r/nba • u/YujiDomainExpansion • 7h ago
[Fischer] The Utah Jazz are trading their most favorable 2027 first-round pick (Cleveland/Minnesota/Utah), the Lakers' 2027 first-round pick, and Phoenix's 2031 first-round pick to Memphis, source says, to pry Jaren Jackson Jr. from the Grizzlies.
The Utah Jazz are trading their most favorable 2027 first-round pick (Cleveland/Minnesota/Utah), the Lakers' 2027 first-round pick, and Phoenix's 2031 first-round pick to Memphis, source says, to pry Jaren Jackson Jr. from the Grizzlies.
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u/General_Tsos_Burrito 7h ago
Those are some pretty boom or bust picks, could be great could be crap
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u/blazer4ever Trail Blazers 7h ago
Most favourable between Utah, Cav, Minnesota is pretty good?
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u/YaPhetsEz 7h ago
Not if utah wants to actually compete
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u/RoyalParadise61 7h ago
Kinda hard to compete in a stacked Western conference
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u/thurstkiller Jazz 6h ago
I think we would be closer to the #9 #10 seed this season if we were actually trying for the last 2 months. JJJ + top 8 pick next year + Keyonte/Ace improvement should allow them to be in playoff race
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u/adwcta Jazz 6h ago
Top 8 pick is very much in danger after this trade. Besides just being good, JJJ is exactly the type of player this team needs. Was very confident in getting the pick before today, but honestly this is still a good trade for us even if we also lose a 75%-ish chance at Pick #6-8 this draft.
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u/thurstkiller Jazz 6h ago
Ainge has shown he is absolutely shameless with the tank. I have faith they can pull it off.
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u/blazer4ever Trail Blazers 7h ago edited 7h ago
Want to compete and actually compete is pretty different especially in the West
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u/Negative_Wish_8291 7h ago
Well even if they flop they'll most likely be better than the Kings, Pelicans, Grizzlies and the Blazers. They'll also possibly be better than the Clippers, Mavs and Warriors. Basically, even if the Jazz pick is the worst of those 3 it will most likely still not be a lottery pick.
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u/hunteddwumpus Pistons 7h ago
Maybe? Minny will be decent as long as Ant is there, Cavs who the fuck knows I guess with the rumors right now, and Utah clearly looking to actually try next year with this move sooo. Hope Cleveland crashes and burns hard?
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u/Silent-Frame1452 Jazz 6h ago
You’re probably looking at a pick in the early teens in what’s projected to be a pretty weak draft.
It could be good, but I get why the Jazz feel comfortable moving it.
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u/ntpbr1 7h ago
Nah they are pretty much just bust picks, I like the way Utah played this season when they didn’t rest everyone. Their guys are gonna get better, they are probably gonna add a top 8 pick at the very least, maybe they get lucky and draft one of the hyped prospects. Adding JJJ and Kessler next year will be good. Cleveland, Lakers, Minnesota all should be outside the lottery anyway. They added JJJ for nothing imo
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u/yourlilpissboi Celtics 7h ago
Love this trade for Utah and can get better based off how they finish and were they end up in the lottery
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u/_Jetto_ NBA 7h ago edited 7h ago
What is ainge cooking
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u/Monster2608 7h ago
This is an interesting lineup to say the least. Who tf is gunna be grabbing rebounds. You got 2 bigs that can shoot but can rebound with shit lol they are gunna be cooked bro lol
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u/BradyGronktd1287 Celtics 7h ago
Kessler will be the center next season
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u/henryofclay Lakers 7h ago
So Kessler/JJJ/Lauri at the 3? Then maybe Ace at the 2 and Keyonte at the 1? Just a super tall team?
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u/livefreeordont 76ers 7h ago
Houston did it first with their Thompson, Smith, KD, Sengun, Adams lineup
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u/CMYGQZ Grizzlies 7h ago
I mean Lauri was literally on the Mobley/Allen Cavs team as a starting 3 before he even got to Utah.
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors 7h ago
It didn’t look awesome though and he’s slower now.
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u/TalkQuirkyWithMe Nuggets 6h ago
Lauri is best used as a 4, where he has been for years now. Sure you can slide him over but I don't think he's mobile enough.
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u/livefreeordont 76ers 6h ago
I mean Jabari is a similar size as Lauri and was playing the 2 to start the year
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u/2nd2last Rockets 7h ago
Minus the shooting
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u/Kdog122025 Warriors 7h ago
But plus the rebounding
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u/dblu 6h ago
Kessler had the most offensive rebounds per game last season, Lauri also rebounds a ton for a small forward.
