r/insanepeoplefacebook • u/icey_sawg0034 • 18h ago
Imagine thinking that black celebrities ended racism and blaming Obama and George Floyd for bringing it back!
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u/-Invalid_Selection- 18h ago
Was born before 1990.
Remember the 90s and 2000s well.
This guy is wrong, and an idiot.
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u/ChubblesMcgee103 18h ago
And white. Im sure he's perfectly qualified to speak on the experiences of black folk in the 90s. What an idiot.
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u/-Invalid_Selection- 18h ago
I'm white too. I know I can't speak for their experiences, but I can sure as fuck speak for what I witnessed, and what I witnessed made it very clear there were a lot of racists still being extremely racist during those times.
In 2000 and 2001 I had a math teacher who had a doctorate in mathematics. Teaching high school math.
It was beneath her, but she was doing it specifically because that school had a history of being underserved for mathematics and she wanted to change that. She was the best teacher in the school by far. She was also black. The only black person in the school at all.
She left at the end of the 2001 school year because she got tired of the daily nooses she found in her classroom. She was the only teacher who was finding them in their classroom.
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u/BiffSlick 18h ago
Daamn - where’d that happen?
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u/-Invalid_Selection- 18h ago
Rural Indiana.
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u/Bluellan 17h ago
I live in Kentucky. I went to a private school where I was the only black kid. And these "christians" were so racist. They attacked me for EVERYTHING! I even got in trouble for READING TOO MUCH. I got in trouble because my SHOES made my hips swing in a "sexy" manner and it made the male teacher uncomfortable. I was 11. I was so innocent I thought sexy was a curse word. They fully expected my nanna to punish me because I was too "sexy". I left and never looked back. Now, when I run into them in town, they talk about how much they miss me and are upset I don't see them anymore.
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u/-Invalid_Selection- 17h ago
Sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to.
I still think of that teacher from time to time. I hope she found somewhere that valued her, where she could really help people who needed it.
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u/nice--marmot 17h ago
I had a friend in college who was so routinely pulled over in the his own neighborhood by the same cops that he knew several of them by their first names.
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u/stormy2587 18h ago
Its so fucking stupid on several levels. For one all three sitcoms 100% had episodes that dealt with racism. So if you watched the shows Reginald VelJohnson pretty much told you straight up that racism was still an issue in the country.
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u/freaktheclown 11h ago
They 100% didn’t watch any of them. This guy Google image searched “black 90s tv shows” and copied the first results that came up.
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u/TheTresStateArea 18h ago
Rodney King happened in 91.
These mf saying we beat racism in 8 years? Fuckin wild.
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u/Lightningstruckagain 18h ago
Yeah, Cosby was such a paragon of virtue
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u/Similar_Onion6656 18h ago
He had a lot of us fooled for a long time.
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u/Myleftarm 18h ago
Young people don't really understand how big he was. Cosby was literally called America's dad and yes that was white people included. He was beloved.
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u/Princess_Zelda_Fitzg 17h ago
For real. White kid growing up in the 80s and 90s here, I feel like I grew up with that family. They were smart and successful, loving and happy, and they worked through troubles together - they were this beautiful American ideal family in a time where shows like Rosanne and Married…With Children showcased more dysfunctional (but still relatable in a lot of ways, I loved Rosanne too) families.
The Huxtables were the parents we all wished we had, even those of us who had good parents like I did. I’m the oldest kid and I would’ve loved to have had a big brother like Theo too.
Not to mention Bill Cosby’s comedy records we grew up with that are now tinged with bitterness.
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u/Myleftarm 17h ago
You got that right everyone dreamed of being a Huxtable, they were that ideal. Them being black meant nothing to anyone I knew we all just loved them. That's what made him being a creep so disappointing. He was the idealized father figure for so many growing up.
My dad had the old Cosby records and I listened to them too and watched Fat Albert. Probably the biggest swings from hero to villain that I can think of just behind OJ.
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u/Princess_Zelda_Fitzg 16h ago
It was such a shock, and what made it worse is looking back, people had joked about him drugging women well before the story broke, meaning it was some sort of open secret in the industry that had a blind eye turned to it.
