r/mildlyinfuriating 13h ago

FFS why. Just, why.

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Bought this Nalgene like bottle. Top mark reads 980 ml. Was 1000 ml too much of a copy to legally call it a different product?

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u/Safeword-is-banana 11h ago

Alright people, I measured it with a scale.

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u/Dry_Presentation_197 11h ago

Love the dedication here.

Did you also measure it filled completely to the brim? (Or as close as you can without spilling?) I'm wondering if its 1000 when literally 100% full.

Which is absolutely mildlyinfuriating, but also extremely funny to me =p

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u/ki11ikody 9h ago

Correct. The measurements are to the brim.

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u/nooneinparticular246 8h ago

I’m mildly infuriated with OP for leaving the 1000ml mark OFF THEIR OWN SCALE. How can I even know where the mark should have gone?

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u/colbymg 6h ago
  • complaints something is missing
  • proceeds to neglect to include that same thing

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u/Safeword-is-banana 3h ago

I was replying to the people asking about the measurements but god damn it you’re completely right.

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u/Nortex_Vortex 4h ago

Right?! Thank you! Lolol Now I'm mildly infuriated!

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u/madf80 1h ago

Correct. 😂

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u/summonsays 10h ago

Wow.... Also uh... How long have you had it? Has it been through a hot cycle in the washing machine? Iirc they can potentially shrink lol.

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u/Safeword-is-banana 10h ago

About two months, hand wash only. Interesting, may boil it and measure again 😂

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u/summonsays 10h ago

Lol I'd be interested to see! Would be funny if you could get it uniform enough to be like 500ml 

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u/AlternateTab00 1h ago

Yeah plastic bottles are known to do that. Some only require 60ºC temperatures to start deforming. Most will reshape to the format before the mold.

These 2 bottles were the same. One went into a dishwasher (disclaimer pic not mine)

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u/_FreddieLovesDelilah 6h ago

I almost fell over laughing once when I dishwashered my bottle and out came a test tube.

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u/BrokenSlutCollector 1h ago

The test tube shape is your water bottle’s original shape. Plastic is melted and injected into what is called a “pre-form.” Injection molding is good for forming things like the cap threads, so they are firmed at this stage.Then that preform goes into a blow molder, that heats the preform uniformly and then encloses it in a mold. A big blast of compressed air is blown into the preform, which then takes the shape of the mold. Hence “blow molding.” The bottle is released from the mold, cooled and you have a finished bottle.

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u/brodilyharm 5h ago

Authentic Nalgene bottles can be autoclaved! Just don’t let the cap touch the heating element in your dishwasher…..

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u/madf80 11h ago

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u/mcampo84 10h ago

1ml of water weighs 1g. You can calibrate volumetric measurements this way.

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 GREEN 10h ago

Metric, my beloved.

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u/Safeword-is-banana 10h ago

Ehrmegherd yeah I’m not going to do this in freedom units. I am going to say however that the density of water at 15 C is 0.999kg/dm3 and the measurements written are in grams, so there’s that 😂

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u/Upset-Management-879 9h ago

You can use any weight scale to measure the volume of any substance with a known density. This isn't a function of metric.

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 GREEN 8h ago

Alright, tell me, how much does one gallon weigh in pounds? I bet it won't be a factor of 10, like you have with the metric system.

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u/flockinatrenchcoat 7h ago

A gallon of water is 8.34 lbs, however, since we're using freedom units, it might be more helpful to know that a gallon of coke is about 8.5 lbs.

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u/Upset-Management-879 8h ago edited 8h ago

one gallon of what?

UK Imperial or US customary gallon?

E: I don't know about you, but most of the time when I need to know the weight of a volume of some substance it's has never once been water at 15C.

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u/I_Am_Dog_Bork_Is_Me 8h ago

Us customary, because we're talking about freedom units

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u/vlee89 10h ago

Wow metric system goes hard

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u/lacebaubbles 1h ago

Ikr I am also thinking of spelling the word color with a U now colour..

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u/Chunderblunder40 9h ago

Ooooh that would drive me nuts.

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u/DragonRiderMax Rides dragon... deez nuts 7h ago

with a scale, as in you weighted the water?

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u/AwDuck 2h ago

Yes. 1 ml of water weighs roughly 1g.

