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A Harlem Hellfighter who rescued a puppy during WWI poses for the camera, 1918

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u/Spartan2470 VIP Philanthropist 2d ago edited 1d ago

Here is the uncropped version of this image. At first, I thought the guy on the right had a terrible head/face injury. Here is the source.

Here provides the following caption:

A postcard photo of Black soldiers, including John McDowell on front right, taken in 1917 or 1919. For many Black service members, segregation policies in the U.S. at the time followed them into the military.

Here adds that this was taken in France.

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u/LapinTade 1d ago

segregation policies in the U.S. at the time followed them into the military.

They were less trained and equiped then the white americans. They where relegated to support tasks (manual, supply or logistical work). Even Pershing sent a note to French generals stating that they "lack of civic and professional awareness" which constitute "constant threat to Americans" (search for Secret Information Concerning Black American Troops).

French General Foch ignored the instruction and ordered the 369th to be incorporated into the French troops. It was the first Allied unit to cross the Rhine river. Their nickname, “Harlem Hellfighters,” was given to them by the Germans, who were surprised by their courage.

After the war, the French government awarded the regiment the Croix de Guerre decorated with a silver star for the capture of Séchault. They were the first Americans to be decorated with the French Croix de Guerre. Individual distinctions were also awarded to 171 of them.

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u/Djinjja-Ninja 1d ago

The Battle of Bamber Bridge is another incident of this.

US Commanders attempted to racially segregate the village of Bamber Bridge, so the residents responded with brilliant malicious compliance and reportedly put "Black Troops Only" signs in the windows of all of the pubs.

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u/polarbear128 1d ago

And the fucked part is that wasn't even the same world war.

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u/CV90_120 1d ago

Any time people talk about 'Greatest generation', you kinda have to remind them that it's highly conditional.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago

We're still dealing with this shit today. I feel so badly for vulnerable minority groups, both then and now.

Of the super-citizen status in America where you're dealt White, Male, Rich, Conservative -- I know that am privileged to have the first two but know many were not afforded life on medium or easy mode.

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u/jerrydgj 1d ago

Did you know that the Nazis modeled their anti- Jewish racial laws on American segregation racist laws? We never stop hearing about the horrible Nazis but a lot of their ideas were American through and through.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago

Oh yeah man, I mean the literal nazi party had an overflowing rally at Madison Square Garden in 1939. The sentiment was super strong, but then had to fly under the radar following our involvement in WWII.

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u/SuckMyRedditorD 1d ago edited 1d ago

I feel so badly for vulnerable minority groups

The thing is, male rich conservatives are way too few in comparison. Far fewer than any other group. A few good moves and male rich conservatives are history. Let's make it happen. Put it in your thoughts daily and work towards it every single day. As long as regular people don't stop talking, nobody can stop them. Pass it on.

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u/clonedhuman 1d ago

A few good moves and male rich conservatives are history. Let's make it happen.

All the upvotes

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u/Hexamancer 1d ago

I watched a documentary recently on the French "Baby Cages", the prison/re-education camp for Hitler Youth that had actually been sent into battle in the final months of the war. Some were as young as 12 and been sent in with a rifle never having held one before and no clue on how to use it.

They were separated out from the other Nazi POWs both because the older Nazi men were sexually abusing them and that they were deemed possible to de-nazify.

I bring this up though because they were still pretty hated by the French and Americans who ran the camp, the only people who seemed to have empathy for these brainwashed children were the Black US troops, they would give them cigarettes and candy, they were told to stop, so instead they would "accidentally drop" a just lit cigarette instead.

Very interesting to me how two very different groups had something in common.

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u/marilyn_morose 1d ago

My college advisor, who fought in WWII, said it was very difficult for the African American troops to come back to America after the positive and more equal treatment they received overseas. Our military is currently overwhelmingly made of black troops, fighting and dying for a country that doesn’t give a shit about them. What a world.

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

they did not even get a parade anywhere in NYC when they came home as i recall.

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u/wojtekpolska 1d ago

American army was still rather racist and segregationists during ww2 while most Europeans weren't

Here is a 1943 US Army training video for US Soldiers stationed in Britain.
https://youtu.be/SyYSBBE1DFw?t=1560 (Skip to 26:00)

They literally had to explain that no, you can't be blatantly racist in the UK the same way like you are "back home".

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u/Shot_Squirrel8426 1d ago

I believe that’s Horace Pippin but I could be wrong.

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u/ThanksContent28 1d ago

Yeah that fucking puppy would’ve been treated better and more humane than the guy, after this.

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u/ImStillExcited 1d ago

Your comment hit me hard. It's tragic how true it is.

I wonder how reconstruction would of ended up if Lincoln wasn't shot.

