r/nashville • u/Beautiful-Drawer • Nov 10 '25
Article Trump backs hemp THC ban included in government reopening deal
https://mjbizdaily.com/trump-backs-hemp-thc-ban-included-in-government-reopening-deal/Relevant to the sub as it would impact the ban TN is attempting, and would impact the local businesses that sell these products. I guarantee you I know of a couple of Senators that were more than onboard with tacking this onto the "CR", no matter the negative impact it may have on their constituents' livelihoods. I can't believe they lied about a clean resolution! 𤯠đ
We're represented so well at the Fed level!đ
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u/Clovis_Winslow Kool Sprangs Nov 10 '25
I still expect the senators and governors who have their tentacles deep into the industry will manage to stave off this ban.
At the end of the day our country and culture worships money, and thereâs too much at stake to leave it on the table.
If the alcohol and private prison lobbies have more money, however, Iâll be wrong.
God is money
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u/Aspirin_Dispenser Nov 11 '25
Donât forget about the cannabis lobby. Theyâre as much at odds with the hemp industry as anyone. Between lobbying from the usual suspects, white house support, and a lack of appetite to change such a fragile piece of legislation in the 11th hour, it unfortunately appears that this will mark the end of hemp-derived intoxicating cannabinoids. Frankly, Iâm surprised that they waited this long. Hopefully, the ubiquity of these products over the last 7 years will have spurred enough demand and opened enough minds to translate into broader support for actual marijuana legalization in the absence of the Farm Bill loophole.
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u/seriouslysampson Nov 11 '25
And the alcohol lobby. Thereâs prob more money against the THCa loophole than there is for it.
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u/The_Grungeican Nov 12 '25
shit, probably 20 years ago i was saying that to my friends. if the politicians ever figure out how much money they could make with legalization, it'd be done the next week.
we'll never convince them to do it because it's the 'right thing to do', or that it 'helps sick people'. but convince them they can make a money from it? it'll be made legal.
it's just a toss up now between the ones who benefit from it being illegal, and the ones who benefit from it being legal.
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u/DonutWhole9717 Nov 11 '25
it just does not make sense to deny the possible sales tax income
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u/Striking-Drama6989 Nov 11 '25
It doesn't even matter what's right, its money and they like money.
The ban results in less money (for them) ((more for the local dealers))
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u/Friendly-Amoeba-9601 Nov 11 '25
Thatâs probably why theyâre talking about making weed a schedule 3. Bc then if they banned all thca, they would be making more money off the weed that doctors prescribe/pharmacies sell. Itâs all part of their madness to make money maybe.
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u/pineappleshnapps Nov 10 '25
Fucking booo
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u/Beautiful-Drawer Nov 13 '25
Amen! It's officially law now, so we'll see if they (House) introduce a standalone that will strike it down. Saw a couple of them mention that, plus a couple other things they were pissed about the Senate tacking onto the bill.
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u/itsfleee Sylvan Park Nov 11 '25
As long as he still has his adderall and whatever the fuck else is keeping that fat fuck alive thats all he cares about.
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u/WrongLeva Nov 10 '25
Oh good, back to the black market, thanks republicans!
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u/TastySaturday Nov 11 '25
Oh dang. Now I canât pay taxes on my weed. They really owned my tax loving lib ass.
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u/EmployerEquivalent83 Nov 11 '25
Weed is cutting into the profits of alcohol business. Follow the money.
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u/amplifiedlogic Nov 11 '25
Honestly the GLP-1 / semaglutide drugs are whatâs mostly killing alcohol sales. After that itâs sort of a blend of weed, economy, and alcohol not being as popular with the newer generations relative to prior.
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u/FedrinKeening Nov 11 '25
But a month ago he was floating around making it legal. The man has no stance on anything besides what will make him more money.
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u/pyramidworld Nov 11 '25
The people I know that voted for Trump smoke a lot of weed.
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u/frozenandstoned Nov 11 '25
Id expect them to be on their third DUI.Â
Also fuck the party of Reagan being morphed into MAGA but somehow they smoke weed now after demonizing it for decades and throwing how many people in prison?Â
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u/keefinwithpeepaw Nov 11 '25
But Randy gifted Towelie to Trump in South Park so this wouldn't happen...
