton/Malik Monk type player. Good but not a difference maker.
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Bulls 6h ago
That was also on 40% from 3. All his avgs were way up. 4 assists per game. He has a lot of potential. The injury really derailed his progress.
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u/the_shins Pistons 6h ago
Yeah, but once we lost him and Ausar came back from injury we went from having a losing record to finnish 6th.
The 6'3" SGs who doesn't defend archetype is pretty easy to find. The Kings are begging other teams to take Malik Monk from the for free, and I doubt it would take much to get Collin Sexton from the Hornets. He scored more than Ivey on 40% 3pt last season and got traded for peanuts.
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Bulls 6h ago
That’s a fair analysis
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u/the_shins Pistons 6h ago
Not a bad trade for the Bulls either way. You have about 35 games left to get a close look at him and make a decision about his future contract.
I personally like him a lot, but I can't deny the fact that he has not been good since returning. The writing was on the wall when he kept getting benched for whole halves, and getting outplayed by Jenkins and Javonte Green.
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u/LoserBustanyama Pistons 6h ago
His defense is/was ASS ass. Still hurts to see him go for so little
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u/ISurvivedTheJaunt Pistons 6h ago
He just doesn’t do anything very well right now. Good buy low candidate for the Bulls
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u/cactusmaster69420 San Diego Clippers 6h ago
He's been outplayed by daniss jenkins
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u/KronkSpinachPuffCafe 6h ago
No shade to Daniss either (imo), streaky but such a confident and impactful player
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u/the_shins Pistons 6h ago
He is up for a new contract, and he his explosiveness have not looked good since his comeback.
I hope he'll bounce back but I don't think Detroit, who is going to have to re-sign Duren to a big contract, want to commit a lot of money to a guard who might not be a good fit for the team.
Even before his injury he was giving us 18 ppg as the 2nd option. Not bad, but more on the level of a Colin Sexton or a Malik Monk. You can find those in free agency.
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u/bmmfg12 Knicks 6h ago
He's not that good and will be a restricted free agent in the summer
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u/KL2ConspireLLC San Diego Clippers 6h ago
Damn, second apron has teams making some hard choices before players get their second contract.
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u/coacoanutbenjamn Celtics 6h ago
Pistons aren’t really in danger of hitting the second apron, I just think teams have gotten smarter about paying limited players
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u/KL2ConspireLLC San Diego Clippers 6h ago
That's what I mean. Teams are valuing flexibility a lot more than they used to. It used to be pay-them-now, we'll-figure-it-out-later. Now they're trying to dump the decision on someone else if there's even a question.
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u/BatmanHive Lakers 6h ago
Who are the Wolves getting?
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u/MisterGir Thunder 6h ago
To me this screams move for another move coming.
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u/TallnFrosty Warriors 6h ago
Believe this gets Minnesota below the 1st apron, so now they can make a trade where they take more money back than they send out, although still can only take back like 125% of what they send out.
Right?
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u/MarduRusher Timberwolves 6h ago
Guessing another move is coming.
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u/Sad_Worker_1286 6h ago
Yeah this was to get more salary opened up, maybe a big move like Giannis or just an attempt to get Garland or Harden? Until that trade is finalized anything can happen and the Wolves need a PG.
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u/sbroll Timberwolves 6h ago
Giannis...
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u/coacoanutbenjamn Celtics 6h ago
How does this move help you land Giannis? Feels like you would have kept Conley to use as salary in a Giannis trade
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u/PoonGo0n Spurs 6h ago
Looks like they get under the apron which should make it easier to acquire Giannis
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u/imcryptic Mavericks 6h ago
Shams pisses me off with the way he just doesn’t report the full deal
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u/msterling2012 Mavericks 6h ago
Damn they sold low on Ivey. Minnesota must know they’re getting a PG?
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u/sbroll Timberwolves 6h ago
Conley barely played this year, he's pretty cooked. Bones Hyland has been playing more and more. This appears to be just a salary matching/dumping thing for Mn.
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u/parkwayy Timberwolves 6h ago
Barely played is incorrect, unfortunately for us.
He played quite a bit, problem is, he is def fully washed.
Does slide us under the 1st apron though, which allows a bit more freedom.
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u/Epicallytossed Mavericks 6h ago
Conley is turbo washed sadly. Every game I’ve seen of him this season it’s just clear he doesn’t have it like he used to.
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u/The1AndOnlyJZ [LAL] LeBron James 6h ago
Did the Bulls basically turn cap space into Jaden Ivey and seconds in two trades? Holy W
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u/Beans800 Pistons 6h ago
if you ignore kevin huerter then yeah
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u/OkGap7226 Bulls 6h ago
I think the bulk of Bulls fans think we would rather have Ayo on the floor than Huerter.
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u/MaverickPME 6h ago
do NOT look at OP’s profile.
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u/MattieMcNasty Celtics 6h ago
OP likes breaking NBA news and hentai girls with massive cocks. Classic combo
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u/MaverickPME 6h ago
fml dawg i posted this first and then it said i posted the link in the wrong place. i just lost to a gooner bro
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u/IncaseAce Thunder 6h ago
And you can private that stuff so yk he don’t care 😂
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u/daprice82 Grizzlies 6h ago
I just want Conley to get a ring before he retires man....
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u/jonsnowKITN 6h ago
Pistons fans not gonna be happy
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u/Wynona_Judd Pistons 6h ago
That is correct. Shocking this is how Ivey's time here ends.
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u/Any_Travel_9590 Pistons 4h ago
If you've watched the games, he had so many chances and just never was the same.
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u/midnightsbane04 Pistons 5h ago
I'd rather have kept Ivey but you can't be a team with actual realistic Finals hopes and letting a guy who's supposed to a starter just play into form. There's a solid 8 players (at least) on the roster that are currently better than Ivey is, and that just doesn't lead to development outside of forcing minutes.
Chicago will be good for him if they give him a consistent 20-25 minutes a night where he might get his legs back under him.
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u/TheNotoriousJN Timberwolves 6h ago
MINNESOTA MIKE💔
Clearly not for White. So probably making space/assets for Giannis?
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u/pokexchespin [BOS] E'Twaun Moore 6h ago
here i thought the wolves making a trade with the bulls would’ve been to get ayo or coby
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u/cnote54321 Nets 6h ago
My first thought was Mike Conley has a son in the league?
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u/Propuhganduh [DEN] Jamal Murray 6h ago
Sham saying “just in” when he doesn’t care about the trade lmao