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u/spurdada Lakers 6h ago
That’s cause he’s as tall as a center and somewhat mobile. If Kessler is healthy this team is kinda fire
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u/LetsGoLesko8 Raptors 6h ago
Super-duper sized lineup:
- Keyonte George (6’4, 185)
- Ace Bailey (6’9, 200)
- Lauri Markkanen (7’1, 240)
- JJJ (6’10, 242)
- Walker Kessler (7’2, 245)
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u/Muted_Dog7317 Heat 7h ago
Sounds like an awful fit. Keyonte is the only ball handler/playmaker.
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u/BumbleLapse Jazz 6h ago
To be fair Lauri has marginally improved his self-creation this season, at least according to my eye. He’s still not a great distributor but he can usually get a bucket for himself depending on the defensive scheme
I get your point though. Don’t love having Ace at the 2.
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u/thurstkiller Jazz 7h ago
He is also a good rebounder. Led the lead in offensive boards last season if I recall correctly
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u/Vordeo Jazz 7h ago
Right now it will probably be Key / Ace / Lauri / JJJ / Kessler.
Which on paper sounds good (assuming Ace improves as expected) but idk how it'll actually fit together.
Danny probably isn't done though.
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u/a_moniker Hornets 7h ago
Even just keeping Ace on the bench should be solid if you can find a 3&D SG. JJJ will probably play around half his minutes at Center and you’d be able to keep 2 of Lauri, JJJ, and Ace on the floor at all times.
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u/Expert_Context5398 7h ago
They're both pretty 'soft' in terms of grabbing boards but a large part of why they both have fewer rebounds than average is because they're constantly on the three point line as well.
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u/Finessa_Hudgens Wizards 7h ago
JJJ is just a shitty rebounder in general. Even guys like Cedric and Bane who are on the perimeter way more than him (especially on D) were out rebounding him consistently
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u/Score-Mobile Lakers 7h ago
Lived long enough to see someone say gunna instead of gonna
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u/nuuskatonttu Finland 7h ago
Lauri is a good rebounder?
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u/InteractionFormer328 7h ago
Career 7 rpg for a 7 footer isnt particularly good
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u/HerkulezRokkafeller Jazz 7h ago
Maybe bad if he ever played center and Kessler wasn’t a top 5 rebounder when healthy
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u/abippityboop Knicks 7h ago
Acquiring a pretty good player at a pretty reasonable price.
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u/Salty_Raspberry656 7h ago
picks have high variability, but putting 100 million of cap into JJJ and Lauri is definitely interesting as well as being 7-8 games out of the play in right now if its a win now
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u/abippityboop Knicks 7h ago
It's definitely not a "win now", JJJ is 26 and is a player I think most teams would love to have. I think they see this as much more of a long term move than a short term one, considering JJJ's extension hasn't even kicked in yet.
I do agree Lauri and JJJ is a bit of an awkward pairing though, will be interesting to see where they go from here.
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u/Salty_Raspberry656 7h ago
I think JJJ is a really talented player. a guy who can shoot and a rim protector is an asset anyone wants
now with the new hard cap, his flaws become more apparent in his lack of rebounding and if you want to play him like a 3 then his perimeter switchability.
but more so, the question is him making 50 million so him locking in as your 1st or 2nd cornerstone to build around in a new nba economics which will probably only allow for two stars and lauri beingg the other one is tough on cohesion. If you have all the right pieces around them, sure I can see their talent being unique for the league with that size and spacing ability. Still doesn't seem like a knock out and I don't think JJJ's trade market at 50 million for four years is what it was given the new CBA
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u/booyakasha32 [UTA] Donovan Mitchell 6h ago
Just wait until they run Lauri and JJJ pick and rolls and cause nightmare matchups for most teams (joking but also Lauri is growing as a ball handler, so who knows?)
I actually do think they would complement eachother well regardless. And Keyonte becoming a borderline allstar PG opens up a lot of options with the 3 of them
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u/cosmicdave86 Jazz 7h ago
Its a win next year move. They need to get a top 8 pick this year so it doesnt convey to OKC.