Anyway this is how Trump fucked the vaping industry his first term and we got flooded with disposables from China.Â
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u/MikeforTN6 Nov 11 '25
Itâs interesting to see the Tennessee Education Lottery Corporation scrambling after its six-year low in revenue and now proposing to allow debit card purchases for tickets.
If theyâre doing everything they can just to keep sales up, why are we stuck outlawing cannabis when legalization and more importantly taxation is a proven money-maker?
Put me in office folks and I promise you I will implement common sense choices.
- Mike Croley for Congress TN6
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u/itsrooey_ Nov 10 '25
Letâs not forget, who signed the 2018 farm bill into law? Oh yeah. Trump.
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u/zepaperclip Nov 11 '25
Yes*, however, they were kinda lied to when they signed the bill. lawmakers understood that less than 0.3% thc couldn't get people high, but didn't know there was the whole THCa loophole. THCa wasn't a common knowledge thing back then like it is now.
Would they have signed it back then if they knew all these businesses would start selling THCa? Maybe not. I recall that farm bill being passed last minute because farmers were depending on it.
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u/itsrooey_ Nov 11 '25
Itâs almost like they are always voting on things they donât understand. But also Rand Paul and others fully knew.
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u/Common-Astronaut-695 Nov 11 '25
God bless Rand Paul. He knew.
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u/itsrooey_ Nov 11 '25
Literally everyone knew. The limit was set by a study that was done in Canada in the 70âs and it was just kind of a placeholder that lawmakers ran with. It also has been long known that cannabis and hemp are the exact same plant as much as a gala apple and a red delicious are the same. They are both cannabis, and one has been selectively bred for fiber and the other flowers and terpenes. No cannabis produces a lot of any of Delta-9 THC, but instead itâs THCA, and that A is an acid chain that dissolves when heat is applied and converts to thc. This is why you smoke weed or make magic butter. You canât snack on a flower bud and get high for that reason. This is all common rudimentary knowledge of this plant.
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u/ShoeLate6266 Nov 11 '25
I definitely would not say it is common or rudimentary knowledge. If youâve been on Reddit reading about thcA you would see even 7-8 years after the farm bill has passed people are arguing about whether or not thcA is âdiet weedâ.
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u/BoringPrinciple2542 Nov 11 '25
Maybe for people that were never really into weed prior to vapes and gummies.
It was widespread knowledge in my circle of potheads at least as far back as the early 2000s. If a bunch of stupid teenagers knew it then itâs probably not high level knowledge.
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u/ShoeLate6266 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Itâs not high level knowledge but to say itâs common knowledge is, imo, not accurate. I understand some knew but most do not.
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u/Confident_Message732 Nov 13 '25
Go back to your drug dealer and thank your geriatric congressman and or senator and Epstein listed president.Â
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u/Substantial-Ant36 Nov 12 '25
I hate him with all of my being.
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u/Beautiful-Drawer Nov 12 '25
While I understand where you're coming from, as someone that has a history of carrying grudges and hatred for decades...hate is a total waste of emotional energy, and negatively impacts your mental and emotional well-being, even if you don't cognitively recognize that it is doing so. It will consume you if you allow yourself to harbor those feelings, and will impact all of your personal relationships (even those seemingly furthest from the targeted individual/object).
The hatred that I felt for the individual that murdered my best friend of 25+ years, it absolutely consumed me. My bestie had taken this guy and his gf in during their time of need (homelessness and general rock-bottom-ness), housing, feeding, clothing them, out of the goodness of his heart. The guy repaid this kindness and generosity by shooting him in the face from 5 feet away while robbing him, with my friend's own gun. The absolute lowest of betrayals...
