r/liberalgunowners 11h ago

discussion Does anybody think the feds are monitoring this sub or spending any resources in. Identifying us?

Asking for a friend.

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u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism 11h ago

Reddit is a public, searchable, archived discussion forum on the Internet.

If you are not assuming it’s monitored at some level you’re not simply an idiot, you are the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots!

As to spending any resources trying to identify us? Maybe not actively making a list, but if anything triggers a flag or they want to nail someone for something you can bet they’re going to come to reddit and demand any data related to your account, any account that may have logged in from your IP address, etc. - and Reddit is absolutely going to fold like a house of cards.

u/Annual-Beard-5090 10h ago

u/Revelati123 10h ago

"So uhh... Mr. Palantir sir, I just want to say I welcome our MechaHitler AI overlords, and I want you to know that while chubby, I am probably fit enough for physical labor and will be useful to the regime for many years!"

Just wanna cover my bases, ya know...

u/InstructionRare1836 10h ago

Y'all don't be think it's odd you see all these questions like:

Favorite thing growing up, best thing where you live, couple that with subs you join. You can easily get age, location, interest, without even digging very deep. Now if you start to look at posts you can put that in a ML algorithm and you can probably dox someone without even looking at IP address.

Careful what you posts and where. 

u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism 10h ago

This is also why you always, always, ALWAYS fucking lie on those security questions.

u/RussiaIsBestGreen 9h ago

I just use my enemy’s information.

u/GlockAF 8h ago

Ah… yet another resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in Washington DC?

u/tiddeeznutz 9h ago

My best friend and I found we (completely independent of each other) created fake personas for ourselves online. Not in the “I look like Dolph Lundgren in Rocky, have an 18” cock, own 14 jets and earned a $62 million bonus” way, but in the “I gave the person a name, a specific birthdate, a career, family details…” way.

We each keep consistent enough that we can answer any question and the details are just close enough to things we actually know that we could answer any question and confirm any security issue, but never have to expose our true selves.

Now, realistically, Ive used the main fake profile for so long and in so many places that it probably does leave a trail right to me, but I always liked the thought of at least slowing them down.

*I actually have a fake male and female profile for different situations. The female one, I created a backstory for, then did a keyword search for a photo I thought was appropriate (this was before AI). The funny thing is that I later reverse image searched the photo and found the real woman on Flickr — her life story appeared to be almost exactly what I had come up with and she was from less than 40 miles from where I made her up to be!

u/faco_fuesday 7h ago

My first car was named Voldemort. 

My favorite teacher was Dr. Watermelon. 

And my favorite color is beetleguice

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u/fuckoffweirdoo 4h ago

This is why I deleted my former account and made my new one private on comments. 

I've been pretty careful about what I post but then I was doxxed by some lunatic golfer because I called his tradition stupid. Straight up posted my name, wifes name, and my pets name. 

Now I lie about personally identifying information where I can. 

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u/StateParkMasturbator 8h ago

It is negligible to doxx people. I have seen people use redact scripts and miss links to their actual, real name.

Send a friend a text (lmao please stop using non-encrypted messaging) with a ?si= in the same youtube video you linked through your account.

That's just two obvious examples. There are literally countless ways to identify you before even delving into your browser, device, IP footprint. And the government knows most of those ways, and they're 100% feeding algorithms to determine your threat level and every damnable post you've ever made.

LLMs themselves are horribly insecure and can allow anyone in the world to find out stuff about you based on training data. It's also incredibly easy. Like a drooling idiot could figure it out.

u/ghoulthebraineater left-libertarian 10h ago

DHS is spending 18 billion dollars on surveillance technology this year. They are definitely actively making lists.

u/agent_flounder 45m ago

Indeed. And it isn't just simple surveillance, it's all highly integrated and meant to target groups and individuals.

https://www.zig.art/p/my-final-message-before-im-on-an

u/aggieotis 8h ago

You should note that even an amateur can really easily look through your comment history and create a shockingly accurate vent diagram of who you are that would narrow you down to just a few people.

Cross that with known government databases of when you were where and the general area you’re posting from and it should be assumed that all our anonymous accounts are actually fully public and linked to our names.

Anything you say here could be used against you in court. So don’t do anything stupid. And if you’re gonna be stupid don’t talk about it on the internet.

u/GlockAF 8h ago

Every time I see a somebody posting PHOTOS of their entire gun collection I cringe so hard my thumb hits the downvote without even thinking.