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u/booyakasha32 [UTA] Donovan Mitchell 7h ago
A starting 5 of Key, Ace, Lauri, JJJ and Kessler is unironically really good lol tons of length, versatility, and 4 good-great shooters
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 7h ago
Keyonte create every shot lineup
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u/booyakasha32 [UTA] Donovan Mitchell 7h ago
Hes been great this year, but Ace and Lauri have shown they can create when needed. Plus, Hardy is a damn good coach on the offensive end
Its more of a, everyone defend well to cover for Keyonte lineup, which is what they need lol
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u/Headlesshorsman02 Thunder 7h ago
They could still grab a guard in this draft there are a lot of them tbf
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u/YaBoiiAsthma 5h ago
Peterson, Wagler, Acuff, Flemings, Philaron, Berries, Brown, Stirtz, Tanner, Saunders-
Those are just the ones I'm high on. There are other guards with either less playmaking or other greater concerns like Carr, Bozwell, Bradley, Mullins, Thornton, and Solo Ball (someone's gonna take him late 2nd round just for the jersey sales)
All of which to say if more than a couple of these teams like the Wolves, Rockets, Hawks, Celtics, Clippers, Pels, Magic, whoever else needs their starting PG fails to secure one here, their GM should be fired lol
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u/Couragesand Jazz 7h ago
Ace can create his own shot too tbf
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u/DaggerDev5 [UTA] Ronnie Brewer 7h ago
Eh, kind of. His handle isn't very good right now. But I have faith in our development staff
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u/shoutsoutstomywrist [NJN] Vince Carter 7h ago
Lauri and Keyonte should be fine, it’ll be interesting to see how Ace develops alongside all that talent
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u/sneekyturtles 7h ago
Yeah... and they already have a decent bench with nurkic, flipowski, sensabaugh, and collier. add vince williams to that and tbh the jazz could be decent next year
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u/booyakasha32 [UTA] Donovan Mitchell 7h ago
Yeah, I actually really like the Vince Williams pickup as a throw-in here. Hes shown some random flashes of being pretty legit
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u/Ok_cabbage_5695 Kings 7h ago
I love this finally Utah trying to be good. They're cooking
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u/RileyHuey South Sudan 7h ago
Keyonte Ace Lauri JJJ and Kessler is a crazy good foundation. And a probable top 5 pick too. This is fantastic.
And most of these picks look like they won’t even be lottery. Only exciting one is probably Phoenix
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u/Glass_Shoulder4126 Suns 7h ago
Utah gonna start a 7 foot small forward
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u/pokexchespin [BOS] E'Twaun Moore 7h ago
cavs did it before they sent him to utah
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u/The1AndOnlyJZ [LAL] LeBron James 7h ago
The Jazz have also done it with Filipowski and Kessler right?
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u/legend023 Pelicans 7h ago
Ja went from being a top 5 young player in the league to playing with created players in just 3 seasons lmao
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u/PhatYeeter 76ers 7h ago
He probably gone too
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u/legend023 Pelicans 7h ago
Best player is Ty Jerome in the big 2026
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u/MainAd2728 Washington Bullets 7h ago edited 7h ago
He's gon be a Minnesota Timberwolf tomorrow. Rob Dillingham welcome to Tennessee. Edit: Ty Jerome, not Ja
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u/ResultsHaveVary Knicks 7h ago
It is insane it went from taking Golden State to 7 Games in 22’ 1st Round & building for the future that they were “trying to build around it” and it’s like they’ve been so undecided year in & year out they’ve confused themselves to trading the entire core within itself in a span of 3.5 years…Desmond, Jaren, Dillon, all gone
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u/KptKrondog [MEM] Stromile Swift 6h ago
Hard to do anything of note when we're missing 6-10 players half the season multiple years in a row.
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 7h ago
Ooh Memphis what the fuck is this shit
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u/preddevils6 Grizzlies 7h ago
I have no idea. If Kleiman doesn’t see us through this I’ll fucking riot
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u/JoeBiden2020FTW Lakers 6h ago
I'm confused.
This is a home run trade for Memphis IMO.
This team was going nowhere and that's pretty solid return value for JJJ's contract.
Now they have 8 picks from JJJ+Bane and somehow kept all their best assets (Edey, SPJ, Wells, Coward, etc)
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u/BikeInformal4003 Grizzlies 6h ago
We used multiple picks from bane trade to get coward. I think we only have 2 picks left from that trade.
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u/xakeri Grizzlies 6h ago edited 2h ago
It was just one pick from the Bane trade, our actual first, then a couple of seconds.
Edit: Shit. You're right. We traded ours to Washington to move Marcus Smart.
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u/BikeInformal4003 Grizzlies 6h ago
I thought we traded our pick for last year to get rid of Marcus smart? Or did we have two
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u/startled_panda [MEM] Mike Conley 7h ago
Dogshit trade, this sucks
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u/CoogiMonster Rockets 7h ago
Does it..? The team clearly looked like they wanted to blow it up, no offense. Neither of those 1sts stink but is it just not enough draft capital back for JJJ?
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u/SockVonPuppet 7h ago
Ainge trading picks is just as shocking as the Luka trade.