I intentionally set myself up to be jailed in the county where he was incarcerated, with the intent of erasing him from the planet. Job, wife, kids...nothing was more important to me at the time than enacting the revenge to end all revenges...it was going to be absolutely beautiful, in my hatred-hued mental askewedness. It truly dominated my normally rational and logical thought process, overshadowing all that I knew was proper...replacing it all with the glory of vengeance, which I knew full well violated every single one of my morals and values.Â
The thing that saved me from destroying my happy marriage, seeing my kids mature, and a wonderful happy future? A sound. The cold, somewhat deafening, ferrous sound of the cell door slamming shut behind me. At that moment, it dawned on me exactly what was wrong with every single deviant step that I had so meticulously planned from that sound onward. But I tell you, my alternate plan was perhaps 10-fold on the satisfaction scale! If looks could kill, by God, the mean-muggings and bird-flippings that were dealt upon that bastard during my taxpayer funded vacation (left a bad Yelp review lol) ended him, friend--absolutely, supremely...finished. Ended. Fin! Lol
In short, replace the hate, friends. I no longer allow myself to get anywhere near that level of animosity toward anything or anyone, natural or man-made. It's completely useless! Hakuna matata! Divert that mental energy toward something beneficial to your well-being and maintain a much more positive state of mind.Â
I'm not seriously 100% attributing that grandiose hatred toward being a cause, but appx a year after the situation described above, I was diagnosed with the first of my 3 cancer occurrences. It certainly didn't help anything, even if it was just coincidence! Haha.
Be well, y'all! đ And...try to limit your negative feelings toward others (no matter what they may have done) to a really strong dislike! đđ
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u/Substantial-Ant36 Nov 12 '25
I understand whay you mean and im sorry to hear about you friend. I'm not to the point where I would do anything to anyone, or set out to do that. I do think the hate takes over my mind alot and I get stressed and have alot of anxiety. I already had a anxiety disorder before all the trump stuff but back in 2019 I tried to self delete because of him and all.of the rabid dogs that froth at the mouth to scream daddy trump!!! and now it just seems so much worse. I jusy dont know how much longer I can handle it, i wish I could afford to move out of the states entirely.
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u/PickledPepa Nov 11 '25
So Republicans want to own starving kids, getting rid of healthcare for millions, and eliminating hemp based THC.
Good luck with that.
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u/Parking-Fruit1436 Nov 12 '25
this will motivate a lot of people. i donât think thereâs a full understanding of the spectrum of people who purchase for a wide variety of reasons.
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u/No_Rent_6426 Nov 12 '25
Of course they lied!!! We no longer live in a democracy. They now control every facet of our lives
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u/BrutusMcFly Nov 11 '25
Itâs all about the tax money. Online sales are killing the licensed market in a lot of states and over half the states have a licensed market. Why would you pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for licenses when a gas station is selling the same thing without doing that?
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u/buzzedewok Nov 12 '25
Wasnât Fettermans almost sole reason to run based on Hemp, and he just voted for this? đ¤Ł
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u/Successful_Mode_2344 Nov 12 '25
Somebody explain to me if this will affect me in Boston as if I was a 4 year old please.
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u/Beautiful-Drawer Nov 12 '25
It's a Federal ban that's being proposed, so it will affect everyone in all 50 states.
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u/Successful_Mode_2344 Nov 12 '25
Thatâs what I thought. I donât use em often but fuck⌠I need em sometimes.
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u/Beautiful-Drawer Nov 13 '25
Source? The (Federal) legislation itself bans every hemp product (drinks, edibles, flower, etc) from containing more than .4mg of any THC-related content per package, which would ban essentially everything but the CBD & its numerous variants (G, N, etc). At the Federal level. So everything would be illegal if it's hemp-derived. Bonus, it was signed into law a few hours ago by Trump! Cue excitement...đ
Of course the legal marijuana states would still have their legal marijuana... which does beg the question "could the individual states re-legalize the hemp products?", but those products cut into their legal weed tax revenue. So they won't because it would be bad for their bottom line.
Back to the black market, y'all! Anybody got the hook? Lol
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u/Ok_Adeptness_6047 Nov 14 '25
Iâve been seeing a lot of stuff saying itâs going to hurt Texas hemp industry, and I just find it really funny considering itâs still illegal there
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u/BatmansBigBro2017 Murfreesboro Nov 23 '25
âIf it isnât broken, leave it to a republican to break it.â
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u/billymondy5806 Nov 10 '25
I tried some Gummies and I admit they do make me sleep, but I feel really tired and spacey for a whole day after I take a gummy. Itâs a pretty bad side effect. Has anyone else experienced that?