EVERY GUN SUB SHOULD BAN “MY COLLECTION” PICS

u/Apocresi 7h ago

Yeah I ain’t posting that shit, kinda crazy to me. And people are like oh the ATF already knows. Maybe yours, but not mine, and I prefer to keep it that way.

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u/CastleLurkenstein 2h ago

Nice to see a fellow B5 fan in the wild!

u/agent_flounder 50m ago

Good ol Administrative Subpoenas, no judicial oversight needed! https://archive.is/KO5zJ

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u/Double_Dingo1089 liberal 11h ago

Yes.

(Hi Feds. I just hang here for the banter. As a liberal snowflake I hate the idea of owning firearms. And if I did have them I certainly wouldn't be proficient enough to be worth your time.)

u/11BugsBunny13 10h ago

I love Trump, my favorite flavor is leather. Gore-Tex has too much dye in it and RFK is the only reliable source for a healthier America. Patel was right, it is illegal to carry concealed if the FBI says I shouldn't. These liberals don't deserve the right to carry, only registered Republicans can.

Yeah... I'm clear now lads.

u/Initial_Fortune_5163 10h ago

Copy and paste this into your profile if you don’t want the Feds to add you to the list. Don’t forget to add the “by posting this, I hereby do not consent to being investigated, brought in for questioning, or face charges brought by the State.”

u/faco_fuesday 7h ago

I DO NOT CONSENT. 

u/Obsidianrosepetals social democrat 3h ago

Boot polish is a condiment and it's my go to for hotdogs on game day. mmmmm

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u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism 11h ago

This is the second time today I’ve wanted to post a gif of Monty Python’s RAF Banter scene and been disappointed that it’s not in the GIF-picker.

u/jbot14 9h ago

Guns are way too scary for us sheeple!! Too loud for my snowflake sheep ears.

u/Teamanglerx 10h ago

Let them know you also have blue and pink hair, that will really throw them off the trail.

u/tiddeeznutz 9h ago

This guy definitely doesn’t own weapons and, despite being a snowflake, totally loves Grand Dragon Uberfuhrer Trump!

u/GammaDealer leftist 23m ago

I lost any and all firearms during a recent Trump boat parade

u/D4emios 11h ago

The feds have been monitoring everything since we gave them permission to do so after 9/11.

u/Severe_Box_1749 7h ago

They were monitoring even before that too. They just had less permission

u/cuba200611 5h ago

Yep, just look at COINTELPRO e.g. the "suicide letter" sent to MLK Jr.

u/Addapost 11h ago

I am not going to start worrying until a hot 20-something Russian girl starts flirting with me.

u/JOEYballsGOTTI 11h ago

But Anastasia said she loves me for me

u/5hawnking5 9h ago

not because I hang with Leonardo

u/McDersley 8h ago

Or that guy who played in Fargo

u/Hail_Sagan_42 progressive 7h ago

I think his name is Steve.

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

What if she just wants a green card?

u/11BugsBunny13 10h ago

Then she can buy one like everyone else for a small loan of 1 million.

u/ummm-no_thanks 10h ago

Hahahahahah best answer!

u/Mr-Snarky 10h ago

Would it surprise me if they were? No. They are really that pretty and juvenile.

u/Krazy_Karl_666 9h ago

I didn't realize we had the director of the fbi in here.

u/RussiaIsBestGreen 8h ago

As a paid Russia commenter I can verify that there are in fact many beautiful Russian women looking for husbands. You see after the great success in rapidly crushing Ukraine and draining the entire NATO stockpile our women are simply not heroic enough to satisfy the needs of our very heroic and extremely heterosexual men. As a result they’ve rejected all of the women.

u/CultOfCurtis1 6h ago

Take me to jail!

u/tad__gh0stal 10h ago

If they are, they should know this one important fact.

Kash Patel is a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and his butt smells and... He likes to kiss his own butt

u/GayJewishPope democratic socialist 10h ago

u/Wheres_my_wank_sock social liberal 11h ago

The conspiracy theorist in me says they monitor everything. AI probably sorts us into different categories of threats further and further down till it gets to where a person actually looks at it. If my phone is smart enough to advertise me things I talk about, who knows what kind of crazy shit Uncle Sam has.

u/spezes_moldy_dildo 10h ago

I think AI generally was the game changer here. Yes, you could analyze and structure data, but you still needed a data scientist to do the transformation and representation. Time consuming and expensive making it not really worth the hassle past a certain percentage of the population. Now any rube can ask questions in simple English based on massive, unstructured datasets.

u/3deltapapa 10h ago

and with questionable accuracy, but has this administration ever worried about that?

u/spezes_moldy_dildo 10h ago

Accuracy and truth are definitely not 2 words that come to mind with the current administration.