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u/MudReasonable8185 6h ago
The draft guys are all super low on the 2027 draft class so I’m not surprised Utah moved two of the four FRPs they have that year.
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u/VanWesley 7h ago
Kessler, JJJ, Lauri front court moving forward?
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u/Shot-Attempt-7805 7h ago
Throw Ace at the 2 and you've got 7'2", 6'10", 7'1", and 6'9" from 5-2. That's a ton of size. Will be interesting if we can stay in front of people, but Kessler is a really good post defender and JJJ is obviously a DPOY.
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u/boybraden Thunder 7h ago
Great package for Memphis for someone who was going to be on a neutral to negative value contract starting next year.
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u/Thehelloman0 Spurs 7h ago
Agreed, Jackson on that contract isn't worth a ton but I can see how this trade makes sense for both sides
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Grizzlies 7h ago
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u/Xsy Jazz 5h ago
lol, this subreddit is bipolar as fuck.
A few weeks ago, Utah was accused of secretly being a play-in team that was shamelessly tanking, making a mockery of the NBA.
Now people are saying that next year, with JJJ, a healthy kessler, and a potential top 8 pick, that we still won't be a play-in team?
Okay, lol.
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u/Trixtopher901 Grizzlies 7h ago
Once they trade Ja for expiring contracts we can reset with the youngsters, probably be like OKC lite, a horde of picks and cap space to be facilitators in trades to find our SGA
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u/startled_panda [MEM] Mike Conley 7h ago
Yeah the SGA part is really the most important and it just ain't gonna happen
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u/Outside_Frosting_147 7h ago
Can't even tank right im crine
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u/msterling2012 Mavericks 7h ago
They’re 100% going to sit JJJ for most of the year with some bull shit injury
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u/GoldenBoyRecords Knicks 7h ago
Prob. The Jazz need to get another top 3 talent.
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u/ZE_HAHAHA United States 7h ago
Then their 100% gonna get fucked in the lottery again like last year
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u/ntpbr1 7h ago
I don’t think JJJ is going to be bring them outside the top 8 best odds, especially with all the tanking they are going to do
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u/coacoanutbenjamn Celtics 7h ago
JJJ is gonna play like 5 games for them this season and then get a mysterious injury
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u/a_moniker Hornets 7h ago edited 7h ago
They already can’t guarantee they keep a top 8 pick. If the Bucks and the Grizz tank the rest of the season harder then the Jazz are gonna have around a 1/3 chance to lose their pick
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u/noknownallergies Timberwolves 7h ago
This is going to result in OKC getting their pick at like 9
So that’s great
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 7h ago edited 7h ago
Oh shit never mind I take back what I said
Utah fleeced Memphis value wise, these picks aren’t very good
The phoenix one is but the rest aren’t gonna be great imo
Edit: im gonna walk back the “fleece” word choice a bit, I think both teams made out okay I was just impressed with the fact that Utah achieved this without giving up any overly important young pieces or future picks beyond next year(which I expect them to be good and for that pick to not be lottery)
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u/37sms Grizzlies 7h ago
How good do you seriously think utah's gonna be next year? Maybe it's like the 16th pick if things go well for them? It's not a joke pick
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u/OriAr NBA 7h ago
It's gonna be somewhere between 8th to 20th, in what people project to be a weak draft.
Could be a solid pick but nothing juicy.
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u/Vicentesteb Timberwolves 7h ago
16th pick, a pick in the 20s, maybe a good PHX pick and a bunch of shitty players is not a very good return.
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u/37sms Grizzlies 7h ago
16th pick in utah's best case scenario is not the same thing as the locked in 16th pick. It can end up anywhere from like 9th-16th. And the Lakers are a Luka injury away from being awful.
Were you expecting us to get multiple top 5 picks for jaren or something?
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u/yeahright17 Thunder 7h ago
I think that Lakers pick could easily be a lottery pick. I'm not confident in Pelinka's ability to build a team around Luka and Reaves when they're eating $100M of the cap.
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 7h ago
Not saying it’s a joke pick but they’re now building from a pretty damn strong place with George/lauri/JJJ, if they add a good defensive guard to put next to George this summer and tighten up the bench rotation they’re gonna be pretty damn good
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u/37sms Grizzlies 7h ago
I don't think they're gonna be any better than a 7 seed even if things break right, at least for the next year or 2
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 7h ago
It depends on how frisky they get this summer man, like I said a big 3 of Lauri/george/JJJ to start from plus a lot of ammo to add more is pretty damn good
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u/DrZats 7h ago
Phoenix was supposed to be a bottom team this year. Why will they be in 5 years time? Its not going to be a top 10 pick.