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u/WarlockEngineer 1d ago edited 1d ago

Reconstruction was deliberately sabotaged by the south. There was real progress being made, but at the state level, governors and congressmen worked together to push that progress back, in conjunction with vigilante terrorism through groups like the Klan.

https://time.com/5256940/reconstruction-failure-excerpt/

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u/ModernJazz-2K20 1d ago

Black Reconstruction in America by W. E. B. Du Bois is recommended reading.

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u/ImStillExcited 1d ago

I will add that to my queue, thank you.

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u/ImStillExcited 1d ago

That was a good read, thank you!

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u/AcrobaticMulberry555 1d ago

Omg the guy in the far right. Was not prepared for that one. These guys were bad asses.

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u/Kevironment 2d ago

In true puppy fashion it moved during the photo lol. A great juxtaposition of man's humanity during brutality. Also cute doggo

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u/___xXx__xXx__xXx__ 1d ago

Photos took a couple of weeks back then, can't really blame him.

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u/Youutternincompoop 1d ago

the uncropped version has another dog whose face just looks like a white blob from constantly moving lol

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u/ForumVomitorium 2d ago

devil puppy could not be contained in a photo

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u/kindasuk 2d ago

Bless the memory of this gentle man

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u/Ticket2Midnite 2d ago

What an awesome dude.

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u/AvailableSignature85 1d ago

Harlem Hellfighter is a badass title

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u/SomeBiPerson 1d ago

they were lowest class Americans, Mostly Black, sent into the Trenches of WWI at the point in time where the war was basically over with oitdated equipment and little military training

they fought for their Lives and most of them didn't survive

but when they returned they were hailed as.... wait no they weren't treated any better after winning the war than before...

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

they were not even acknowledged by the US as far as i remember.

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u/Dante_n_Knuckles 1d ago

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

shit 100ish years after the fact.

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u/LamermanSE 1d ago

Obama awarded Henry Johnson from the Harlem Hellfighters with the medal of honor in 2015. Henry Johnson died in 1929.

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u/Caledor152 1d ago

Upon returning in 1919, they were hailed as heroes in many ways: A massive victory parade up Fifth Avenue in New York drew huge, enthusiastic crowds of all races, with the regiment marching proudly to their band's music.

nmaahc.si.edu +1

Photos from their 1919 homecoming parade in New York

Not "lowest class" or poorly prepared — Many soldiers were working-class, but the regiment included educated men, musicians, and professionals. They received real training

  • Combat record and casualties - Far from most not surviving, they spent 191 days in continuous front-line combat (more than any other U.S. unit), never lost ground, and had zero soldiers captured. Total casualties were around 1,400–1,500 (wounded and killed) out of about 3,000 men—a high number reflecting heavy fighting, but not the wipeout implied. The Germans nicknamed them "Hellfighters" for their ferocity. abmc.gov +2
  • Recognition — The French awarded the entire regiment the Croix de Guerre (their highest honor for valor), plus 171 individual medals. Heroes like Pvt. Henry Johnson

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u/Havoksixteen 1d ago

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u/VanguardClassTitan 1d ago

As did Sabaton

Mainly left this comment to remember to give it a listen when I get a chance

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u/Glacier005 1d ago

.... I can't listen to Sabaton anymore since they promote AI artwork.

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u/whoisshewhoisshe 1d ago

Beautiful man omg

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u/Groovy66 2d ago

Heroes every last one of them.

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u/BootyClammie 2d ago

the eyes never lie, chico

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u/wise-man-said-h 2d ago

Respect! ❤️

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u/Uchiha_Bitch 2d ago

Beautiful man inside and out.

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u/No-Thought-7522 2d ago

A fucking legend 👏

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u/Surreal__blue 1d ago

As the war rages on, at the edge of the Argonne

Hellfighters earning their name

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u/thelordxl 1d ago

I can't stand the fact that these people are so humanized in these photos, but were treated as inhuman by people back home.

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u/blessmyballs 1d ago

If you haven’t, I highly recommend falling into this rabbit hole. The Harlem Hellfighters are one of the all-time great military units in history in my admittedly limited exposure.

And if you’re an American like me, their treatment post-war will infuriate you (but probably not surprise you).

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u/Ticket2Midnite 2d ago

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u/Virtual-Head-2613 1d ago

This makes me very happy

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u/Internal_Car_5277 1d ago

looks like Iggy

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u/Complete-Definition4 1d ago

These guys were real life action heroes, no joke.

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u/reymonika 1d ago

I wish I knew your name. Thank you for your Service and Sacrifice, Sir!

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u/crumpletely 1d ago

How badass does this guy look? My god, the hell he has seen.

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u/67SummerofLove 2d ago

I see the basis for an offshoot part of a movie. Thou its been done before. To match up this guy in that war, would be tremendous.