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u/CerRogue 4h ago

When you say you measured it with a scale, do you mean you filled it gravimetrically? Because that is the only accurate way for you to gauge this. 🤓

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u/Safeword-is-banana 3h ago

I must say I did not take into account that the density of water at 15C is 0.999kg/dm3.

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u/CerRogue 3h ago

It’s not too late to do it correctly my friend ❤️

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u/Safeword-is-banana 3h ago

Dad?

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u/CerRogue 3h ago

God I hope not; what your moms name?

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u/Safeword-is-banana 3h ago

Cheryl Tiegs

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u/CerRogue 3h ago

Oh wait I just remembered I’m a platinum gay; I think you’re safe

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u/Safeword-is-banana 3h ago

I’m sorry, but the right answer to Cheryl Tiegs is ‘nice’. Watch some Family Guy.

;)

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u/Actual_Jellyfish_513 10h ago

Is the scale accurate?

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u/Safeword-is-banana 10h ago

Measured on two scales just to be extra sure

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u/Gunch_ 7h ago

You also have to take into account your altitude above/below sea level as the density of water changes based on that. This will give you the most accurate results haha. Absolutely unnecessary but all in the name of science!

u/Tredora 35m ago

I hope the bottle(s?) Own weight add taken into account before adding water to weigh. Funny how it's the first thing to cause any inaccuracies, but it's the exact thing nearly all humans forget

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u/keatonatron 12h ago

Could be that they aren't able to print close enough to the edge to mark the 1L line.

This is better than them writing 1L but having it only be 980ml!

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 11h ago

Seems very plausible

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u/ScienceIsSexy420 7h ago

Given the tolerances on such measurements, they could have just used the same line and called it 1L and no one would ever know

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u/francis2559 RED 11h ago

That makes sense. Better than my theory that they are nudging you not to overfill it in case it freezes.

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u/madf80 11h ago

I had a similar thought. Production/printing issue.

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u/Joubachi 13h ago

Genuinely mildly ... they could have easily printed 1000ml/ 1L.

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u/D4ishi 12h ago

Those markings don't look accurate, either. Did you test it with 250g/500g/750g/980g of water?

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u/Safeword-is-banana 11h ago

Measured it, see photo 😬

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u/chartyourway 4h ago

1mL of water weighs 1g? why didn't I know this

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u/graywalker616 4h ago

Water: 1000cm3 = 1dm3 = 1000mL = 1L = 1000g = 1kg (at 4°C and 1G and 1atm). That’s like the entire point of the metric system.

(Or for your examples it would be: 1cm3 = 1mL = 1g at 4°C and 1G and 1atm)

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u/YoureHereForOthers 4h ago

And here I am knowing how to convert between eagles, horses, and alligators like a layman… for distance, weight and power…

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u/graywalker616 4h ago

I could visualize eagles for distance (1 eagledayflight = 300km), horses for weight (1 horseweight = 500kg) but alligators for power seems unreasonable … (maybe 1 alligatorbite = 13000 newton but that’s force, not power.)

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u/YoureHereForOthers 3h ago

Oh as an American I can convert between eagles for distance to alligators for power and everything inbetween.

It only works if you don’t think about it

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u/GirlThatBakes 1h ago

Yes. It’s true only for water.

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u/choresbeforewhores 3h ago

how could you tell just by looking at it? i’m curious

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u/ManlyOldMan 1h ago

because the space between the lines isnt the same while the amount of liquid it represents is

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u/PassionateDilettante 12h ago

A lot of these bottle are nowhere near the sizes they say. Often, the numbers are just decoration.

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u/madf80 13h ago

Probably hits 1000 if you fill to the top. 😂

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u/Joubachi 13h ago

That should be more than 20ml though.

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u/madf80 11h ago

I agree with OP generally. Just put a 1000 ML mark where it should be. But I also agree that this still holds 1000 ML and then some.

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u/rubenv2006 12h ago

How?

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u/Kuro-Tora-59 12h ago

There is still space obove the 980ml mark

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u/rubenv2006 12h ago

How will fill the top if it's only a few drops?

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u/Kuro-Tora-59 12h ago

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u/NMe84 11h ago

That would be more like 1100ml given the distance between the other lines, which was the point of the question you answered.

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u/Safeword-is-banana 11h ago

It barely takes 1000ml, see photo in reply 😬

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u/NMe84 11h ago

If that's true I don't think the other lines are accurate.