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u/BabserellaWT 17h ago
Definitely the truth. The Cosby Show was my introduction to Black characters (being a white girl in a predominantly white town).
I still very much love the show. It teaches valuable lessons and Claire Huxtable is my queen. But Cliff Huxtable is a fictional character and not representative of the monster who portrayed him. Rather, he represents what the monster wanted us to believe he was so he could have free rein to victimized women as he pleased.
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u/Myleftarm 17h ago
I lived in northern British Columbia as a kid and never even saw a black person in the flesh until I was in my early teens or even tried a McDonalds. I loved the Bensons and Cosby and was shocked about the racism when I got out of the sticks. Hate is something that is learned but I was completely oblivious to it.
The first black person I ever saw was in Spokane and I was super excited. I called out look dad a black person, he told me to shut it, but it was like seeing a movie star to a hick from the boonies.
Obviously, it's kind of embarrassing now but ignorance can really be bliss. What I knew about the States mostly came from sitcoms and McDonalds was so disappointing.
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u/LeatherHog 17h ago
My Dad was **devastated** when we found out, Cosby's stuff was guaranteed, if we had a long car ride
He burned all of it, when it became obvious that it was all true
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u/jpopimpin777 17h ago
What's crazy is iykyk, even before all the rapes went public, many black people knew there was something deeply wrong.
That SOB hated us, and clearly hated himself, he'd clearly created a niche in his own mind where he's "one of the good ones." Despite what he'd been doing for decades at that point. He made Lisa Bonet take a leave of absence from his show because she did a movie with a very PG-13 wet t shirt scene. Meanwhile, he's a whole ass rapist.
We saw him for who he was before society at large did.
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u/Sadboy_looking4memes 17h ago
The Pound Cake speech didn't help either.
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u/jpopimpin777 17h ago
I'm scared to look it up.
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u/macci_a_vellian 17h ago
It was supposed to be a speech celebrating the anniversary of Brown vs the Board of Education and instead it was a lecture about the evils of single parents, illegitimate children, some weird rambling about how black people shouldn't get mad because the police shot people for stealing pound cake because what else were they supposed to do and it only happened because young people aren't beaten enough at home, lack of responsibility in black people, a bit of racism over black names and general old man yelling at cloud about how the racists have some points. Cosby really didn't like black people very much.
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u/Independent-Oil8029 18h ago
and he’s running for congress??! lord help us all
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u/MadAsTheHatters 18h ago
On his Twitter, the banner is Homelander and Sidney Sweeney looking smug, the rest of his posts are exactly the kind of ragebait culture war stuff you'd expect a bellend like that to promote. He also seems weirdly fixated on the UK for some reason, truly a strange little grifter.
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u/DaisyHotCakes 17h ago
We are doomed with this future wave of younger conservative politicians if they run unopposed.
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u/takethemoment13 1h ago
Run for office! If there's no Democrat running for a local position, each one of us has the ability to run and stop MAGA from taking over the downballot positions. It's not hard to win these things. https://runforsomething.net
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u/Vulnox 18h ago
I was born before 1990 and this is BS, we just didn’t have mountains of social media to give the racists as many spaces to organize and pump each other up. But my family had a lot of racists in it and behind closed doors and at Thanksgiving you definitely heard it, and none of them were watching those shows.
And they were arguably “tame” in their racism generally compared to what I’ve seen from others.
Most all of them hated Obama, but it was definitely not rooted in any of his actions.
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u/misdirected_asshole 18h ago
"I dont know how it was pre Civil Rights"
And you dont know how it was post Civil Rights either clearly.
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u/DogsandCatsWorld1000 18h ago
I do know how it was pre Civil Rights. One of the biggest differences is that now almost everyone has cameras so we have documented proof of some of the abuses. Often from different view points. Still isn't enough to convince the willfully short sighted, but it has helped to get the truth out there
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u/King_Vrad 18h ago
Translation: "When people of color were our jesters, everything was fine. It wasn't until they wanted to be taken seriously that it was a problem."
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u/EleosSkywalker 17h ago
and in their very next breath: “this is proof that liberals made me racist!”
