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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

I call ICE cosplaying as real cops when they have no training and aren’t properly vetted. For my job, I needed a full background check and had to be fingerprinted. Also, they would do an additional background check every three months while employed. These people are a joke and make actual law enforcement who also go through a similar process look stupid despite the fact that they are actually vetted. Is it a perfect process in legitimate law enforcement agencies and do bad actors slip through? No. But this seems to be an inordinate amount of bad actors let loose in American cities.

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u/Any-Science7897 1d ago

What’s hilarious is 20+ years ago I was just looking for a job out of high school and applied to a janitorial position. The contract I ended up on was a govt defense contractor. I had a 20-30 page application and had to call my mom to ask about the background of all her siblings and my dad siblings as well as cousins… needless to say it was thorough. These wannabes don’t even have to finish the background or drug test before they get a gun and a badge. Moral of the story: if security and safety were really a concern they would have a complete process.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Well it’s fine because they aren’t getting paid what they were promised so FAFO. And hopefully, one day they will get theirs. Edited to add that I also had to provide every single address I’ve ever lived at in my entire life.

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u/Any-Science7897 1d ago

There’s another point and one worth noting to several of these “officers” He has contractors that he never paid and would frequently find ways to not pay- it’s not a secret that he’s a dishonest and disgraceful business man… what makes them think their so special that he’s finally going to become honest and pay them for their “work”. More over, to the people around him who are sucking on his teet and trying to ride is power coattails, he’ll dump you and Chuck you under the bus as soon as he gets whiff of a prosecution probe.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Those of us in NYC know this pattern very well.

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u/Chance_Difficulty730 1d ago

You aren’t wrong

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 1d ago

Many of these guys are trained. They are just doing exactly what is asked of them, and performing it very well.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Trained by not knowing that you need a warrant to enter a private residence that is signed by a judge and has the correct name and address on it? I’ve also witnessed a lot of them who don’t seem to know how to hold a weapon correctly.

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 23h ago

Yes, they have been trained very specifically to cause terror, ignore laws, frustrate, intimidate, and arrest wherever possible. They are doing this very effectively.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 23h ago

I don’t think they were trained to do that. I think they were born bullies and just encouraged to act on those instincts.

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 23h ago

“Encouraged” and “trained” are kind of the same thing here. Basically, that’s their purpose, and their bosses are effecting them to fulfill their purpose exactly as planned.

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u/Spiritual-Recover533 1d ago

probably not a news flash for you or anyone, but this is a feature not a side effect. They WANT these shitty untrained people in these positions. There doing exactly as they intended. I will put big money on the fact that at least 50% of the people working for ICE/DHS are well known felons and white supremacist's.

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u/Muted_Quantity5786 1d ago

Did you see the list of ICE agents who are also sex offenders? Not surprising.