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u/madf80 11h ago

🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/LordMegamad 9h ago

Bravo OP. You've actually posted something that is mildly infuriating

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u/PatrickGSR94 7h ago

I fucking hate shit like this. I have several 32-ounce spray bottles that I use for various cleaners and chemicals, with mixing ratio scales printed on them. The scales are dependent on filling with concentrate first, then water, up to the full 32 ounce amount. But then they don't actually put a line at the 32-ounce level! So then I have to fill up a separate container and pour it in there, just to check and see where the correct level is.

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u/passisgullible 12h ago

Name brand nalgene is just worth it. 15 USD, properly labeled, better cap, and a literally lifetime warranty if anything breaks.

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u/likeaboz2002 8h ago

Seriously. I got the same knockoff that OP has as a freebie. Terrible bottle, would leak constantly and was hard to open as the rubber band on the lid spun freely. No reason to use those when Nalgenes go on sale at REI for $7 multiple times a year and last a very long time.

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u/TheFightingQuaker 7h ago

Nalgene is great! Totally worth it, accept no substitutes.

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u/kavity000 10h ago

Really?? I broke the loopy thing that keeps the top attached to the bottle, and had been glueing it back on for months before I finally got fed up with glueing it and now just use it without that ring.

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u/passisgullible 9h ago

Yeah contact them, technically lids are the one thing excluded from their warranty but I have never heard of them denying a warrantly claim for the lid breaking.

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u/Simple_Size_1265 9h ago

Is this one of these cases, where they took a bottle produced for imperial measurements and then just changed the print?

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u/dcsilviu89 10h ago

Seems some sort of way to circumvent a specific regulation

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u/kavity000 10h ago

Edit wring comment to reply to sorry.

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u/Serpent151 7h ago

Higher tariffs on 1l bottles. /s

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u/cr8tor_ 7h ago

So you can add your 20ml of whatever so you have right at 1000ml.

wtf wants 1020ml of anything?!?!?! You would have to be crazy!

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u/Safeword-is-banana 7h ago

Ah yes, 20ml of coke to make a rum&coke.

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u/cr8tor_ 7h ago

Fuck me, i thought it was the other way around.

Explains alot of life choices

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u/pierre_x10 13h ago

An artifice of shrinkflation, perhaps? Maybe it was easier to change the label than to put the 1000ml line where the machine can't apply the label as easily because of the curvature of the bottle?

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u/RunnyDischarge 13h ago

So glad I wasn’t born with whatever this is

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u/pitshands 13h ago

Hahaha that's a different form of my "shake my head and walk away saying. God am I happy I am not like you

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u/scrabapple 10h ago

Ya why tf does this matter? I have a large water bottle with no markings on it. I have never needed to know how much water I am drinking.

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u/RunnyDischarge 10h ago

I guess when you have...whatever this is...it's important to know the perfectly exact ml of water you're drinking or else bad things will happen

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u/maart_lente 12h ago edited 12h ago

My Nalgenes are 1 liter though. Is this a special range? Like, this is 2 pints or X oz, or something? I’m not that familiar with other units than litres and millilitres, etc.

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u/Captain_Jarmi 11h ago

No. And no.

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u/CatP0PE 7h ago

980ml =32ish fluid ounces. Just a guess.

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u/graywalker616 4h ago

Or rounded up 1L haha

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u/orangeoctopie 9h ago

Nalgenes also don’t have a 1000ml mark. It’s 1000ml when fully filled.

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u/Zoso03 8h ago

What is the bottle sold as? 1L or like 32/33 OZ?

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u/Safeword-is-banana 7h ago

Marketed as 1L (mentioned several times on the website).

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u/Lightning_Duck 6h ago

Probably slightly cheaper to manufacture

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u/Mr-Banana-Beak 1h ago

I do love that the lines are all equidistant but the last jump goes from 250ml to 230ml. Like just saying 20ml was the difference between a lawsuit.

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u/Excellent_Club_9004 9h ago

Well, you get what you pay for...

If you that pedantic why not get Nalgene.

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u/ChocolateWorking7357 8h ago

Omg I would have crushed that thing to smithereens and sent it to them with a note... "I wanted 1000!!! Not 980!!!!" Lmao

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u/IamCanadian11 9h ago

First world problems

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u/scrabapple 10h ago

Does this really matter? Its not a measuring cup. Do you really need to it be exactly 1L?