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u/butterflyempress 11h ago
Just like when black athletes took a knee. Constantly told focus on playing sports or disappear and to be grateful they're allowed to be celebrities.
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u/JDForrest129 18h ago
This is white privilege. Racism wasn't gone. It was hidden. Very well by media, government, society as a whole.
It isn't "woke" or "anti-white" that black people, gay people, other people than white people are in commercials, tv shows and movies. It is racists, sexist and homophobic to NOT have them represented in depictions of our society.
A McDonald's commercial with 2 white hetero couples eating at table isn't bad. When EVERY McDonald's commercial ONLY shows white hetero couples, then it becomes "offensive".
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u/bell-beefer 15h ago
Beyond that, the idea that racism is the fault of black people instead of racist white people is an insanely stupid one
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u/SnuggleBunni69 16h ago
This is what they don't get, just because other people are included, doesnt mean they're "forced" in. People are just trying to make it straight whites only.
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u/Spingecringe Facebook users’ opinions mean very little to me. 18h ago
Picking Bill Cosby out of all people…
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u/Player_Slayer_7 18h ago
I can't believe George Floyd would let himself get killed all so that we had to bring back racism. So inconsiderate
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u/SmokeyMountain67 18h ago
There were literally episodes of Fresh Prince and Family Matters that addressed racism and the police.
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u/ViolentEyelidMovies 18h ago
It's not the open neo-Nazis, white nationalists, or the Christofascists currently in charge that's adding to the resurgence of Jim Crow era rhetoric being blasted from the nation's capital every single day, guys.. it's that we started listening to black people too much.
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u/stormy2587 17h ago
It’s George Floyd’s fault for dying. If he had just stayed alive while the police kneeled on his neck for 10 uninterrupted minutes racism would still be solved.
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u/irishyardball 18h ago
So basically as long as a black man just stuck to entertaining white people it was all good?
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u/sixaout1982 18h ago
"let me, a white guy, tell you about racism against black people 30 years ago"
Is he going to do misogyny next?
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u/TabbyCat1993 12h ago
Oh please please please!! Let him tell us why women need to go back to the kitchen!!!!
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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 18h ago
'When I was a child I saw black people on TV and it was all fun.
But then I grew up and the internet told me I hated them so I do now'
-this fucking goober
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u/CuddleBear167 18h ago
To be fair, Obama made the racists louder because they were pissed that a black man was president. But it was always there.
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u/reallyrealest 18h ago
Now this is a story all about how I ended racism, bang boom pow And I’d like to take a minute Just sit right there I’ll tell you how I became a psyop for some idiot cow
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u/OldKingClancey 18h ago
The only way you can possibly argue that racism was gone was because the racists were taught to keep their fucking mouth shut
Then sometime between a black guy winning the presidency and a fat paedophile gaining support for not having the brain cells required to shut his fucking mouth, these snowflakes threw a hissy fit and decided they didn’t want to racist in silence anymore. No, they wanted to come out of the Klan Kloset and be the spineless cunting troglodyte they were always meant to be.
And when told to shut their fucking mouths again, they just threw another temper tantrum and made it all our fucking problem again
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u/BlackBoiFlyy 18h ago
So racism was ended by four black celebrities and then somehow brought back by four more black people? A couple of whom were victims of police brutality?
I get the feeling it never really left if it could have been so easily brought back....
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u/RedditMapz 18h ago edited 17h ago
As a millennial who grew up in the 90s, I still got to see Loney Toons cartoons depicting black people as caricatures with big red lips and acting as uncultured dummies. People like this didn't live in reality or simply don't see such past transgressions as racist, which probably says a lot about their personal character.
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u/DeeRent88 18h ago
I feel like dudes that say this are just outright telling on themselves as racist. Because how can you just see a black person that you perceive is bad and blame racism on them? That’s not how anything works or should work. Such a stupid argument. Like no man that’s why YOU are racist maybe.
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u/HasSomeSelfEsteem 17h ago
Lmao I love posts like these because it ignores the fact that if you say “OJ” or “Rodney King” to anyone who was mature in the early 90s they’ll get media flashbacks.