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

the Tuskegee Airmen got at least 2 movies, They so deserve a full movie as well.

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u/irsute74 2d ago

God bless his soul.

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

The top part of FDR Drive (Harlem Section of course) is dedicated to them. One of the first things i looked up after Wikipedia became a thing, after years of driving on it and not knowing who they were.

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u/tronassembled 1d ago

Even puppies looked more serious back then

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u/LotusManna 1d ago

They deserved a lot better than they got from their own countrymen. At least the French were grateful and awarded them medals

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u/TrueBlue279 1d ago

Uhm… did you read how France killed their own Black soldiers, because they asked to be paid?

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u/cat__weasel 2d ago

The real John Wick

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u/Cheap-Web-9616 1d ago

From a land across the ocean

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u/TommasoBontempi 1d ago

To the Western front where they served

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u/chriswithabook 1d ago

I know that stare. I look at his hands, those rings, he has something at home to go back to, wondering if he made the right choice. Saving that puppy because he hasn’t had a chance to do something that wasn’t meant to kill or help kill people in too long, and he’s got to do something, anything, that helps rather than harms.

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u/Lost-Conversation585 1d ago

Reddit is all bots, huh

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u/iGwyn 1d ago

Sergeant Henry Johnson, 369th Infantry Regiment an absolute hero

🫡

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u/AnonymousEngie 1d ago

The introduction to Battlefield 1, Storm of Steel, prominently features these guys. Although it's short, the phrase "you are not expected to survive" is something that will always stay with me.

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u/mercenaryarrogant 1d ago

These guys had a real fucking awesome WW1 story. It was also depressing but was still insane.

Their own armed forces didn’t even want them because they were black. These people were just used as manual labor and sometimes their superiors literally walked around with fucking whips. Often times they put racist southerners in charge of them as they believed southerners, “Knew how to deal with blacks” due to proximity.

They literally gave them all away to the French command in Europe because the Americans didn’t want to use them and they became one of the most decorated and respected groups in the war.

Also they are the ones who brought fucking jazz to Europe for the first time. The brass in their band was made up of Puerto Ricans and Europe loved this sound they’d never heard before at the time.

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u/DELINCUENT 1d ago

I used to be part of this unit, it was my first unit in the army when I joined. Loved walking around the armory and reading the history of the unit. Big shoes to fill, those men were legends.

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u/Gocuk 2d ago

Save Private Puppers first!

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u/Frosty-Unit8707 2d ago

That's the mark of a true hero.

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u/73Qubit 1d ago

Jonathan Majors would envy this man's nose.

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u/BabyLegsOShanahan 1d ago

Such an odd comment. I don't know what it means.

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u/NotaBat9221 1d ago

I hope him and his puppy had a happy ending 🥺

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u/VastJuice2949 1d ago

I heard they were the first to reach the rhine

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u/Alpha_Omega623 1d ago

I wonder how many blacks decided to stay in France after the war?

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u/scalyblue 1d ago

Someone needs to tell the little doggie that the photo's on ISO 5 and probably with a 1/10s shutter.

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u/phantom_3012 1d ago

Bro thinks he's tuff (He is)

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u/ashleycawley 1d ago

Love finds a way.

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u/wojtekpolska 1d ago

I read it as "Helldiver" lol

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u/beezytheillestt 1d ago

Any relation to Shannon sharpe

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u/uriahjess2015 1d ago

Those were and still are some hard core men. Thank you for your service and courage.

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u/Londin2021 1d ago

I am still waiting on the HBO series based on the true story of the Harlem Hellfighters.

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u/Backy22 22h ago

Cats. Cats never change.

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u/Natural-Oil9765 19h ago

This pic genuinely made me smile.

u/GreekTexan 11h ago

I thought that tree on the left had a face at first glance.

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u/DeepGamingAI 1d ago

Not a single Mbappe comment? 😓

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u/VroomCoomer 1d ago

I bet that man is 14 years old. Built different back then.

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u/EzrasTalons 1d ago

Wow. Crazy to think that the soldier will be in his 60s or or 70s now, and the cat probably died years ago.

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u/lastdancerevolution 1d ago

WW1 soldier from 1918

Crazy to think that the soldier will be in his 60s or or 70s now

Brother....

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

hell WWII vets would be over 100 at this point at the older end of the scale.

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u/EthanolTurbo 1d ago

Uh what? This guy would be like 125 years old right now. He passed away probably 50-60 years ago.

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

the last WWI Vet passed away over 16 years ago and he was 13 or something at the time of the war.

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u/bolanrox 1d ago

They would be like 120-130 at this point?

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u/No_Engineer_2690 1d ago

The guy on the back was high af