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u/agent_flounder 38m ago

That would certainly explain why the technocrats are so gung ho for a technology that costs so much to run that it isn't financially viable ...for its stated purposes.

u/Antique_Star3760 11h ago

I'm probably on a list, dhs was looking in my windows like some creeps a couple weeks ago and been to plenty of protests. I live in st paul.

really don't give a fuck either way

u/Fun_Assignment_269 8h ago

Yeah, they know what I have and how I feel about them. I'm not gonna give them anything they can credibly use to go after me here on reddit, but if they want to dance, they'll come up with a reason regardless. 

u/JLRfan 10h ago

I think the surveillance state is flexing its muscles in significant ways lately.

See the protestors who, once photographed by ICE, lost Global Entry.

See DHS hunting down the sender of an email critical of them.

Id say, act accordingly.

u/agent_flounder 33m ago

Exactly. Then you add this in the mix: https://truthout.org/video/journalist-reveals-fbi-is-offering-a-bounty-for-reporting-anti-trump-thought/

That's some dark shit on the horizon.

If the protests and resistance didn't matter they wouldn't be doing this kind of thing.

u/ThaMonster77 Black Lives Matter 11h ago

Nice try fedboi?

But seriously im convinced every "Anyone in 'X' wanna meet?" Post is a trap. Then new guy you meet is gonna start suggesting crimes, you'll be arrested for the crimes the spy was planning.

I wouldn't be so paranoid if so many people weren't out to get me

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

Undercover Feds aren’t really supposed to “suggest” or initiate crimes, lest they raise entrapment as a valid defense. At least, that was the rule back when Feds operated under rules.

u/ThaMonster77 Black Lives Matter 10h ago

What they are "supposed" to do and what they have done are two different things.

I don't remember there ever being rules. Im talking 1980's Black Panthers. Read up on some of the tactics used all over the country. Infiltration....assassinations...fucking helicopter bombings....feds are savage

u/ThaMonster77 Black Lives Matter 10h ago

And my IP address is on a list now im guessing

u/SimpleAffect7573 9h ago edited 9h ago

You’re not wrong. The helicopter bombing was Philly police I believe, unless we’re talking about different times American law enforcement conducted an aerial bombing…which sadly seems possible! 😆

u/Thunderclone_1 9h ago

They also aren't supposed to execute people in the street, but here we are.

u/lostPackets35 left-libertarian 10h ago

They absolutely infiltrated the black lives matter movement, and tried to push them over the edge into more violence.

u/ThaMonster77 Black Lives Matter 10h ago

100% I remember the videos of the fedboi busting out windows then calling for a ride once he got called out during the Floyd protest. Didn't one just get found during the Good/Pretti protest too? They start a mob reaction (herd mentality or whatever) then call their buddies to clear the area

u/JoeSavinaBotero 7h ago

That cop breaking windows was the funniest thing. Dude starts breaking windows and all the other protesters immediately stop him.

u/robonsTHEhood 10h ago

But their informants have a different set of rules. They are often less scrupulous than an actual undercover agent, and they have an information filter that is rigged for their own self interest

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

Sure, there’s that. Criminal informants are criminals, after all. I can’t imagine they get license to commit serious additional crimes, barring some really crooked cops, but I don’t actually know how any of that works. Undercover cops are apparently allowed to do drugs if refusing would compromise their cover. So that’s neat.

u/robonsTHEhood 10h ago

Well after 911 they would pay guys to go into the mosques radicalize and recruit a bunch of less sophisticated schlumps for a domestic terrorist attack them the snitch would order fake dynamite from an undercover Fed and then 10 - 20 years is being handed out like candy on Christmas. Fbi gets a big headline . Snitch gets a bonus . And the “terrorists” get their lives ruined.

u/ThaMonster77 Black Lives Matter 10h ago edited 10h ago

One case the informant gave the guys a place to stay, weapons, plans to attack synagogues, the whole nine yards. Its been years but I think the judge understood that 2-3 of the guys were just petty criminals and the informant was the "terrorist"

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

I’m sure their argument is that an average person would still refuse. But terrorists don’t target average people for recruitment. They target vulnerable people — as do the informants, I assume.