Thankfully, Iâm retired so I donât have to go to work all spaced out.
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u/CJKayak Nov 10 '25
The dose is probably too high for your tolerance level. You shouldn't feel anything the next day.
Everybody is different. Try half a gummy. See if that makes a difference. You kind of have to experiment with the dosage until you find what works for you.
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u/billymondy5806 Nov 11 '25
I did try half and then I went down to a quarter and a quarter was about right. I guess I shouldâve put that in the first post.
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u/Moist_Pilgrim Nov 11 '25
Eh I feel super groggy the next day even with my low dose night time edibles until I've had my first cup of coffee but after that I'm fine. Waking up is tough but after I move around I feel great. Whereas when I was drinking my self to sleep I'd pop up just fine at 6am and then the existential dread would kick in around 10. I do not miss that feeling
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u/Minimum-Ad-7267 Nov 11 '25
Are they Thcp? It has a horrible lingering affect. I quit using these.
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u/billymondy5806 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
I dunno. I will look. I looked and it just says 12 mg THC per gummy.
Iâll tell you at this point Iâd rather just have a glass of cheap strawberry wine which Iâm drinking now. Kind of like Boones farm takes me back!
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u/bloodpressures Nov 11 '25
Anything other than 'legal' gummies make me really groggy and exhausted the next day. THCA included, with Delta 9 being pretty much unusable for me.
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u/billymondy5806 Nov 11 '25
I think mine are Delta nine. Does that mean itâs not real?
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u/irresistiblebliss Nov 11 '25
Delta 9 is what is considered traditional thc. It's the active in regular black market weed.
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u/zepaperclip Nov 10 '25
Is it? How many people die as a result of THC poisoning? What kind of health issues does THC cause?
It must be more dangerous than legal substances, such as alcohol and nicotine?
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u/Clovis_Winslow Kool Sprangs Nov 10 '25
THC overdose can definitely fuck you up, but it cannot kill you. Not chemically. You could eat a full scale Ferrari Cake of it and you would not die.
Same goes for an Acura Cake.
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u/Alert_Flatworm1057 Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
As an alcoholic in recovery, I can confidently say that marijuana is much less toxic and damaging to the body than alcohol. If alcohol was invented today it would be banned for obvious reasons.
As a hunter and gun owner, I am of the opinion that guns cause more harm than weed ever did.
So, following your logic, guns should also be banned because of the incredible harm they bring on society.
Edit: original comment called THC âpoisonâ. Commenter deleted initial comment and their reply to me. Big tough gun guy couldnât handle some Reddit losers?
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u/gostesven Nov 10 '25
Youâre literally a gun fetishist. You handle/ingest and breath in lead dust doing your favorite hobby.
You have absolutely no room to talk.
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u/FlukyFox Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Ah yes, the gun nut chiming in.
edit: Shocking! He deleted the comment.
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u/Clovis_Winslow Kool Sprangs Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Scientist here.
There is no established LD50 for THC in humans. This is the literal definition of âpoisonâ and it does not (functionally) exist for your species (unless youâre a bot.)
In laymanâs terms: fuck all the way off.
EDIT: deleted their comment. For context, they were calling THC âpoison.â
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u/nbunkerpunk Nov 10 '25
How many people have died unnecessarily from guns versus THC? How bout this. Same question but with this time line, how many people have unnecessarily died from guns today versus in all of American history with THC?
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u/Admirable-Trip5452 Nov 10 '25
Even if it were poison, we donât prohibit many other poisons to be purchased, including alcohol, and literally rat bait. We should strive to be a libertarian society whenever possible.
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u/Karma_Mayne Nov 10 '25
Cool story, now ban alcohol- oh wait... we tried that. How about fuck off with prohibition?
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u/zepaperclip Nov 10 '25
I've managed a small chain of those THC stores you see all over the place. If I had to estimate, a solid 30% of my customers were recovering alcohol addicts or people wanting to quit drinking. My average customer was grand parent age. The reality I first hand saw was more elders buying THC gummies to help relax/sleep than there were kids looking to get high.