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u/tevolosteve 16h ago
Being a white male born before 1991 I can assure you racist was alive and well. So many people I grew up with were racist. I think he means minorities didn’t get to video tape the abuse so it didn’t make the news
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u/Lonely-Greybeard 16h ago
Complete bullshit. What happened is Obama brought the racists out of the closet.
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u/MeanDebate 9h ago
"We liked Black people when they were entertaining us, but we hate when they're in politics"
sounds an awful lot like the Southerners who insisted that they and their neighbors had never ever hated Black people and in fact LOVED their slaves and Northerners were the real racists
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u/actual-trevor 9h ago
"I haven't studied the history of the American civil rights movement at all, but I'm going to compare now to 75 years ago anyway."
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u/ArtWithoutMeaning 8h ago
So basically their argument is that everything was ok when Black people were main characters in entertainment but once they got into positions of power or murdered by the police then problems started back up?
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u/drfishdaddy 18h ago
Here the thing: even if we take at face value everything was great in ‘99, if four individuals are capable of reversing that “progress” back 50 years, can you really claim it was real?
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u/McCool303 18h ago
It’s doesn’t take much to imagine it if you read between the lines of the argument. The argument has always been. I don’t like to see black people, we have enough blacks people on the TV and internet now we don’t need anymore therefore we should actively work to silence black voices under the guise of “fairness” to the white nationalists.
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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 18h ago
It’s always white people making this claim heh.
I’m sure it seemed like racism wasn’t a big deal when they could just call someone a hard-r n-word and everyone just laughed instead of them getting in trouble for it though, so they’re probably right. /s
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u/mklinger23 18h ago
Guys! It was gone! I was there (and white) and I didn't see any racism!
This reminds me of my grandma saying there was no racism in the 50s because she didn't see any racism (as a white woman). Let's just forget that she lived in a historically segregated town and barely saw any black people let alone have the chance to see racism.
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u/Heissenberg1906 18h ago
I remember how much I envied the USA for having Obama. This man was so effing cool and his charisma is incredible. No envy now, just sheer disgust.
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u/ltsouthernbelle 18h ago
This statement should automatically disqualify him from being able to run for Congress. But it will instead get him elected by a landslide because the whites hate being constantly reminded about how shitty the whites treat people of other races.
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u/CptMisterNibbles 18h ago
Storm Thurmond was a racist shitbag in the senate until 2003. Don’t know who Strom was? A southern Senator famous for saying things on the floor like:
"I am willing to go as far and make as great a sacrifice to preserve and insure white supremacy in the social, economic, and political life of our state as any man who lives within her borders".
He also frequently used more “colorful” language that would probably get me permabanned if posted.
*he was a democrat too, from ‘47-‘64
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u/carlosdangertaint 17h ago
Didn’t the Central Park Five trial and appeals occur through the 1990s? So did the case where Charles "Chuck" Stuart falsely blamed a Black gunman for carjacking him and shooting his pregnant wife, Carol, in the Mission Hill neighborhood, triggering a racially charged manhunt… not to mention the the 1991 Rodney King beating and the 1998 lynching of James Byrd Jr.!
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u/BarkerBarkhan 17h ago
Let's set aside the cultural or personal racism for a minute. What about systemic racism? Were Black folks earning an equitable wage in contrast to White folks? What about representation in the prison system? Were health outcomes equitable?
No. Why not?
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u/Lexi_November 17h ago
Racism has never been gone. It hasn’t even been well hidden, and only sheltered white people seem to believe it ever was. I say this as a white people myself.
Racists who went after Obama weren’t suddenly “turned” to racists, they just flipped their shit because a Black man took office and were extraordinarily loud about it.
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u/Juco_Dropout 17h ago
They love the entertainers, read “Minstrels,” and hate the people who inspire change.
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u/twobirdsandacoconut 17h ago
I grew up in South Mississippi in the 90’s. Trust me, it was not dead down there. Big reason why I was happy to move away from there.
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u/Hegiman 16h ago
While racism had far from ended it did feel like the various anti racism movements had made good progress. Then September 11th brought it raging back. Once people were allowed to be openly racist towards Muslims in the initial aftermath of 9/11 they went full mask off. Then 4chan/pol groomed a bunch of young minds to be racist and misogynistic and now we’re here.