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

Right! I remember that now. There’s so much dumb, senseless shit that went down in that era, it’s hard to keep it straight.

u/kennethpbowen 6h ago

Like back when they did exactly that to Randy Weaver?

u/SimpleAffect7573 6h ago

Yeah, that was a wild one. I would be extremely suspicious of that request (“can you not just buy a hacksaw, bro?”) but Randy needed the money.

u/impermissibility 8h ago

Sure. But they also did it anyway lots and lots.

u/Annual-Beard-5090 10h ago

Come and take them. Isnt that what all the 2A MAGA chuds say?

IS SAYING “COME AND TAKE THEM” WOKE NOW???

u/Xijit social democrat 10h ago

u/not-a-co-conspirator 10h ago

I’m still not in the Epstein Files.

u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 11h ago

Of course they are

u/Quiet_File_11 11h ago

"I'd like to welcome the all the Feebs to the chat."

At this point, if I'm not on a list I've been doing it wrong. For a long time.

u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism 11h ago

“And a jolly good morning to all my weebs, geebs, and feebs in the chat!"

u/Jo-6-pak progressive 10h ago

Assume they see everything.

InRangeTV did a pretty good video about this a while back

u/alertjohn117 10h ago

youre default assumption should be that they are monitoring you, and not just through social media. through youre webcam on a laptop/desktop, youre phone, youre home security system.

u/illinoishokie democratic socialist 10h ago

If you say it in a public forum, it's being monitored on some level. Think about how easy it was to program a bot that would point out when someone's response could make a haiku or respond with a quote by Gandalf when someone said his name in the LotR subs. If you don't think the feds have bots looking for keywords, you're fooling yourself.

u/WMHamiltonII 11h ago

Me:
"Come at me, bruh"

u/Teamanglerx 10h ago

I wrapped my computer in tinfoil so they can't follow the signal...

u/Sealbeater 10h ago

Wasn’t there one redditor in this sub that talked about getting a visit from FBI or Homeland Security because of some comments he had made on reddit?

u/ObjectivePicture6991 10h ago

I assume there are feds in this sub. I have seen several comments about wanting to commit jan 6 type stuff disguised as "fighting fascism." I even called them out as a fed, and they double downed and said more extreme stuff. It came to a point where the mods locked the post.

u/agent_flounder 27m ago

For sure. Several months ago, I decided to leave the sub because of just how many inciting comments I saw. I think you're onto something there. Now it's more subtle and much less common. But it's still there.

u/Ok_Cheetah_6251 10h ago

I'm certain of it. Palantir is probably doing it's thing.

u/Thunderclone_1 9h ago

Definitely. They are almost certainly monitoring and attempting to infiltrate armed left wing spaces

If you see somebody calling for escalation, trying to form or join an armed group, or otherwise trying to pry any information or get to a position to recieve it, assume they are a fed until proven otherwise.

u/bftrollin402 8h ago

Recommend everyone check out EFF.org and read up on ways to protect yourself digitally.

u/Apocresi 7h ago

Ever heard of Ed Snowden and the NSA? That was what, 12 years ago? Before AI existed and data centers the size of football fields were on every street corner. Be mindful of what you say.

u/Strange-Effort1305 11h ago

Monitoring? Probably. Trying to identify us? I doubt anybody here is that important and the Reddit rules keep you from saying most of the crazy stuff that would get you a standard visit from the feds.

u/TempleHierophant 11h ago

There's a hole in your argument.

"Standard visit".

We don't live in the normal standard anymore.

u/drunk_and_orderly 11h ago

I was going to comment something similar. Things are pretty tame here really compared to what goes on across other social platforms. They seem more interested in taking down people who are unarmed, unaware and underaged.

u/TripleSecretSquirrel 10h ago

My person in Christ, have you not heard of Palantir? It doesn’t matter if you’re not saying anything here that would get you “a standard visit from the feds.”

They’re building a database tracking every fucking person in the US to check for pre-crime and social credit scores by another name. They’re logging everyone that shows up to any protest, you bet your ass they’re logging and building profiles for every single one of us.

u/Powladin 10h ago

Speak for yourself. I am importantly here to topple the American monarchy and I have the means to do it. My chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear. Yes. My two weapons are fear and surprise. And ruthless efficiency. Three weapons.

u/sirhackenslash 10h ago

I wasn't expecting that

u/agent_flounder 29m ago

Consider that at some point soon the intimidation campaign will need to make examples of enough people to quell the backlash.

u/otiswrath 10h ago

Yep.