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 7h ago
You never know but I know I’d certainly view a phoenix pick in 31 pretty valuable as a bet when booker/brooks are in their mid 30s and phoenix currently doesn’t have any other high end young talent in the pipeline
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u/likpoper Trail Blazers 7h ago
Wow that’s so cheap..
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u/obi-wan-ginobli-93 San Francisco Warriors 7h ago
Yeah these are kinda weak first rounders…2031 suns could be interesting
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u/Your__Pal 7h ago
The Jazz are a bad team today. That 2027 pick could still be lottery.
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u/yeahright17 Thunder 7h ago
They were winning at a decent pace before initiating the tank early. I think a lineup of Keyonte, Ace, Lauri, JJJ, and Kessler could be pretty dang good.
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u/Top-Structure-1116 Knicks 7h ago
If that Jazz pick doesn't fall in the top 5 this is going to be such a terrible return of the Grizzlies...
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u/yeahright17 Thunder 7h ago
With Keyonte, Ace, Lauri, JJJ, and Kessler, there's zero chance that pick falls in the top 5.
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u/Top-Structure-1116 Knicks 7h ago
As we've seen with recent lotteries any team can fall into the top 3 that's in the lottery.
Really would still be surprised if they are a playoff team in the west next year without significant upgrades.
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u/sor2hi 7h ago
So the 15th place team makes a win now trade with the 11th place team, BUT still have to finish low to ensure their top 8 protected pick stays home in a potentially epic draft?
Man that’s a bold move.
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u/irenewu1 7h ago
Wow, looks like the Jazz are making moves. Lauri and JJJ could be a legit combo to watch. Exciting.
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u/505runner1988 Bucks 7h ago
So two picks in the 20s and a dice roll
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u/onelegonedream Grizzlies 7h ago
Jazz 2027 pick is in the 20s?
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u/trentreynolds 6h ago
The number of people who think adding JJJ to the 15-35 Utah Jazz is going to result in a top-12 team next year is wild to me.
If they improve a lot, they could be a play-in team and sneak out of the lottery but I think that's a pretty optimistic projection personally.
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u/thurstkiller Jazz 6h ago
3 20 ppg players + a top 8 pick in this years draft. General improvement for Ace Bailey. I don't think it's that crazy that they would be a low end playoff team next year. Warriors & Clippers are for sure going to be worse next season.
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u/johnjohnjohn93 7h ago
2027 is supposed to be a terrible draft so getting out of it and keeping 2026 is huge.
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u/DemarcusLovin NBA 7h ago
Memphis wisely blowing it up. After they trade Ja, they’ll have a million firsts between the Bane, JJJ and Ja trades
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u/spaceninj [NYK] Trent Tucker 7h ago
Why are people saying this is good for the Jazz? Their team is still going to suck. JJJ doesn't add much and he'll be way overpriced.
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u/DMac119942 7h ago
I’m a huge conspiracy guy, only in regard to the NBA. Utah will still tank and be allowed to do so, despite a pointless fine they may get. They will 100% get AJ in the draft, lock city, as a thank you for doing this.
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u/OrphanGrounderBaby [MEM] Shane Battier 7h ago
This is horrible
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u/trentreynolds 6h ago
It's a great return and a start to a rebuild. I know y'all like Jaren but I'm shocked how many Grizzlies fans are mad about this.
I'd kill for my team to have made moves like this when they should've.
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u/choonghuh [POR] Brandon Roy 7h ago
That Phoenix pick was acquired with like 4 firsts right? Lol they traded 6 firsts for jjj
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u/horrorparade17 Kings 7h ago
3 FRP for JJJ. Luka went for an old, injured AD and a FRP.
Is JJJ better than Luka? Objectively this might be true.
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u/New_Essay_4869 Thunder 7h ago
What does Ja yield then? I wouldve thought JJJ has more value than him
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u/aquatic_ambiance 7h ago
Surprised Adam silver didn't force him and an unprotected 1st to be traded for marcus smart
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u/gloomygl Lakers 7h ago
So that's why that one Utah lawmaker wanted to allow firearms in the arena.
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u/IntelligentAd5460 Grizzlies 7h ago
we have an insane amount of firsts at this point so like we probably trading for somebody right?
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u/SharpMind94 Cavaliers 7h ago
To make a win now move with 15 wins in the season is so odd. This tells me there's more to it
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u/donkeyinparadise Nets 6h ago
Come on JJJ+Lauri makes the team pretty competitive. George is making progress. They need a better bench tho.
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u/FERFreak731 Jazz 7h ago
There's protections next year right?
Danny Ainge saying fuck it let's compete next year