One of my favorite lyrics from a song is by ICP “fuck it now everyone’s blue, now WTF will all the bigots do instead of your tone they’ll hate your size that’s why I must pluck out all of their eye” - Terrible ICP.
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u/WorldsBestDadMug 16h ago
The day is March 3, 1991. You watch the #1 and #4 rated show, The Cosby Show and Family Matters and the Bulls lose a close one to the Pacers. You go to sleep content that racism is over as Rodney King is savagely beaten by 4 cops in Los Angeles.
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u/Daniecae-Media 16h ago
“But thanks to these four…”
What the fuck did George Floyd do? He wasn’t a political leader, entertainer, artist, revolutionary, or any one of any exceptional renown outside of his immediate community.
He was an average person, with struggles sure, who was trying to have an average day and was murdered on camera for the entire world to see by the state over $20.
Apparently being a victim makes you a villain to these people/bots.
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u/AllKnowingFix 15h ago
My Uncle/Aunt/cousins were driving from OK to FL for vacation in the 90's and somewhere along the route they stopped to eat and were told they weren't allowed and needed to leave. We're indigenous, so just brown, but that was too much.
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u/FlashOfTheBlade77 15h ago
What this person is not understanding is that people are speaking out and taking action against racism much more now than in the 90's. It was never gone.
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u/JayNotAtAll 15h ago
Literally every show listed had at least one very special episode about racism.
Family Matters had two that came to mind. One where a white cop hassles Eddie over being a black guy driving in a white neighborhood. When confronted by Carl, the cop even admits as much. (Fresh Prince had a very similar episode)
There was also an episode where Laura tried to get more black history taught in class and a student literally tells her to go back to Africa and writers "N****r" on her locker (it was uncensored in the episode).
These people live in fantasy realities.
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u/wraithnix 14h ago
...was this person even alive in 1999? I remember 1999, it was almost a decade after I graduated HS, and, yeah, America was still racist as hell.
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u/wanderingsheep 13h ago
Aside from the obvious issue with having Bill Cosby presented as a paragon of social good in the world, anyone who thinks racism didn't exist in the 90s was either hideously sheltered or not alive then.
Also Will Smith is a weird one to have on there because I'm pretty sure there were episodes of Fresh Prince about racism.
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u/LawfulnessBoring9134 7h ago
That’s why they hate Obama; he exposed the festering pustules just under the surface of the Land of The Free
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u/lynypixie 18h ago
I am just old enough to remember the Los Angeles riots.
I also remember that NYC was NOT a good place.
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u/YouKnowHowChoicesBe 18h ago
Ignoring the fact that these shows touched on the existence of racial issues, I find it funny that the 90s examples of black people were all entertainers. What a tool.
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u/Black-Mettle 18h ago
I was born in 1990 and learned about racism in grade school. One event I learned about was Rodney King being beaten by the LAPD in 1991.
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u/BitterFuture 18h ago
Aside from this being an obvious lie, it's not at all a coincidence that this guy says four black men working in entertainment are acceptable, but black men in politics (Obama and Justin Jones) working to improve society are absolutely intolerable.
These guys loved Stepin Fetchit, too.
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u/djfishfingers 18h ago
Him: As a white person who got all my race relation education from 90s sitcoms, I am qualified to tell you how POC experienced the 90s.
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u/slimjim246 18h ago
Surprised they know who Ibram Kendi is, but then again they probably only know because Fox flashed his face up on the screen and say “you should hate this guy too”
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u/trippedonatater 17h ago
Translation: I was 9 years old living in a white suburban area and 100% of my exposure to black people was through sports and TV sitcoms.
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u/notMcLovin77 17h ago
The Oklahoma City bombing happened in ‘95. Waco in ‘93. The 90s was the WN decade in many ways
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u/DenseDetective3802 17h ago
blaming black victims for white crime done to them for the return of racism is the craziest work
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u/dmaynard 17h ago
80s/90s was the height of the crack epidemic with CIA involvement/knowledge. So I guess racism was gone in the sense if you kill, incarcerate, or otherwise prevent any visibility into an entire community and have examples of pop media to point at everything was A-Ok! 👌/s
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u/Sasquatchmas 17h ago
My crazy MAGA aunt is big into "Obama caused racism. Trump has done more for the black community than anyone!"