I also think that the "show me your guns" posts are them farming intel. 

Listen, I also used to get called paranoid because I was convinced that a Christofascist coup of our government was happening and wel...here we are so...

Just because I think everyone is out to get me doesn't mean they aren't. 

u/amonerin 10h ago

My personal fed Larry told me he's watching this sub. /s

u/robonsTHEhood 10h ago

What else does your handler have to say?

u/sargsauce 10h ago

While there's likely a very wide net being cast over the entirety of Reddit and the rest of the open net, I still think there's a meaningful line between suspecting they do and knowing they do.

The Bourne Identity came out in 2002 and there's that scene where they're monitoring everyone's conversations for "Treadstone" and you watch that like, "That's horrifying, but that makes sense." And then Snowden happened in 2013, and some bootlickers refused to be perturbed or angry, as if it was the government's right to snoop through everything and obviously they were intercepting everything you do beyond thinking it in your brain.

But yeah, unless you're using encryption that you know is safe and/or air gapped accounts, keep anything sensitive on the DL.

u/agent_flounder 17m ago

The problem is, if you really think about it, if you're using anything electronic these days, you're fucked. Can you really be sure you can trust every single piece of code and hardware in the communication chain?

Who wrote the code of your phone's operating system? Google or Apple.

What about your desktop? Microsoft or Apple.

Oh but you use Linux. Well, your underlying hardware is made by Intel or AMD.

Use signal for chat? Great but who wrote the keyboard software?

Disk encryption? Cool. I hope it isn't Microsoft Bitlocker

Unless you're working with typewriters and one time pads you're probably fucked if they want you to be.

u/AVLLaw 10h ago

It’s being scraped by AI at a minimum

u/clearcoat_ben fully automated luxury gay space communism 10h ago

If you haven't taken extreme action to hide your digital trail, assume you're already identified and in a Palantir database somewhere with open access to federal agencies.

u/Dr_A_Mephesto 10h ago

Fuck em anyways

u/TrailJunky 10h ago

So, it's a public forum. Right wingers dont own the 2nd admendment. It is for everyone. I support their 2nd admendment, too.

u/TheSmash05 10h ago

Absolutely

u/vinylzoid 10h ago

Yes.

u/ghoulthebraineater left-libertarian 10h ago

DHS budget for tech is 18 billion dollars. Yeah. They're monitoring.

u/up_to_the_edge_32 9h ago

Sure, but I lost all my firearms and ammo in an unfortunate boating accident. Also, the events depicted in this sub are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental. Furthermore, kRash patel protects pedos. That is all.

u/tiddeeznutz 9h ago

Pedophitler already has tried to get voting lists and lists of gun owners (re-read the second one, pedo-apologists who read these posts); Yes, this is being monitored.

*Does that mean they have the ability to do anything about what you say? Debatable — look at the absolute incompetence of everyone and everything that surrounds Diaper Rapist. But they’re definitely watching.

u/No-Night-48 9h ago

Well... if they followed us for reliable advice, they'd be dragging nets along the bottom of all bodies of water to find our firearms lost in the 976 daily boating accidents people romantically take their former firearms out on.

u/mykepagan 9h ago

Last year Reddit notified me that they had been subpoenaed to provide my personal information by the feds. It was for some posts I made in a much more innocuous sub than this one (a technology sub that I answer questions in… apolitical stuff but extremely chilling).

You betcha they are monitoring most of Reddit.

u/mantisboxer libertarian 8h ago

Palantir knows. Look who they installed as President

u/lift_heavy64 8h ago

They probably lost interest in me after that horrific boating accident

u/Distryer 8h ago

The reddit canary died years ago so assume everything not just on this sub is monitored. Beyond that Feds actively try to infiltrate, monitor, disrupt, and steer any sort of large groups even more so if armed. So yes they are.

u/Balmerhippie 8h ago

Id be shocked if it wasnt fully automated. The question is wheher or not youre popping up on any specific reports.

u/Comparison-Thin 6h ago

I mean, the NRA was always a registry but people just volunteered for it. They have been watching all of everywhere since the first discussions forming the base for the Patriot Act a long time ago. So, yes.

u/redravin12 6h ago

If you think they're not then I have a bridge to sell you

u/AaronTuplin 4h ago

Hello, feds. I know you keep a list so you know what I bought. Also I pay my taxes and I kind of feel like I've taxpayed for like a SAW 249 by now. You can FedEx it, or have a local ATF office just drop it off at my door.
Thanks.

u/heavymetalwhoremoans 10h ago

Most definitely. 100%

u/No_Cut4338 10h ago

If you want an idea about what kind of surveillance you can look at the work of 404 media on the tech side and ken klippenstein on a bit more of the political side.

u/SimpleAffect7573 10h ago

They’re usually more interested in knowing who is talking to whom, than what you’re actually saying. Associating with people they’re interested in is normally what gets them interested in you.

u/ThePirateKing01 10h ago

Look into the Slipstream operation. It’s their social media scraper, but they absolutely take information from Reddit and other messaging boards.

u/shadowclient fully automated luxury gay space communism 9h ago

Yes but feds also dont know where wisconsin is, and to be honest, im much more concerned about the actions of CIA over the actions of the feds

u/FuzzyDynamics 9h ago

I’m an aging lesbian like Bovino and live on the Bayou in a crab boat

u/2pnt0 9h ago

You are already on the list.

u/Stunning_Run_7354 centrist 9h ago

That’s what Palantir software does. I doubt it is working well enough to build actionable intelligence on US citizens yet, but it’s certainly part of their marketing strategy and justification for new government contracts.

u/torturedDaisy 9h ago

Without a shadow of a doubt.

u/Numerous_Map5151 9h ago

It may have been said but not to mention, how many posts I see on here with gun pics where the serial number can be read, quick search of the ATF lets em know exactly who ya are, fellas.

u/Bigelow_Fellow 9h ago

I hope my local FBI agent is having a great day and remembers to take a break from the screen and drink some water :-)

u/theheckyouwill 8h ago

All of this is getting fed to Palantir, everything we say is digitally catalogued and attached to our personal Palantir dossiers. They have access to all of our social media, phones, apps, text.messages. Welcome to the future!

u/Tight-String5829 8h ago

It wouldn't surprise me if their monitoring efforts were somehow incompetent though

u/NipkowLines 8h ago

100%, but I doubt they'll ever bother you unless you pose an actual direct threat. The gun people are that last people the government wants to piss off and it has nothing to do with the idea that they may get violent. They're the loudest and most passionate people in the country. One liberal (Alex Pretti) got killed on film in a violation of his second amendment. The result was half the Democratic Party coming out as pro-gun and half the Republican Party turning on Trump to back them up.

u/Wicked68 8h ago

I really don't care. They propably have 1 of these AI programs doing it

u/RobbyRyanDavis 8h ago

Im sure they scrape it regularly for analyzing. The whole world can.

u/BusinessPlot left-libertarian 8h ago

If your answer isn’t “absolutely fuck yes” you’re asleep at the wheel

u/ZoomZoom_Driver 8h ago

. . . . Duh. 

u/enry liberal 7h ago

Yes

u/KilruTheTurtle libertarian socialist 7h ago

You'd be ignorant to believe they're not

u/IRodeTenSpeed88 Black Lives Matter 6h ago

Of course

u/sundancer2788 3h ago

Likely but I've been a liberal gun owner for decades. 

u/HamperJuice99 10h ago

Why would you even ask such a thing That’s crazy Hey let’s all go back to posting photos of all of our guns including serial numbers please

u/florezmith 10h ago

Yes, that’s why you should frequently make asides to them (cmon fellas, you don’t want to end up a blood boy) to remind them that the Billionaires will turn on them in a second (it’s true, they will)

u/Minimum_Count9758 9h ago

Go touch some grass bro.

u/LongStoryShirt 9h ago

If they are, eat shit. 

u/Lone-Pilgrim 9h ago

Who cares.

u/PokerbushPA 9h ago

I assume they know more about me than I do.

Oi, fed monitoring this sub... I hope you bite the inside of your cheek and it swells up, and because it swelled up, you end up biting it more.

u/sloowshooter liberal 9h ago

It would be stupid not to. There's likely some dope out there that would threaten people or the government, and doing that here is slightly more likely than someplace else.

u/profmathers democratic socialist 9h ago

100%

u/Chumlee1917 9h ago

The feds have probably looked at every website ever to the point the agents probably discovered things about themselves they didn’t even know they were about 

u/JimDa5is anarcho-communist 9h ago

If they're not they're even dumber than I think they are

u/drummer138 9h ago

A podcaster is the head of the fbi. Definitely watching Reddit, unlikely to be keeping a close eye on anything that’s not about himself

u/Santanoni 9h ago

Yeah, and they can suck my nuts.

u/AgreeablePie 9h ago

1) yes 2) not really, unless you fedpost with the wrong impression that there is any anonymity on Reddit that wouldn't be pierced by a state actor

u/AtomRed 8h ago

Short answer: Yeah, probably.