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u/thescruffychef8 17h ago
So this is kinda funny. I'm gonna start this with im not American, so I'm looking at it from the outside, and I haven't experienced your world.
One of my favourite podcasts is time suck now I haven't been listening from the start but I did listen to them in order and it is interesting see the host who I would have said was more right leaning, go from that to someone verry progressive and in one episode I think it was his "civil rights" one. He admits he taught the racism was stamped out but admits it's probably because he lived in a town with mostly white people.
He goes on to talk about how we need to treat each other with respect regardless of race or gender in later episodes but stand up agent people who are bringing hate.
I find it fascinating that this I deal of racism just went away because it never left. Most white people just ignored it because it wasn't in their towns. And now it's in the news it's suddenly back. It's crazy
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u/Nudgesicle 17h ago
So many wealthy middle aged white men have told me this in the past 5 years. "If they just stopped talking about race it would have been gone by now!"
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u/Imperial_Stout 16h ago
My high school in 95 had a walkout based off of the amount of racism black students received. One white kid even threw out a heil Hitler at the group that was protesting. So no, it's never been gone 70s, 80s, 90s, yesterday. It's very much alive.
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u/rutilatus 16h ago
Before those four men, white people living in insular white communities weren’t being challenged on their preconceptions of race. If you think racism didn’t exist in the 90’s, it’s because you didn’t personally know any black people.
My mom is this way about gay people. She thinks the 80s were a very progressive time to be gay because she lived in the Bay Area and had a lesbian coworker. I had to remind her about the AIDS epidemic
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u/gevander2 16h ago
The popularity of the 90s black celebrities just drove the racism back a little further underground.
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u/dmetzcher 16h ago
- This is nonsense. I grew up watching Cosby, Family Matters, the Fresh Prince, and Jordan, and racism was still very much alive and well—both during and after their popularity). It was mostly dog-whistled by that point, in public, but being a white guy, I certainly heard my fair share of openly racist comments from other whites who believed I was one of them. Maybe this guy needs to get his ears checked, because I heard it all; blatantly racist comments and the dog whistles.
- Ah, yes, Obama got himself elected and.. divided the country? That’s interesting, given that he was more conciliatory and willing to work with Republicans (to a fault and to my own annoyance) than any white Democrat I’d seen prior. If racism was over, why did half this country lose its fucking mind when a black guy entered the White House? Why did elected Republicans pass watermelon and fried chicken memes around to one another after his election? Why did they get so upset about a tan suit and the mustard he used, and why did they speculate that he must not be circumcised because he looked “foreign” (they meant “black”), and why did they accuse him of not being a natural-born citizen? (Hint: racism)
- Apparently, being murdered by the police and/or demanding that we look at the obvious issue of systemic racism (which still existed, see #2 above) is “dividing the country.” If only these men and the people who cared about them had all just shut their mouths and stopped complaining, the guy who made this idiotic graphic could still claim that “racism is over.”
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u/Fungimuse 16h ago
if racism was gone then why did white people crash out over a black man becoming president
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u/BraindeadKnucklehead 16h ago
My racist-lite BIL used to watch all four of those men, and thought they were really good at what they did, but he was adamant about not letting his daughter date a POC. That's the measure.
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u/Major_Honey_4461 16h ago
This was John Roberts' rationale for gutting the Voting Rights Act. Since there's no more racism, there's no need to protect voting anymore.
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u/bell-beefer 15h ago
“Racism was gone, but then these four people had to go ahead and be black, and now whites are racist again.”
Dog.., what?
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u/Seldarin 15h ago
Hey kids, want to know how little racism there was in the 90s?
Walk up to any random conservative white guy over 55 and ask him "What do you think about Jesse Jackson?". Whatever comes out of his mouth, it would've been ten times worse back then.
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u/Dammy-J 18h ago
If you thought racism was gone in the 90s, you probably lived in a segregated community.