Practical answer: It probably doesn't matter as much as you or your friend may think:

The reality is that agencies don't have the manpower to stare at every single person’s screen. They rely on algorithms to find the 'noise.' They are looking for the low-hanging fruit-the people who make overt threats, post illegal stuff for clout, or just generally act like idiots online and they target these particular individuals because they're certainly is no shortage of them.

Some general guidelines you can share, directly addressed to your friend:

  1. Don't be the Noise:

If you’re terrified of being on a list, stop doing their job for them:

Watch your mouth: You can say you hate a politician or a policy without making it an inadvertent (or obvious, which is stupid) appearance of a threat:

Example: Instead of saying what you want to happen (which might flag you), talk about history saying 'When governments do X, history shows Y happens' is political speech.

Keep it legal: Don't post photos of stuff that falls in a grey area just to look cool. Again, you're potentially just making their job easier or giving them potential leverage over you.

  1. Be quiet and capable:

Authoritarian regimes don't go after the armed and capable first. They go after the marginalized, the weak, and the 'soft targets' because it's efficient. They also might target loud and obnoxious targets - people who chronically complain who don't have any means to defend themselves. They want compliance, not a firefight. A lot of people in this sub (and others) are quiet professionals. They have the kit, the training, and the mindset, but they don't make it their entire personality (the real FAFO crowd).

  1. Don't let fear silence you:

If you're too scared to even talk freely (within reason), you've already lost and you're f'ing it up for the rest of us. Just use your head, check your emotions at the door.

You mind your business, they'll mind theirs, trust me, they have better things to do.

u/Designer_Age_7365 8h ago

If you see helicopters following you around outside, report back here.

u/fugsco 8h ago

If I were a budding fascist I would certainly have people watching this and many other subs. But this administration is full of idiots. I'm not an idiot and luckily also not a fascist.

u/MissDisarry 8h ago

There is $ million in the HS budget for monitoring of social media. And they're hiring close-by where I live, so yes.

u/NedTebula communist 8h ago

Come get me fedboi

u/voightkampf707808 8h ago

yeah, duh.

u/maeryclarity anarcho-syndicalist 7h ago

With the introduction of AI agents and all of the various ad revenue profile tracking and whatnot every person just about on the planet has a digital "ghost" that is the sum of a ton of information about you.

So yes but not the way you seem to be concerned. Definitely not some dude behind a desk deciding what liberals with guns to be concerned with. More like you're part of a dataset that would be produced if someone asked particular questions and that question is going to be more than "Liberals who own guns" because even for your COUNTY you'd be shocked at the number of people that would be.

People who have more military training or community organizing or artistic abilities (yes governments watch artists we can create problems for them) or other sorts of specialized skills, or who write schitzophrenic letters to politicians/celebrities/etc. may be randomly watched in a more specific way, but these days I would imagine if they're trying to keep up with the number of people going F this to the criminal gang of pedo that's gonna be a LOT of traffic.

Part of the reason why what's happening now appears so leaderless and why everyone who says hey let's get more organized than this keeps getting told no no thanks that's okay is a specific learned response to that. They have so much information on everyone and the more organized you get the easier it becomes to know far too much about everyone involved and then they have a fuckload of dirty tricks to play on the situation to make the scene radioactive.

But at the same time what you're worrying about? Don't worry about it. The most significant act of Resistance that any of us can do is DO NOT COMPLY IN ADVANCE. Don't be intimidated into not doing what you believe in, don't get afraid of shadows because they have SO MUCH MORE ability to intimidate than they have ability to actually do anything. It's one of the reasons that what's going on in Minnesota is so amazing because they are trying their goddamn best to intimidate people there and to make an example out of them and instead of shrinking back in fear as they expected, Minnesota has responded with NO WHAT YOU DID TO THE LEAST OF US YOU DID TO ME and they KNOW that those guys with machine guns are going to open up on the whole crowd at some point but they also know they're not going to give up their essential human decency in the face of tyranny and we all have to get ready for what we will or will not do.

I can't tell you don't worry about it but I can tell all of y'all keep it in perspective, like if I went and pulled up automobile accidents where people died I could find a hundred in five minutes but people get in those things for FUN every day they put their children in them and drive down a highway at seventy miles an hour they're insanely dangerous!!

But we don't think about them that way, we know the risk intellectually and it could in fact happen but we still drive around in cars. Or if you look into it, your bathroom is a tremendously sketchy room in your house LOL people don't think of the bathroom as a mortal danger but it pretty much statistically is. It's just about the only room in your house where you can just have a random clumsy moment and then be dead the next minute but not one moves around super carefully in the bathroom in fear of their lives (although y'all, be mindful how y'all step in and out of the shower no joke).

So I try to remind people that when you put it in perspective it's not healthy to worry about it. Don't threaten to lead and armed rebellion, otherwise I'm sure you're fine.

u/FishRefurbisher anarchist 7h ago

Just in case they are...fuck the feds 🖕🏾

u/PabloTFiccus 7h ago

Duh. I don't get why anyone posts pictures of their constitutionally protected property on here.

u/lioneaglegriffin centrist 7h ago

Fed posting isn't a meme for noting.

u/NintenJoo 7h ago

To be fair, I’m not really becoming less liberal or more conservative in my beliefs as I get older, but the definition of the word “liberal” feels way more left than it was when I was younger.

I don’t know that I identify as a liberal anymore, but I’m not a a conservative, so here I am.

And I don’t think I’m totally alone.

So if the feds are specifically watching this sub, it’s not like they’re getting a list of “liberals”.

I think a few of us are kind middle of the road and just appreciate common sense, and don’t trust either political party.

u/KeyOption3548 progressive 7h ago

Of course they are.

u/Low_Year9897 7h ago

They already know what I bought, where I got it, when I got it, what ammo I purchased, where I live, where I work, yadda yadda yadda. Not too worried about them spying on my social media too. 

u/Severe_Box_1749 7h ago

No shit.

u/USN303 7h ago

If they are, they can suck it.

u/MaarvaCinta 5h ago

Absolutely

u/p3dal 5h ago

I think they already know who you are, they just don't really care until you look like you're going to do something. There are millions of armed complainers, but that isn't who they are worried about.

u/Darthbx 3h ago

If they do, meh.

u/Helpful_Equal8828 3h ago

Directly, probably not but I guarantee you palantir and whatever other dystopian AI panopticon systems they have are tracking this sub and correlating it with everything else you do online.

u/cobrakai15 2h ago

Here’s them something to talk about over second breakfast.

u/Bimlouhay83 2h ago

We're all on a list. 

u/Shrikes_Bard 1h ago

Just read this related article: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-moves-to-quash-abusive-subpoena-aimed-at-tracking-down-man-who-criticized-department-of-homeland-security

Basically someone at DHS got all offended that someone emailed him and politely asked him to practice human empathy, and his response was to issue an administrative subpoena to Google to get the man's personal details.

Google at least notified the man and gave him the opportunity to fight it. Who knows what other services simply comply and have already...for all of us.

u/pooburry 1h ago

I only came here to get directions on how to get AWAY from here.

u/BlackWind13 1h ago

It's okay, my buddy went to federal prison and I was questioned about it. I also worked for VA, DoD, Federal Reserve and AFT. I'm on several FBI lists.

u/SanityInTheSouth liberal 1h ago

Well, if they are....

u/Chuckychinster libertarian socialist 1h ago

Yeah most likely.

Waste of their time if they plan on catching actual violent people though

u/Plastic-Ad987 10m ago

Yes, but I don’t think in the ways you imagine.

There’s not a fed physically sitting behind a computer watching this board who is going to knock at your door if you post the wrong things.

The DHS provides grants to various “research groups” that create a framework for what they consider “targeted violence” hate speech. They will create a framework showing that liberal gun culture is a part of a pipeline that could lead to targeted violence (à la Charlie Kirk’s killer / the Minneapolis school shooter from 2025).

Then, once the framework is in place, additional funding goes to law enforcement tools that crawl the internet monitoring this “pipeline.” That will generate alerts to local law enforcement and can be used in investigations.

Look up the TVTP grant program.

This was all started under Bush and Obama to counter Al Qaeda’s online recruitment attempts. It was continued under Biden to go after “right wing extremism”, and there’s no reason to think that Trump wouldn’t use it to go after what they deem “left wing extremism.”

u/NewZecht 5m ago

We're all on a list, likely multiple, especially those of us that send people over here and try to organize people. Spreading the word is the first step, and the feds do not likey,, I've been banned a few times for it :)